NCHSAA Amendment To Expand Classifications PASSED To Start In 2025

[TD-FridayNight]

NCHSAA amendment to expand classifications has passed, will go into effect in 2025​

NCHSAA amendment to expand classifications has passed, will go into effect in 2025

There will be a 64-school cap on all classes, bringing the NCHSAA to at least seven, starting in the fall of 2025. The amendment needed 324 of the NCHSAA's 432 principals to vote yes. It passed that threshold on Thursday with voting still open for one more day.

www.highschoolot.com

However, in the General Assembly there is currently a bill — SB 636 — that, among other things, would limit the NCHSAA to four classifications and require the NCHSAA to move all charter and parochial schools up one class regardless of their ADM.

 

[beamer24]

NCHSAA amendment to expand classifications has passed, will go into effect in 2025​

NCHSAA amendment to expand classifications has passed, will go into effect in 2025

There will be a 64-school cap on all classes, bringing the NCHSAA to at least seven, starting in the fall of 2025. The amendment needed 324 of the NCHSAA's 432 principals to vote yes. It passed that threshold on Thursday with voting still open for one more day.

www.highschoolot.com

However, in the General Assembly there is currently a bill — SB 636 — that, among other things, would limit the NCHSAA to four classifications and require the NCHSAA to move all charter and parochial schools up one class regardless of their ADM.

I think they amended SB 636 to allow for more classifications.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

I think they amended SB 636 to allow for more classifications.

The last info was 4/6/2023

https://ncleg.gov/Sessions/2023/Bills/Senate/PDF/S636v1.pdf

 

[loveithere]

Be interesting to see how this works itself out, if the General Assembly limits it to 4 classes, this vote was basically for nothing. We will see if they amend that part of the bill.

 

[beamer24]

The last info was 4/6/2023

https://ncleg.gov/Sessions/2023/Bills/Senate/PDF/S636v1.pdf

I guess it's just been talk of changing it. HSOT had an article on it a few days ago.

 

[Deana_King]

NCPreps would have to expand to 7 football boards…lol!!

 

[btango]

Have it from two individuals that know the inner workings there that the classification section can and will be changed. To me that shows they do not know as much as they should if that was put in to start with.

 

[btango]

Thinking there may be one class for charters, parochials, and non football playing schools in 1A/2A. That would result in six “standard” classifications.

 

[BK13T-$]

So the question is are they going ruin 1a, 2A, or both

 

[TD-FridayNight]

NCHSAA amendment to expand classifications has passed, will go into effect in 2025​

NCHSAA amendment to expand classifications has passed, will go into effect in 2025

There will be a 64-school cap on all classes, bringing the NCHSAA to at least seven, starting in the fall of 2025. The amendment needed 324 of the NCHSAA's 432 principals to vote yes. It passed that threshold on Thursday with voting still open for one more day.

www.highschoolot.com

However, in the General Assembly there is currently a bill — SB 636 — that, among other things, would limit the NCHSAA to four classifications and require the NCHSAA to move all charter and parochial schools up one class regardless of their ADM.

LOL, I had to read through this twice before I realized the NCHSAA actually got the votes needed from all schools to get this passed. It is not often they get enough schools to actually vote. As Gomer Pyle would say Surprise Surprise Surprise. At least 324 of the NCHSAA's 432 voted yes.

 

[BK13T-$]

NCHSAA planned this.
They took away the AA/A so more would vote this time. It worked.

 

[Sportsnut17]

Thinking there may be one class for charters, parochials, and non football playing schools in 1A/2A. That would result in six “standard” classifications.

How many non football playing schools are 2A? Or is that under new setup?

 

[Sportsnut17]

So the question is are they going ruin 1a, 2A, or both

My read on what he said was those schools mentioned would be one class, then 6 others started with what we would call 1A football playing. Would probably send some traditional 2A down.

Maybe btango can expound on his thoughts.

 

[BK13T-$]

At the end of the day 1a will be a lot tougher than the aa/a split we did have.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

Video by Nick Stevens and J. Mike Blake

Round Table: Nick Stevens and J. Mike Blake break down NCHSAA realignment news. About a 17 Minute Video Explaining Changes. (Click Link Below)​

Round Table: Nick Stevens and J. Mike Blake break down NCHSAA realignment news

HighSchoolOT's Nick Stevens and J. Mike Blake break down the breaking news out of the NCHSAA as the latest amendment involving realignment and expanded classes starting in 2025-26 has received enough votes from membership to pass.

www.highschoolot.com

 

[Mbulld]

Sounds like somebody is wanting the silver spoons schools in a league of their own so they can finally win a state championship in football

 

[btango]

Sounds like somebody is wanting the silver spoons schools in a league of their own so they can finally win a state championship in football

There are not enough charter and parochial schools playing football to have a football only unless it is an absolutely low level of football excellence playing for that title.

 

[btango]

Thinking there may be one class for charters, parochials, and non football playing schools in 1A/2A. That would result in six “standard” classifications.

This would not be much different than when the four classes were drawn up with football only schools then the non football ones placed except now the charters/parochials would have their own non football playoffs.

 

[Sportsnut17]

This would not be much different than when the four classes were drawn up with football only schools then the non football ones placed except now the charters/parochials would have their own non football playoffs.

Still doesn’t address everyone’s complaint.

WS Prep

 

[Sportsnut17]

The other bill that passed the house today I think overall was a good one. It requires schools to take cash for admission. A lot of older people don’t have smart phones and a lot of kids don’t have bank accounts. I do understand the school stance that it is more accountable and safer than cash.

The part of that bill though that was removed was the requirement for all HS to take the Tar Heel card. Why alienate a few older people for a few more bucks. Currently required to be taken at all NCHSAA events including state championships. That was a good thing NCHSAA did.

 

[ObserveAndReport]

NCHSAA planned this.
They took away the AA/A so more would vote this time. It worked.

Ironic that Andrews lost their best shot at a title in decades last year in order to get something passed that should help schools like them eventually.

 

[btango]

Ironic that Andrews lost their best shot at a title in decades last year in order to get something passed that should help schools like them eventually.

How did Andrew’s sacrifice a title shot?

 

[Mbulld]

There are not enough charter and parochial schools playing football to have a football only unless it is an absolutely low level of football excellence playing for that title.

I would rather keep the silver spoons in 1a than have to compete with all the 2a that are going to move down
If they f——— this up I say we need to drop out and go back to pre 69
The association doesn’t do anything but take all the playoff money anyway, and what do we get. A wooden placard

 

[Mbulld]

How did Andrew’s sacrifice a title shot?

Having to beat teams with triple their enrollment to win it

 

[btango]

I would rather keep the silver spoons in 1a than have to compete with all the 2a that are going to move down
If they f——— this up I say we need to drop out and go back to pre 69
The association doesn’t do anything but take all the playoff money anyway, and what do we get. A wooden placard

With six classifications why include the non football playing schools in that group of a maximum of 384?

Speak to your state rep. That is who is going to have final say.

 

[btango]

Having to beat teams with triple their enrollment to win it

They had no say in the removal of subdividing. They didn’t fall on the sword.

 

[ObserveAndReport]

Yeah I thought twice about the wording and changed it right as you were writing this, looks like. But one can be sacrificed by someone else. And it’s still a sac fly if you meant to hit a home run.

Ultimately, it’s a tiny school that didn’t win a conference game for a decade at one point, was only in the mix occasionally even with subdivisions. Then subdivisions get taken away to force the hand to vote for more classes (to help smaller schools like them.) And it works, except Andrews has a once in a generation team during that time would have been a favorite to win with subdivisions. They lose in the 4th round when the other schools left are all 2-3x their size. People realize 4 classes is unfair and vote to expand (not just because of them, but they would be Exhibit A in my opinion). So if you’re Andrews, would you be happy that classes expanded and will help you in the future? Or upset that what it took to get there meant it was way harder to win a title the year you had your best team ever?

 

[TD-FridayNight]

Video by Nick Stevens and J. Mike Blake

Round Table: Nick Stevens and J. Mike Blake break down NCHSAA realignment news. About a 17 Minute Video Explaining Changes. (Click Link Below)​

Round Table: Nick Stevens and J. Mike Blake break down NCHSAA realignment news

HighSchoolOT's Nick Stevens and J. Mike Blake break down the breaking news out of the NCHSAA as the latest amendment involving realignment and expanded classes starting in 2025-26 has received enough votes from membership to pass.

www.highschoolot.com

I hope everyone got a chance to watch the above video. It is really informative on the realignment.

 

[woodsboy1991]

Senate committee clears way for bill aimed at changing NCHSAA

The education committee in the North Carolina State Senate passed Senate Bill 636 on Monday afternoon. If passed, it would change the way high school sports are managed in North Carolina.

www.highschoolot.com

 

[BK13T-$]

Looks better now.

Hope they take out open enrollment in the other bill.

 

[ocdavis31]

Looks better now.

Hope they take out open enrollment in the other bill.

BK, I understand you wanting to avoid moving charters up for football. But for most sports, they need to be moved up. With seven classes, playoffs will be a problem in football too if they don’t move up.

 

[BK13T-$]

They need football separate

They can't be 7a in some sports.
Like Wrestling. Unless they combine 1a 2a for playoffs.
1a Football will be ran by 2a schools that flip with charters.

 

[ocdavis31]

They need football separate

They can't be 7a in some sports.
Like Wrestling. Unless they combine 1a 2a for playoffs.
1a Football will be ran by 2a schools that flip with charters.

Who knows what they’ll do. But I think it will be 7 for most sports. I really don’t think they’ll carve football out by itself.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

They are talking about the 7A now, trying to iron out what it will cover on the meeting thread.

NCHSAA Spring 2023 Board of Directors Meeting, https://ncpreps.forums.rivals.com/t...board-of-directors-meeting-may-2nd-3rd.51637/​

 

[BK13T-$]

1a wrestling doesn't have enough teams now.

 

[BK13T-$]

Who knows what they’ll do. But I think it will be 7 for most sports. I really don’t think they’ll carve football out by itself.

Sounds like it might be separate.
All sports.

 

[woodsboy1991]

They need football separate

They can't be 7a in some sports.
Like Wrestling. Unless they combine 1a 2a for playoffs.
1a Football will be ran by 2a schools that flip with charters.

They're currently running sports like lacrosse and Spring track and field on a 1A/2A/3A playoff bracket

 

[ocdavis31]

I think there may be some sports that are treated separately. I’d be surprised if football is a stand alone.

 

[BK13T-$]

How will football be 7a.
1a will not have enough teams.
They can't move 1a up because 2a would have more than 64.

 

[loveithere]

How and in what version this bill in the state legislature passes will greatly affect the new by law that has passed. The NCHSAA and the General Assembly are evidently not on speaking terms. If the bill doesnt pass, then I think the new by law works just fine, with one major problem being that there are not enough football playing schools in 1a. If this bill passes that require the charter schools to play in the classification that there surrounding schools are in the charters are going to be spread around throughout classifications, and there will be a greater ADM discrepancy in 1a-which is one good thing the by law change was going to take care of.