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Shelby vs RH South Pointe

Some of you guys are making these guys out to be Alabama. Very good squad, well coached with a handful of very good athletes. 2 or 3 elite level kids. Last year a below avg Mallard Creek team lost by 11 and had 160 yards in penalties. Vance and Butler losses were by 14 and 17 points.

I think on the whole SC football is better than NC football but the margin is small and in many cases its because in places like Rock Hill the emphasis and money spent on it is much higher. I personally think Cleveland County mirrors that level of intensity.

Lets stop thinking SC teams cant be beat. Preseason #5 Gaffney got handled by Harding 2 weeks ago. Myrtle Beach got beat and Marlboro basically backed out of playing Scotland. Byrnes got beat last year, RH SP has been beaten by Vance, RH Northwestern by Charlotte Catholic, Dillon 4 time state title winner has been beaten twice. All of this over the past 4 years. Frankly its hard to get them to come to NC. When they do they usually get beat.

Shelby doesnt need to give any quarter here. My guess is its a whale of a game. Probably 21-14 type of ballgame.
From what I hear this is their best team and this years Shelby team is way down offensively from the last few.I believe they have like 5 or 6 of the top 50 players in SC.
 
From what I hear this is their best team and this years Shelby team is way down offensively from the last few.I believe they have like 5 or 6 of the top 50 players in SC.

Most talented. Probably. Best team...way to early to tell. You could make a serious argument that Shelby has played a tougher schedule. RH NW, Rock Hill,Nations Ford have won 4 games between the 3 of them. I think Buford is really good but they haven't played anyone either so I am not sure. I don't judge teams on 4 and 5 star athletes. Seen that upfront and personal. ELi Adams basically bought himself a full ride scholarship on his performance against the 4 star Olineman at Mallard Creek last year...............don't buy the hype.

By the way..preseason I read multiple Shelby guys telling me this was their " best team ever". 4 weeks later they are " way down". Its hard to know until you play top level competition and get smacked in the face a bit. 2 most talented MAllard Creek teams didn't win anything. Last years MC team had 3 of the best 5 Olineman in NC based on Rivals and Scout. They couldn't run the ball against anyone who was decent.

Need to play the game and then evaluate.
 
It kind of tickled me a little that the tone of the thread seemed like Shelby was going on some kind of death march or suicide mission. I put in the pic in my previous post as humor of it all.
 
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Nah, bro. Honestly, I've become discouraged. Our offense is just too bad, I was in denial for a game or two, but these past two weeks have convinced me, otherwise. I believe in our defense, but they can't be out there on the field too much, or they will wear down. We saw them on the field too much last night vs KM. Let's hope the coaches come up with a brilliant game plan, and we're able to compete. This game won't break us, though, The Drive For Five will continue.
We need to get the ball in Deuce's hands.
 
Some of you guys are making these guys out to be Alabama. Very good squad, well coached with a handful of very good athletes. 2 or 3 elite level kids. Last year a below avg Mallard Creek team lost by 11 and had 160 yards in penalties. Vance and Butler losses were by 14 and 17 points.

I think on the whole SC football is better than NC football but the margin is small and in many cases its because in places like Rock Hill the emphasis and money spent on it is much higher. I personally think Cleveland County mirrors that level of intensity.

Lets stop thinking SC teams cant be beat. Preseason #5 Gaffney got handled by Harding 2 weeks ago. Myrtle Beach got beat and Marlboro basically backed out of playing Scotland. Byrnes got beat last year, RH SP has been beaten by Vance, RH Northwestern by Charlotte Catholic, Dillon 4 time state title winner has been beaten twice. All of this over the past 4 years. Frankly its hard to get them to come to NC. When they do they usually get beat.

Shelby doesnt need to give any quarter here. My guess is its a whale of a game. Probably 21-14 type of ballgame.
Byrnes got beat by everyone last year! South pointe lost to Vance the year they took 3 losses in one season! Dillon is a small 3a used to be 2a and held there own against Mallard Creek 7-0 with a touchdown called back. South pointe had two called back against Mallard Creek. Gaffeny is no good this year nethier is northwestern! Point I’m trying to make is we aren’t world beaters but to nit pick your facts!
 
This is one of the best Shelby defenses ever. We have to spy Kendrick all night or he will run all over us. Our defense will keep us in this game.

Our offense is stale. Our oline is struggling to block and it seems as though our qb is fearful to let it fly. We have some good receivers but they never get a chance to show out. Interceptions happen...it's part of the game. Darquez used to throw it all the time....he'd throw a pick then turn around and throw 2 tds. With the spread offense, it is based on a lot of passing. The law of averages says with a lot of passes, occasionally there will be some ints...even some sacks. It's ok....we certainly wouldn't be upset with the occasional pick....as mentioned earlier, we have a stellar defense. If we can't pass it and just run, the opposing defense knows exactly what to key on. Throwing it around keeps the defense honest and opens up the running game. We almost need to take a page from the Crest playbook.....just throw it up and let our receivers go after it. The 30+ yard pass plays aren't happening right now....they probably will against 2A schools but not against the comp we have been playing....qb just doesn't have enough time for the the receivers to get down field. 2 step drop and 5-15 yard passes is where it's at. Great field general! Can't wait to see Friday night!

This is a great group of seniors and we are going to miss these guys when they are gone. They have been a lot of fun to watch.

It would be great to win this game but as B&G said, the real games are in November and December. I see a successful drive for 5 coming up and that is where it counts. If we can get a little bit of offensive momentum then we have a chance in this one. If not our defense will exhaust and SP will have their way late in the game.

Speaking of our schedule vs RHSP...
Freedom 3-1 (only loss to us)
AC Reynolds 4-1 (only loss to us, averaging 50 points a game, technically didn't score on us)
Burns (we won't count this one)
Crest 2-2 (losses to us and defending undefeated 3A champ South Point by 8 points just beat undefeated 3AA state champ Weddington)
Kings Mountain 3-1 (only loss to us)

I believe all 4 will make deep playoff runs with the ability to make it to some 'ship games!

Can't wait until Friday.
 
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This is one of the best Shelby defenses ever. We have to spy Kendrick all night or he will run all over us. Our defense will keep us in this game.

Our offense is stale. Our oline is struggling to block and it seems as though our qb is fearful to let it fly. We have some good receivers but they never get a chance to show out. Interceptions happen...it's part of the game. Darquez used to throw it all the time....he'd throw a pick then turn around and throw 2 tds. With the spread offense, it is based on a lot of passing. The law of averages says with a lot of passes, occasionally there will be some ints...even some sacks. It's ok....we certainly wouldn't be upset with the occasional pick....as mentioned earlier, we have a stellar defense. If we can't pass it and just run, the opposing defense knows exactly what to key on. Throwing it around keeps the defense honest and opens up the running game. We almost need to take a page from the Crest playbook.....just throw it up and let our receivers go after it. The 30+ yard pass plays aren't happening right now....they probably will against 2A schools but not against the comp we have been playing....qb just doesn't have enough time for the the receivers to get down field. 2 step drop and 5-15 yard passes is where it's at. Great field general! Can't wait to see Friday night!

This is a great group of seniors and we are going to miss these guys when they are gone. They have been a lot of fun to watch.

It would be great to win this game but as B&G said, the real games are in November and December. I see a successful drive for 5 coming up and that is where it counts. If we can get a little bit of offensive momentum then we have a chance in this one. If not our defense will exhaust and SP will have their way late in the game.

Speaking of our schedule vs RHSP...
Freedom 3-1 (only loss to us)
AC Reynolds 4-1 (only loss to us, averaging 50 points a game, technically didn't score on us)
Burns (we won't count this one)
Crest 2-2 (losses to us and defending undefeated 3A champ South Point by 8 points just beat undefeated 3AA state champ Weddington)
Kings Mountain 3-1 (only loss to us)

I believe all 4 will make deep playoff runs with the ability to make it to some 'ship games!

Can't wait until Friday.
Darquez was surrounded by some of the best talent ever at Shelby, two bonafied D1 receivers in Wright and Borders, a D1utility player in Calvin Camp, and 4 out of 5 offensive linemen who went on to play college ball. I told the current quarterback who was a sophomore then that Lee may have had to do a two year bid behind RJ, but he and RJ both would envy the talent Darquez inherited. Darquez was a gunslinger, no doubt, great arm, but he moved and ran like he had a tv on his back, he would get killed in this current offense.

Like I said in another thread, I certainly don't absolve #12 from anything, he does hold onto the ball longer than he should at times, and is too petrified to make mistakes, but who is getting any separation out there at receiver? Malik threw for over 3500 yards last season, he had the greatest receiver ever in Borders, a burner who consistently clocked 4.4, and commanded so much attention, it freed up the other receivers. Combine that with a senior laden line, a strong unit, one of the strengths of that team, and that's a recipe for a strong offense. You're entitled to your opinion, though, and so am I
 
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Darquez was surrounded by some of the best talent ever at Shelby, two bonafied receivers in Wright and Borders, a D1utility player in Calvin Camp, and 4 out of 5 offensive line who went on to play college ball. I told the current quarterback who was a sophomore then that Lee may had to do two year bud behind RJ, but both he and RJ both would envy the talent he inherited. Darquez was a gunslinger, no doubt, great arm, but he moved and ran like he had a tv on his back, he would get killed in this current offense.

Like I said in another thread, I certainly don't absolve #12 from anything, he does hold onto the ball longer than he should at times, and is too petrified to make mistakes, but who is getting any separation out there at receiver? Malik threw for over 3500 yards last season, he had the greatest receiver ever in Borders, a burner who consistently clocked 4.4, and commanded so much attention, it freed up the other receivers. Combine that with a senior laden line, a strong unit, one of the strengths of that team, and that's a recipe for a strong offense. You're entitled to your opinion, though, and so am I

Completely agree with you! We are lacking a threat like Borders or Wright and our line play isn't what is was the last couple years. They will do well against 2A but this non-conference schedule is brutal. I am proud of our boys for sitting 5-0 right now. We have had some great team efforts against some really good 3A teams. I agree that Darquez had "a tv on his back" when it came to running....lol...and with this line would struggle. He was a great passer. Tell #12...that he is the man! and it is OK to make mistakes. The "trio" love him no matter what! We are gonna miss him next year. He is a great leader! Can't wait to watch them in action Friday on that stage. Just a regular game, and they suit up just like we do.
 
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Listen, 12 has been the difference in all the close games this year. Without that leadership and making the big plays at the right times, we could have lost all of them. When it is said and done, he will be mentioned as one of the top few to ever play the position at Shelby.

As for my uninformed opinion of what should happen given our obvious problems...shorter passes, more designed runs for 12, and anything other little flair to free up some room for 14.

I don't expect us to win Friday. I do expect us to be playing in December.
 
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Listen, 12 has been the difference in all the close games this year. Without that leadership and making the big plays at the right times, we could have lost all of them. When it is said and done, he will be mentioned as one of the top few to ever play the position at Shelby.

As for my uninformed opinion of what should happen given our obvious problems...shorter passes, more designed runs for 12, and anything other little flair to free up some room for 14.

I don't expect us to win Friday. I do expect us to be playing in December.
Man, the shorter routes, we need them badly. I envied KM's playbook.
 
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Me too. I don't know what happened. One game we were mixing in sideline passes with 14 running and it was beautiful. Then we just stopped. I know those weren't going for big yardage, but they spread the field so our running game had more room.
 
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I agree 12 has been one to win a number of games for us,
I also agree we just need short routes, maybe cross patterns, most time when u have a bad line, you wanna unload the ball to compensate for it.
Our receivers run 20-30 yards before turning around.
11 better fit at TE. IMO. I also like our 2 nack set, seems harder for most teams to stop it.
32- Scott has looked pretty good out of backfield too.
Im sure our coaches are working hard to get us ready.
Hope we keep it close
 
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Byrnes got beat by everyone last year! South pointe lost to Vance the year they took 3 losses in one season! Dillon is a small 3a used to be 2a and held there own against Mallard Creek 7-0 with a touchdown called back. South pointe had two called back against Mallard Creek. Gaffeny is no good this year nethier is northwestern! Point I’m trying to make is we aren’t world beaters but to nit pick your facts!

LOL.. This team had 3 losses, this team had a TD called back, this team is no good..........You dont get to pick what team in what year gets to play when. My facts are 100% accurate. Year in and year out there are SC teams that beat NC teams and there are SC teams that lose. You SC guys want to make it sound like you whip NC schools all the time......FAKE NEWS!!
 
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This is one of the best Shelby defenses ever. We have to spy Kendrick all night or he will run all over us. Our defense will keep us in this game.

Our offense is stale. Our oline is struggling to block and it seems as though our qb is fearful to let it fly. We have some good receivers but they never get a chance to show out. Interceptions happen...it's part of the game. Darquez used to throw it all the time....he'd throw a pick then turn around and throw 2 tds. With the spread offense, it is based on a lot of passing. The law of averages says with a lot of passes, occasionally there will be some ints...even some sacks. It's ok....we certainly wouldn't be upset with the occasional pick....as mentioned earlier, we have a stellar defense. If we can't pass it and just run, the opposing defense knows exactly what to key on. Throwing it around keeps the defense honest and opens up the running game. We almost need to take a page from the Crest playbook.....just throw it up and let our receivers go after it. The 30+ yard pass plays aren't happening right now....they probably will against 2A schools but not against the comp we have been playing....qb just doesn't have enough time for the the receivers to get down field. 2 step drop and 5-15 yard passes is where it's at. Great field general! Can't wait to see Friday night!

This is a great group of seniors and we are going to miss these guys when they are gone. They have been a lot of fun to watch.

It would be great to win this game but as B&G said, the real games are in November and December. I see a successful drive for 5 coming up and that is where it counts. If we can get a little bit of offensive momentum then we have a chance in this one. If not our defense will exhaust and SP will have their way late in the game.

Speaking of our schedule vs RHSP...
Freedom 3-1 (only loss to us)
AC Reynolds 4-1 (only loss to us, averaging 50 points a game, technically didn't score on us)
Burns (we won't count this one)
Crest 2-2 (losses to us and defending undefeated 3A champ South Point by 8 points just beat undefeated 3AA state champ Weddington)
Kings Mountain 3-1 (only loss to us)

I believe all 4 will make deep playoff runs with the ability to make it to some 'ship games!

Can't wait until Friday.
Buford couldn’t spy because south Pointe was killing them with the pass. You lose a defender that way!
 
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Most talented. Probably. Best team...way to early to tell. You could make a serious argument that Shelby has played a tougher schedule. RH NW, Rock Hill,Nations Ford have won 4 games between the 3 of them. I think Buford is really good but they haven't played anyone either so I am not sure. I don't judge teams on 4 and 5 star athletes. Seen that upfront and personal. ELi Adams basically bought himself a full ride scholarship on his performance against the 4 star Olineman at Mallard Creek last year...............don't buy the hype.

By the way..preseason I read multiple Shelby guys telling me this was their " best team ever". 4 weeks later they are " way down". Its hard to know until you play top level competition and get smacked in the face a bit. 2 most talented MAllard Creek teams didn't win anything. Last years MC team had 3 of the best 5 Olineman in NC based on Rivals and Scout. They couldn't run the ball against anyone who was decent.

Need to play the game and then evaluate.
A tougher schedule... that is laughable!
 
Most talented. Probably. Best team...way to early to tell. You could make a serious argument that Shelby has played a tougher schedule. RH NW, Rock Hill,Nations Ford have won 4 games between the 3 of them. I think Buford is really good but they haven't played anyone either so I am not sure. I don't judge teams on 4 and 5 star athletes. Seen that upfront and personal. ELi Adams basically bought himself a full ride scholarship on his performance against the 4 star Olineman at Mallard Creek last year...............don't buy the hype.

By the way..preseason I read multiple Shelby guys telling me this was their " best team ever". 4 weeks later they are " way down". Its hard to know until you play top level competition and get smacked in the face a bit. 2 most talented MAllard Creek teams didn't win anything. Last years MC team had 3 of the best 5 Olineman in NC based on Rivals and Scout. They couldn't run the ball against anyone who was decent.

Need to play the game and then evaluate.
He had a offer from SC in 10th grade way before Mallard Creek!
 
LOL.. This team had 3 losses, this team had a TD called back, this team is no good..........You dont get to pick what team in what year gets to play when. My facts are 100% accurate. Year in and year out there are SC teams that beat NC teams and there are SC teams that lose. You SC guys want to make it sound like you whip NC schools all the time......FAKE NEWS!!
Pull up the record for this year please vs south pointe and last year and you know what? Add in the year before last! What was the record versus the actual top teams in NC?
 
Hell, I'm pulling for Shelby. But, that boat is leaking and SP out man's them big time.
 
Pulling for Shelby and their defense should keep it from being a blowout. The Stallions look awfully good on film and I expect them to win by multiple scores.
 
I certainly hope the players and coaches don't have the same attitude as the fans on here have. You guys better nut up ....Go in there like you own the damn place. Until they prove different. Make them prove different. I didn't here Dillon fans sound like this when MC was coming to town. I've already heard some of your fans saying they weren't going to the slaughter. You guys better roll in loud and proud. OR YOU SUCK.......Just my opinion.
 
I'm having a small layover in Realville for this game only. Saturday morning I'm back on the Drive for Five express.

Hey, does anyone know what happened to the young D End we had last year. #98 I think? Did he move?
 
I'm having a small layover in Realville for this game only. Saturday morning I'm back on the Drive for Five express.

Hey, does anyone know what happened to the young D End we had last year. #98 I think? Did he move?
I think you meant 99, and I believe he left the team for some reason.
 
I'm having a small layover in Realville for this game only. Saturday morning I'm back on the Drive for Five express.

Hey, does anyone know what happened to the young D End we had last year. #98 I think? Did he move?
Got hurt and then moved from what I was told. He is at East Rutherford. That is two from SHS this year.
 
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I've heard it, too, unfortunately.
LA, like myself, Shelby fans are way to spoiled. 26 W's in a row is good reason why. I think many see only completing 5 or 6 passes total against Crest & KM and offensive struggles as total failure, but I will take 5&0 all day long. D has been stellar , and once the O gets some confidence everything will be fine. Too much talent to think otherwise. I have been following Shelby football longer than most of you have been alive, and have seen many more W's than L's, and I doubt that will change.
 
Got hurt and then moved from what I was told. He is at East Rutherford. That is two from SHS this year.
Isaac Greene left? I was looking for him to return to the lineup soon from his shoulder injury. That young man is a player, he has a good work ethic, too, he would have made our D even stronger.
 
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Isaac Greene left? I was looking for him to return to the lineup soon from his shoulder injury. That young man is a player, he has a good work ethic, too, he would have made our D even stronger.
He left the team a couple weeks ago.I just read in the paper where Coach Ware says South Pointe is the best team he has ever seen on film.I believe him.
 
He left the team a couple weeks ago.I just read in the paper where Coach Ware says South Pointe is the best team he has ever seen on film.I believe him.
Another native of Realville.
Lion Attack was there for the moment, but I think he's set sailed again.
 
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