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CVAC 2023 - Week 9

Lincolnton said:
West Caldwell at West Lincoln: If I could repeat something said last year, to anyone who is a West Caldwell Warrior, player of devoted fan, It is a painful experience to lose, and I couldn't imagine anyone getting used to it. So, for what little it's worth, you have my respect and congratulations for sticking with your team. Being loyal is a special characteristic. WL by 35.

Newton-Conover at Bandys: Both, I believe are good teams. Feel like the Trojans might have a little better running game to go along with the pass. Bandys by 6.

East Burke at Lincolnton: The Cavaliers almost got us, this past season. They had us down in the first quarter 10-0, and led 10-7 at the half. At last years game in Icard while I was talking with Burkeforreal, Lincolnton scored pretty late, think 4 minutes left, to take a 14-10 lead . At that point I told him I was concerned we would let EB come right back and score, which they did, and had the lead until the 2 minute mark when we were able to score on a pass, then intercept them to win. They held us to 95 yards rushing. Hope we can do better. I feel like our passing game and running game have improved, some, from a year ago, and if we don't get too down in the score I feel like we can win. Lincolnton by 10.

Maiden at Bunker Hill: This is Flyrod's game of the week, and rightfully so. I'd think the Bears might tell themselves, "We'll take each game separately, and a week at a time, and handle each team as we get to them", so far, they have; but still, In this conference the Blue Devils wear a target and it would be special for any of us to beat them... Maiden, reminds me of the Green Bay Packers from the middle 1960's, they seem to find a way to win, but this time it's really going to be hard. BH has a solid running and passing game with the people on the line to take care of business. I believe the Devils will be ready as will the Bears. The crowd might exceed the BH-West Lincoln game and should be a great atmosphere. With all things considered, I'll have to pick the Bears by 6... Just out of curiosity, should Maiden win, you reckon AMD will post a message asking "Who runs this valley"? Frankly, I don't think he could resist it, and if the Devils manage to pull it off, He's earned it.

Postscript: Favored teams are in bold.

Postscript: In the Maiden-Bunker Hill prediction, I'd mentioned that Maiden reminded me of the Green Bay Packers of the mid-1960's in finding a way to win. The game I had in mind was the Packers game against the Dallas Cowboys which was played on Sunday December 31st, 1967 at Lambeau Field in Green Bay. It was informally called the Ice Bowl. The Temperature range during the game was between -12 and -14 degrees, with a with a wind chill of -30 because of high winds. It was and still is the coldest NFL game on record.
with 16 seconds remaining from inside the one yard line, no time outs, and the Cowboys leading 17-14, quarterback Bart Starr kept the ball going straight ahead behind Guard, Jerry Kramer and Center, Ken Bowman who wedge blocked Dallas defensive tackle Jethro Pugh (Pugh was from Windsor, NC in Bertie County, and played college ball at Elizabeth City State) to enable Starr to fall over the goal line for the score. This gave Green Bay the NFL Championship who would go on to defeat the AFL Champs Oakland Raiders.
*In spite of the very cold weather, attendance was over 50,000. One fan died from exposure, and several players, including Starr, suffered frost bite. Remember watching it on Channel 3 Charlotte (CBS), A long time
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I think they are not many West Caldwell fans on here or they don’t wish to voice their opinions. It’s a sad thing what’s going on at West Caldwell with one of the worst coaches they have ever had. I don’t think the administration at West cares about the football program and they are talent at West. They need a coach that can build a program. For this West Caldwell fan I can only hope and pray that this is Monte Simmons last year.
 
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warrior56592 said:
I think they are not many West Caldwell fans on here or they don’t wish to voice their opinions. It’s a sad thing what’s going on at West Caldwell with one of the worst coaches they have ever had. I don’t think the administration at West cares about the football program and they are talent at West. They need a coach that can build a program. For this West Caldwell fan I can only hope and pray that this is Monte Simmons last year.
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First west fan we have seen on here
 
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amaidendevil said:
Something like this maybe 🤔 this decision was very difficult I had many sleepless nights over this choice. But there is this feller who lives in Lincolnton who has always been a closed blue devil, but it's not his fault living in wolf country can be dangerous and they wouldn't be very tolerant of his true passion and love of blue 💙. But this great gentleman is in declining health with his advanced age. And he asked me to grant an elderly man's last wish since his time is near and possibly not being around for the next season. He asked to see his secret blue devils to be granted the overall seed from the cvac so he can see them locally as long as possible. So as a God loving, respectful southern gentleman I decided to honor his wish after many sleepless and soul searching nights. 😂😂😂😂 I think that's the way I would angle it. 😂
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Cheerduck, they talked about the rooms being like tiny houses. Wonder just how tiny they are. Then they said a controlled environment. Just how much control is there. Then birds chirping and piping in smells ? WHAT ? Thank you my friend but I'll just stay in the wild.

AMD, that would do it, alright. Every way I turned would be a dead end street. Our people, here, are very tolerant, but I don't think they'd tolerate a sheep in wolves clothing. More than likely, I'm in trouble for that even being posted. If I tell someone here I'm going to the game this week, and they respond with "Why don't you go pull for your Blue Devils", I'll know that I'm washed up... Oh, and about my cousin up the street, by the time she gets through with this it'll be something like "That poor man in Maiden said he hated to tell on him but that he's a closet devil worshipper" (pronounced warshupper by her) and that she knew something was bad, bad wrong the whole time, so we need to get the law down here and cart his @$$ on over there.:oops:
 
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BlueSchool18 said:
Bandys gets back on track this week vs nc in what will be a very close contest.
Lincolnton will have their way with eb as reality sets in for the cavs.
West Lincoln by a lot at home vs wc

The game of the week will be at Bunker Hill! BIG BLUE finally puts it all together.
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I’m not so sure bout the having their way statement. Yes I’m not counting on the Cavs winning, not at all but it’s gonna be a closer game than you think if they play alittle more flawless not necessarily perfect. If you didn’t see the Bunker Hill game then you missed a show. Don’t let the 28-6 score fool ya. All respect to BH as they ARE in my book the best CVAC team and will take the conf crown. I’m not gonna make excuses either just telling you what happened with us against the BEST CVAC team:

We were 5 yards or less of paydirt Twice, but failed. Got a pick 6 on them and it was called back for a block in back. Recovered an unexpected onside kick against them. Made some good defensive stops. The 103 104ish yard run they made when their RB was tackled in the endzone that was what we thought was about to be a safety, the dude showed off his tallent shook the tackle off and made that busted play a touchdown. Defense was caught off guard and in one area mostly after he shook that safety tackle so it made it easier for him to run around and down the sideline. Still a showcase of raw tallent by that young man.

3 oughta been scores right there. Almost doesn’t count, BH was good and their D held their own. And bare in mind ALL of this was without 5 or 6 good players that are injured that would either start or get good playing time hypothetically speaking if they were in a Maiden, Bandys, BH, NC or a WL uniform.

Depends on which Cav team shows up, if they play like they did against Draughn for 2 quarters or Bandys the 1st 2 quarters yeah they WILL “have their way”. If they play like they did against the Hill, it’s gonna be a good game. They’ll be earning that win. Even Lincolnton the poster would back me up on that one and he’s a faithful fan of the Wolves and an all around good man. Just saying.
 
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Lincolnton said:
Well, actually, there is still a process in the very rare event of a tie in the RPI, and this would only apply to the CVAC... What they would do is send a personal car with a police escort to pick up AMD...First they ask him to name any fine, high dollar food he would like, which would be a Half & Half, then take him to a neutral location like Newton and ask him to give careful consideration to who the CVAC conference champ should be... The decision would be made in a relatively short period of time, can you say nanosecond (one billionth of a second, that's about ten minutes ago) before Maiden would be declared conference champs...They would explain to him that negative publicity was pouring in from all across the state denouncing him and this process for being completely unfair, to which he would respond "So".
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I found this on NCHSAA concerning tie breaker for RPI which I didn’t know.


What happens if two (2) teams are tied in the final RPI standings?
There is a tiebreaker for this unlikely scenario.
It is as follows:

Head-to-head results between the tied teams
Overall Winning percentage
Opponents’ winning percentage
Opponents’ opponents winning percentage
Highest-rated win (according to the final RPI standings)
Next-highest rated win (exhaust all possibilities)
Draw

Who knew?
 
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Maiden Creek said:
I found this on NCHSAA concerning tie breaker for RPI which I didn’t know.


What happens if two (2) teams are tied in the final RPI standings?
There is a tiebreaker for this unlikely scenario.
It is as follows:

Head-to-head results between the tied teams
Overall Winning percentage
Opponents’ winning percentage
Opponents’ opponents winning percentage
Highest-rated win (according to the final RPI standings)
Next-highest rated win (exhaust all possibilities)
Draw

Who knew?
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Interesting. I can't imagine a tie-breaker getting past the third stage. What are the odds of two teams having the exact same OWP?
 
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Maiden Creek said:
I found this on NCHSAA concerning tie breaker for RPI which I didn’t know.


What happens if two (2) teams are tied in the final RPI standings?
There is a tiebreaker for this unlikely scenario.
It is as follows:

Head-to-head results between the tied teams
Overall Winning percentage
Opponents’ winning percentage
Opponents’ opponents winning percentage
Highest-rated win (according to the final RPI standings)
Next-highest rated win (exhaust all possibilities)
Draw

Who knew?
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Simple enough!
 
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Lincolnton said:
Question for anyone: Not that it's likely, but I do think it's possible, if Maiden would defeat Bunker Hill, then Maiden, Bunker Hill and West Lincoln would go on to win their remaining games in regular season, creating a three way tie, how would this be resolved (How would the tie be broken) ? In the CVAC, this is the only possible scenario I could think of for a three-way-tie that couldn't be resolved by head-to-head wins.

Tried to read it in the NCHSAA rules but my eyes weren't up to it, so forgive me for taking the lazy way out (Asking somebody). At one time a three way tie was resolved by a vote of conference coaches, e.g. in 1979, Statesville beat Lincolnton, Newton-Conover beat Statesville and Lincolnton beat Newton-Conover, creating a three way tie. Seems like the name of that conference was the Western Piedmont. All conference coaches voted and Newton-Conover got the most.
Not sure if particulars like non-conference records or yards rushing and points allowed head to head, or what if any criteria they used, so if somebody could school me on how this is resolved in the modern era, I'd appreciate it.
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In 2012 Newton, Maiden, and South Iredell ended in. 3-way tie. They drew straws and Maiden got the #1 seed from the conference. Newton was 2 and South was 3. South had to go on the road in the 2nd round but they still ended up winning the State Championship that year.
 
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Let's go into the way back machine early '90s I believe old sd7 conference. Three-way tire for first between maiden and Newton Conover and bandy's. Now back then only two teams made the playoffs from the conferences. And if my memory serves correctly they drew numbers out of a hat and Maiden and I believe bandy's got into the playoffs that year and Newton Conover had to stay home
 
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So, I was looking at the pick-em standings and noticed AMD is in the lead. (Nice job so far) I can only assume he will pick with his heart and not his head this week and pick Maiden. So, eb1977may have at least a 1 game lead next week. Good for him.
 
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amaidendevil said:
Let's go into the way back machine early '90s I believe old sd7 conference. Three-way tire for first between maiden and Newton Conover and bandy's. Now back then only two teams made the playoffs from the conferences. And if my memory serves correctly they drew numbers out of a hat and Maiden and I believe bandy's got into the playoffs that year and Newton Conover had to stay home
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The SD-7 when I was in school was:
Hibriten, West Caldwell, Statesville, Newton, Bandys, West Iredell and Bunker Hill. Making the playoffs was a big deal back then.
 
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just been a bad year for injuries everybody makes excuses. This season could have been our best chance to make play offs but not to be. you guys better do good for the conference play offs!!You have to admit being down 6 starters we gave you guys a good game except for two big mess up's
 
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Hopefully Maiden can get the ball to Raheem more than once this week. Kinda blew my mind they never really tried to get him going against Bandys. I figure when your playing against a defense that's not very fast you would want to get the ball in the hands of your faster players.
 
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TunnelSmoke said:
Hopefully Maiden can get the ball to Raheem more than once this week. Kinda blew my mind they never really tried to get him going against Bandys. I figure when your playing against a defense that's not very fast you would want to get the ball in the hands of your faster players.
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Behind the scenes reasons for that but we play through it and win.
 
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I anticipate a hard fought game that probably will be real close. Also I got a couple more friends that’s joining with me in this game. Looking forward to the game. Any idea about how many fans with be at the game.
 
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West Lincoln rolls.

East Burke will scare the bejeezers out of those Wolves. Ole Lincolnton will walk a rut in the ground pacing about nervously chewing his finger nails as the Wolves pull it out with seconds to spare!😂
No one in this conference wants to play the Cavaliers. The Wolves will gut it out and win a very close game.

I’m taking the Red Devils. Yep! This is going to be a great game. I’m simply using comparison games to reach this decision….especially how each team fared against Lincolnton. Truly…Bandys vs Newton is a tossup game and I can see it going either way. Good luck to both teams.

Quite frankly…Lincolnton-East Burke, Bandys-Newton, and Bunker Hill-Maiden are all “Games of the Week” in my opinion.

It’s time once again to play those Bears. Bunker Hill is the favorite and deservedly so. The Bears have all the weapons to win this game and the conference with a balanced offense and stingy defense and tons of experienced players and a good coach. In saying that…please believe that Maiden has the pieces to compete with Bunker Hill and with a little luck they can win this game. I’m feeling lucky😂 Maiden is gonna get it done…again. Wait and see.

Boom Devils! Baby!

CVAC! Good luck! Fellers. I can’t wait!
 
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Maiden Creek said:
West Lincoln rolls.

East Burke will scare the bejeezers out of those Wolves. Ole Lincolnton will walk a rut in the ground pacing about nervously chewing his finger nails as the Wolves pull it out with seconds to spare!😂
No one in this conference wants to play the Cavaliers. The Wolves will gut it out and win a very close game.

I’m taking the Red Devils. Yep! This is going to be a great game. I’m simply using comparison games to reach this decision….especially how each team fared against Lincolnton. Truly…Bandys vs Newton is a tossup game and I can see it going either way. Good luck to both teams.

Quite frankly…Lincolnton-East Burke, Bandys-Newton, and Bunker Hill-Maiden are all “Games of the Week” in my opinion.

It’s time once again to play those Bears. Bunker Hill is the favorite and deservedly so. The Bears have all the weapons to win this game and the conference with a balanced offense and stingy defense and tons of experienced players and a good coach. In saying that…please believe that Maiden has the pieces to compete with Bunker Hill and with a little luck they can win this game. I’m feeling lucky😂 Maiden is gonna get it done…again. Wait and see.

Boom Devils! Baby!

CVAC! Good luck! Fellers. I can’t wait!
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I don’t think anyone in this conference fears East Burke
 
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West Lincoln with a bye week this week.
Lincolnton over east Burke at this point I'm about ready to pick west Caldwell over East Burke 😂😂..
Newton and bandy's I have a feeling this turns out to be the game we thought maiden and bandy's would have been. Honestly neither play defense so could be 106-100 😂😂 honestly a toss up game. Gonna take bandy's.
Maiden no other comments just taking care of business....
 
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amaidendevil said:
West Lincoln with a bye week this week.
Lincolnton over east Burke at this point I'm about ready to pick west Caldwell over East Burke 😂😂..
Newton and bandy's I have a feeling this turns out to be the game we thought maiden and bandy's would have been. Honestly neither play defense so could be 106-100 😂😂 honestly a toss up game. Gonna take bandy's.
Maiden no other comments just taking care of business....
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Made some arrangements we are not allowing AMD into the game unless he buys $100 worth of 50/50 tickets
 
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