W.I.R.? Franklin? The kings of early playoff exits? You're a Franklin poster? If any of you other team posters want a real challenge schedule Franklin at the panther pit. Talk about a team with a little home field advantage. Never seen anything quite like it.
GreenEville Vs. Pisgah
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Damn did that hit a nerve? Calm down. I never downplayed their titles as no big deal.... not sure where that came from. Still stand on the fact Greeneville struggles with teams out of flat-land or lets just say Knoxville. Eliminated by a Knox County team in 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016.
Mountain teams are mountain teams. Ask ANYONE other than a mountain homer. It happens yearly in NC. Teams run the slate in the conference and come playoff time cant understand why they lose by 40 on the road to a flat-land team. Ask Pisgah and Tuscola.... Ask Asheville. It happens EVERY year. Greeneville is 45 miles over the mountain from Main Street Asheville. Genetics are not that different.
In 2016, 83 North Carolina high school seniors went on to play D1 FBS college football. 36 from Tennessee.
What about 2009? 2010? 2011? We lost to eventual state champions and runner ups. In 2010 and 11 we destroyed those same teams
3-0 I believe. Didn't play a Knox team in 2009. So aside from your back to back titles you can't represent much in the argument. Losing to eventual state champions is not the argument. Your success against teams from flat-land is. And for the Tri-City area that represents Knoxville.
We've beat a lot of Knoxville teams in those years as well. Good teams! Greeneville wins state this year. Simple as that
It has nothing to do with Mountain teams and Knoxville teams. You could say Nashville teams and Memphis teams (which is alot more flat than Knoxville) got beat by Knoxville teams (Fulton and Knox Catholic) worse than Greeneville did. We lost by 14 to Knox Catholic in 2015 going in tied in the 4th with Ballard as a QB. Catholic went on after beating is in the quarters to winning the state by 40 points. Besides last year quad 1 in 4a had won 5 straight championships and someone from Quad one has been in the championship game since 2009. With Greeneville, Fulton, and Knox Catholic have been the best 3 programs in 4a. I can promise you Fulton and Catholic respect the Devil's
In my view, a "mountain team" is a team who runs through the other mountain teams and then gets rolled by "flat land" teams. Or as you say, "lose by 40 on the road to a flat-land team." Greeneville might geographically be in the mountains, but Greeneville is elite. And you will have to go back a long way to find where they got beat by 40. Whether it is Knoxville, Nashville, Chattanooga or Memphis, teams know they are in for a 4-quarter game that will be down to the wire when they play Greeneville. And Greeneville has beat numerous teams from each of those "flat-land" cities in the last 10 years.
I think your characterization that "Greeneville struggles with teams out of flat land or Knoxville" is inaccurate. Here are some of the wins: Knox Catholic 2015, Knox Central 2015, Chattanooga Red Bank 2009, Chattanooga Brainerd 2009, Memphis Trezevant (state championship 60-12 ) 2010, Knox Fulton 2012 and 2013, Nashville Maplewood 2011.
Unless Greeneville wins the state championship every year, they have to lose to somebody- and that is going to be a team from Knoxville deep in the playoffs. If you think Greeneville is one of those "mountain teams" that doesn't have the athletes to play with the teams from the big cities, you are in for a big surprise tomorrow night. They have the athletes and the guys up front to play any brand of football that they need to.
He's not a Pisgah fan my man. He will be watching his South Point team rolling to another victory.
2014 they lost 42-0 to Alcoa. They beat Central in 2015; Catholic eliminated them 35-21. Four out of last five years they have been eliminated from a team out of Knoxville.
Look, I'm not downing them. I just think they fit the trend. I also think they will name the score tomorrow night against Pisgah. Yall have a solid program but I think history shows excluding the anomaly years of 2010-2011 that you struggle with teams that arent from the hills.
No idea how you we "struggle" when in fact we have beaten those teams in the past as well. If you believe greeneville is of that trend then you are crazy. Come watch greeneville play the rest of the year and I guarantee you won't say that. What about Anderson county last year? 55-9 we won. Btw they are undefeated this year. Your blind man
As well we had a home and home with alcoa in 2011 and 2012 not 2014.
Beat them 42-21 in 11 and lost 42-0 in 12. Not many teams can say they beat alcoa my friend. A year in which we lost a lot of talent after back2back titles
Beat them 42-21 in 11 and lost 42-0 in 12. Not many teams can say they beat alcoa my friend. A year in which we lost a lot of talent after back2back titles
Classic message board response- ignore the facts and statements in the post I made and blindly adhere to your original view, despite significant evidence showing the view isn't accurate. I love good debate, but can't really debate someone who refuses to acknowledge or address facts that might demonstrate they are wrong. But you, of course, are entitled to your opinion. I would be interested in hearing your explanation of how Greeneville is still a mountain team when it runs the table this year.
Numbers don't lie.....Four out of the last five years Greeneville has been eliminated by a team from Knoxville. Damn yall are sensitive. We have been saying this about our mountains teams for years. They just take it..... BTW, it's you're.
I was just providing facts for you partner who said I would have to go way back in history to find a time when Greeneville was beat by 40. Five years.....
Dude you can't even tell me who eliminated you 2 years ago. Claimed you beat Catholic in 2015. False. You also claim yall beat Fulton in 2012 & 2013; False. You lost 42-14 in 2012 and 40-20 in 2013. You also told me to dig history as to when you were thumped by 40. It was in this decade; 2012. I at least thought I would make it 20 years or so.
Yall are a bunch of damn pansies. Ya'll act like you are Maryville or something.
When you want to argue with facts let me know.
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There are a few things to unpack here- not because it will cause you to alter your opinion because you are the typical message board poster who blindly adheres to their pre-existing views despite facts showing their views are not accurate- but because I think it is a disservice to others who might be reading this to let your ignorant statements go unaddressed.
The premise of your "mountain team" stereotype is that mountain teams can't hang with the teams from the "flat-land" as you call it. Greeneville has shown it can certainly hang with these teams and has beaten them on a regular basis.So Greeneville does not fit into your mountain team view.
Secondly, if we take your argument to its logical end, Greeneville has to win the state championship every year before it can say it never loses to teams from Knoxville. The winner of that 3rd round game wins the state championship every year. Nobody on here claimed Greeneville never loses to Knoxville teams. These folks have simply proven that Greeneville has beaten those teams and teams from all over the state many times.
If you look at your original post you said these mountain teams get the hell beat out of them "yearly" when they play these flat-land teams. That does not happen to Greeneville. If they lose, it is a close game. So there is another hole in your mountain team argument.
Watch what i do here: I was incorrect about Greeneville never getting beat by 40. See that? I acknowledged that i was wrong. I failed to remember the one outlier here. Greeneville did actually get beat by 42 to the team that had won 10 out of the last 11 state championships at the time (I am sure you will conveniently disregard Greeneville beating them the next year).
Oh- and no Greeneville does not think it is Maryville. But Greeneville can go to Maryville right now and that will be a very close game, and the winner would be a toss up. And thus, that would be another hole in your mountain team argument.
You talk fact and opinion but cant give facts related to the argument. Greeneville beating Alcoa the next year doesnt have anything to do with being beat by 40 the previous year. I simply supplied the facts you couldn't. I've given you facts. You tried and they were wrong.
Dang that's all you got? I thought for certain you would come with more than that. I think these previous posts speak for themselves, and I think anyone with any football sense can evaluate what we each have said and come to their own conclusions.
I'm glad you see it that way too. I feel confident the facts I presented against your fallacies tell the tale. BTW... my original post says nothing about teams "getting the hell" beat out of them yearly.
Please please please talk to your coach about scheduling Greeneville next season.
This has nothing to do with my team, although, we would welcome the challenge. We hold our own in these parts.
Your "mountain team" argument is insulting. That might be how it is on your side of the mountain but not ours. There is a reason Greeneville is the only undisputed #1 team out of all the classifications (don't get that confided with #1 team between all the classifications). And those 3 Knoxville teams that beast us are now 5A teams and one was a private school playing plublic schools
You are insulted by facts. You guys act like i said Greeneville is the cesspool of TN football. I said you struggle with Knox County schools. Nothing more. Well maybe Sullivan South too....
Well being from Charlotte, your squad certainly would classify as a flat-land team. And with Greeneville being a mountain team, we would really struggle against a team like yours according to your argument. Let's just let tomorrow night play out, and maybe the folks from Pisgah can chime in about whether Greeneville could hang with the South Point Red Raiders. I know firsthand that Charlotte football is very good; there is no denying that.
Not my thread, not the subject matter, but wait till you see what happens at your place in a few weeks without "our" refs. You won't be able to blame that loss on a mythical refereeing conspiracy.
As far as scheduling homeschool teams, Franklin has tried to do better. Even tried to schedule Shelby. Turns out people don't like driving two hours or over Cowee Mountain.
Early exits? We have Parkwood, you have St. Stephens. At least our embarrassing first round loss played into the semis.
Good luck with Greeneville. Sounds like you'll get an early start on the ride home.
247 sports shows a 104 recruits for TN and 125 recruits for NC for 2016. 2017 shows 139 recruits for TN and 123 recruits for NC. That is a 2 star to a 5 star recruit. So far for 2018 it's 109 recruits in TN and 92 recruits in NC so far. Some kids my get noticed as the year goes.
Get your facts right..hayesville lost and if I'm not mistaken FRANKLIN has won multiple conference CHAMPIONSHIPS and had several perfect regular seasons and has a winning record against them bears since they joined same league and give the schedule a rest..up til this year your non conf schedule defined cup cake city..as for this year we will roll into memorial stadium 9-0 and DAMN sure leave 10-0 and lol we've actually rolled into South point and won before..best of luck tom night..i usually pull for "mountain" teams but the arrogance of mill town is quite overwhelming..
If you can actually read go back and check total wins and playoff wins the last 11 years and see who's ahead FRANKLIN or smoky bear
