Mallard Creek needs a week 5 opponent
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Yeah trying to be relevant in a conversation that is way above his head. Its an exposure issue if you only swim in your own pond and conquer that competition you genuinely think that you are the best at what you do across all ponds. The majority of us on this board have gone to see various levels of HS football in different states and classifications and understand the difference. If a program is in existence for 30-50 years naturally the win loss record will be somewhat impressive. If you look at Butler and Mallard Creek from the programs inceptions its hard to argue what those programs have done MC in there first 9-10 and Butler in its first 15-20. That's the metric that should be used. Plain and simple bigger, stronger, faster and very well coached wins every time...
I wanna see Shelby vs. Dillon game, so we can see how are stack against a powerhouse that has the same enrollment as them.
Back to MC. Who do you have returning from the secondary? I know its considered the most vulnerable part of your defense. Do you have any experience returning?
Back to MC. Who do you have returning from the secondary? I know its considered the most vulnerable part of your defense. Do you have any experience returning?
Experience playing at the Varsity level will be limited in the secondary. A few backups played and started a few games and competed in practice against top level offensive players. The JV secondary was very good and has some real potential. Amari Henderson who is now at Wake Forest little brother will be a Soph on the Varsity this year he is actually taller and has the same skill set as his brother I look for him to step up along with some very aggressive guys who once again have waited there turn. They will not be stressed i do not think as much because of the strength of the front 7 which has a TON of senior leadership and playmakers...
Checked out their team twitter page, and MC is not listed. Damn! This is getting ridiculous.
Well as a North Carolinian I hope Mr Caldwell is a piece of the puzzle that MC can use to represent us well on the national stage. I'm a 2A Carver fan but I truly believe that the MC tide will raise all boats!!! If they can increase the spotlight on NC then I think we all benefit!! I think over the past years Charlotte football as a whole has forced everyone to rethink what they do and improve.
What happens to all the kids that have come through the Mallard Creek system.With all these transfers do they just get kicked to the side.How good would MC be with out the transfers?Not a big time power that is for sure.
95% of Mallard Creek players have been with the program since the 9th grade. MC get's 1 to 3 new players annually that get playing time or start. All the kids from MC who've been with program since they arrived are starting.
ALL THESE TRANSFERS? Who are they? As they mentioned during the NFL combine today. MC's a National Power not a big time power. Doing it with Home grown!
We appreciate your concern on wanting to know more about the program SHS LION. Let me know the next time your in Charlotte and i can set you up on a tour.
BIG BOY FOOTBALL.
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nepsy is correct. Almost every player has been at MC since day one freshman year. They have had some players that lived in the district but were at a magnet or attending a private school that return to their Mallard Creek, which was their home district assigned school.
I think the mother of Moss lived in the district. Do not think the father was too about the football at the private she had him enrolled at. Changed back to the public school was a smart move.
Thanks but I know what big time high school football is.It is a cool fall Friday night with 2 defending state champions about to go at with perfect 10 and 0 records and both ranked number 1 in the state.The stadium is close to full 2 hours before the game and at kickoff between 12 and 14 thousand have made their way in.Every news station in the area is there for the game of the year.Then the kickoff and for the next three hours two teams will give all their blood,sweat and tears and play with more heart than you can every imagine.Then when the game concludes there are nothing but hugs and handshakes and total respect for each other.Then both teams will go on and win two more state championships.So I invite you my friend this November to come and see BIG BOY FOOTBALL.95% of Mallard Creek players have been with the program since the 9th grade. MC get's 1 to 3 new players annually. All the kids from MC who've been with program since they arrived are starting.
ALL THESE TRANSFERS? Who are they? As they mentioned during the NFL combine today. MC's a National Power not a big time power. Doing it with Home grown!
We appreciate your concern on wanting to know more about the program SHS LION. Let me know the next time your in Charlotte and i can set you up on a tour.
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I think we need to be careful and you might consider in semantics but in fact there are no transfers who play at MC. There have been 2 or 3 a year whose families move into the district and relocate like Chauncey or Corey Sutton.
Then there are the kids who already lived in the district who went to privates ans decide to go back to there home schools like Thomas Gordon and Moss.
To answer SHS question. Would MC still be a powerhouse. Yes. The thing that nobody knows is how good the kid playing behind a Moss or a Sutton is. Keshun Abel is 6 4 200 lbs and may very well be as good or better than both this year. 2013 team is still the best MC squad in my opinion and they ran over everyone. Had one kid that relocated in the top 30.
All school get kids from relocation. .All of them. You hear about the Creek kids because they are super high profile. Vance, Hough had just as many kids move in as MC. Nobody even cares because of their performance.
Kids will continue to migrate to MC. It's what happens when you send 12-15 kids to the next level each year. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. Chauncey Caldwell could have moved to Shelby. His family chose not to.
Then there are the kids who already lived in the district who went to privates ans decide to go back to there home schools like Thomas Gordon and Moss.
To answer SHS question. Would MC still be a powerhouse. Yes. The thing that nobody knows is how good the kid playing behind a Moss or a Sutton is. Keshun Abel is 6 4 200 lbs and may very well be as good or better than both this year. 2013 team is still the best MC squad in my opinion and they ran over everyone. Had one kid that relocated in the top 30.
All school get kids from relocation. .All of them. You hear about the Creek kids because they are super high profile. Vance, Hough had just as many kids move in as MC. Nobody even cares because of their performance.
Kids will continue to migrate to MC. It's what happens when you send 12-15 kids to the next level each year. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. Chauncey Caldwell could have moved to Shelby. His family chose not to.
Some incorrect info on here....
More than 2 players transferred to MC last season, I believe it was 5 or more key contributors.
Also, it was stated that most of these players already lived in the MC district but attended magnet or private schools which is also wrong.
There were more transfers but those were the kids last offseason that transferred in and contributed to the success at MC. Please don't try to make it seem like all these kids that attended private schools or magnet programs while living in the creek district. Please believe me, if there is a big time football player living in that district, there is no way in hell he is going to private school when there is a big time football program in their back yard, unless the parents value education way more than football.
For me, I see no problem with families relocating. I actually applaud these parents for doing all they can to see their kids succeed at the highest level. MC does a great job at winning and they also do a great job of promoting their kids to college programs.
This offseason they already have gotten a 6'3 QB from Durham, a 5'11 WR/CB from New York, and a 6'3 DE from the DC area. Im sure they will get a whole bunch of transfers from the CMS area also.
More than 2 players transferred to MC last season, I believe it was 5 or more key contributors.
Also, it was stated that most of these players already lived in the MC district but attended magnet or private schools which is also wrong.
There were more transfers but those were the kids last offseason that transferred in and contributed to the success at MC. Please don't try to make it seem like all these kids that attended private schools or magnet programs while living in the creek district. Please believe me, if there is a big time football player living in that district, there is no way in hell he is going to private school when there is a big time football program in their back yard, unless the parents value education way more than football.
For me, I see no problem with families relocating. I actually applaud these parents for doing all they can to see their kids succeed at the highest level. MC does a great job at winning and they also do a great job of promoting their kids to college programs.
This offseason they already have gotten a 6'3 QB from Durham, a 5'11 WR/CB from New York, and a 6'3 DE from the DC area. Im sure they will get a whole bunch of transfers from the CMS area also.
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Your info is not complete on at least two of the above kids but once we start getting into what adult lived where and when I usually step out of the conversation. Because it is simply NOBODY'S BUSINESS as long as the CMS rules are being followed and to my knowledge they have been to a T. It certainly doesn't belong on a public Web site.
Now...if we have a situation like Hough where the kid had to sit 365 because it was determined he wasn't living in the district that is a different situation
Now...if we have a situation like Hough where the kid had to sit 365 because it was determined he wasn't living in the district that is a different situation
You know what....Your right. My fault. Maybe that was a little too much info that is personal and I should not have posted that about these MC players but that is what I was told by a parent that is very involved with the MC program. I will delete the part about where kids lived prior to enrolling into MC.
You need to find another source or just ask someone who actually knows. . Than to start naming off new players that moved from out of state as though they are going to start is hilarious. You know how it works and what you're trying to insinuate. I know for a fact that OL & DL that mauled Butler the last 3 years is home grown.
The only one that has a snow ball chance in starting would be the QB since this is the 1st year in school history MC will actually have a QB competition. I have no clue how the other guys will crack the starting roster because as last year, we are home grown loaded.
The only one that has a snow ball chance in starting would be the QB since this is the 1st year in school history MC will actually have a QB competition. I have no clue how the other guys will crack the starting roster because as last year, we are home grown loaded.
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What is wrong with me listing players that have already came from out of state? People are going to find out regardless. Like I said, I have no problem with it unlike many in the Charlotte area. I actually applaud the parents for getting the kids in the perfect situation to learn the game and get a scholarship. Kids moving from NY and DC is only a testament to how much of a brand "creek football" is now. Although Im sure the families moved to CLT for work and decided that MC would be the best school for their kids career after they decided they were going to make the move to charlotte.
LOL and it's cute how you tried to throw butler in their with a little insult. You know, for butler being the only program in cms to ever be competitive with MC the last few years I would have thought they would get a little more respect. Actually I think they did pretty good losing 35-30 to a team that was claimed to be 28 points better than everyone in the state in August. Hell, people were claiming they were on the level of 2004 indy or 2012 butler before those guys every played a down of football.
I know the MC program very well. I know the difference between MC and other really good programs in NC is that MC has an elite OL every damn year, and that is all home grown like you said Nepsy. Those guys are all big as hell and move really well. I respect the MC program very much.
Come on Man! You have been around long enough. You're definitely not talking about Butler getting new players, or half of West Charlotte best players going to Rocky River, or the year Hough roster was loaded with 8 FBS players who were down right recruited. The program is magnified because of the success it has had. It's just sad for a guy from a program like Butler would chime in with information that is not all true. I was not trying to insult Butler, i was only mentioning facts. Mallard Creek beats Butler in the trenches. In this year will have the biggest team in the trenches in school history. I was not around for the 2004 Indy but MC has already filded teams that would handle the 2012 Butler.
I have a rule. I don't speak about kids until they are enrolled and I do my best to keep private information private. All of us are subject to rumors etc,etc.
Once they are enrolled they are Creek Boys and why or how they got there is really nobodies business. Certainly not mine. Plenty of people with wrong info , plenty of parents with their own agendas.
Does MC get alot of relocation kids. Yup..it's what comes with sucess. Any idea how many Hough had last year and the year before?. Lots..
Once they are enrolled they are Creek Boys and why or how they got there is really nobodies business. Certainly not mine. Plenty of people with wrong info , plenty of parents with their own agendas.
Does MC get alot of relocation kids. Yup..it's what comes with sucess. Any idea how many Hough had last year and the year before?. Lots..
Again, I do not have a problem with kids moving to the creek. Why not move to the creek? They are a great program. Im on yalls side of the argument. Most I talk to in the charlotte area think MC recruits as if their Bama or LSU, and I often find myself trying to defend MC when talking to people face to face about HS football in the area.
@Nepsy- 2004 indy was the real deal. Some say 2001 was better with Leak but who knows. And what creek team would handle 2012 butler? HAHA you've been drinking tonight huh? 2012 butler blows out 2014 and 2015 creek. 2013 was a good team but with a sophomore QB IDK if they score enough to keep up with Ferguson, glisson, Lemay and those boys but I do agree 2013 was a really good team. And lets not bring up teams that didn't win a state tittle.
@Blue and Gold22- I believe the only kids I have brought up is the DE from DC and the WR/CB form NY. I believe they have already enrolled into school down here so it is not a rumor they are officially creek boys.
@Nepsy- 2004 indy was the real deal. Some say 2001 was better with Leak but who knows. And what creek team would handle 2012 butler? HAHA you've been drinking tonight huh? 2012 butler blows out 2014 and 2015 creek. 2013 was a good team but with a sophomore QB IDK if they score enough to keep up with Ferguson, glisson, Lemay and those boys but I do agree 2013 was a really good team. And lets not bring up teams that didn't win a state tittle.
@Blue and Gold22- I believe the only kids I have brought up is the DE from DC and the WR/CB form NY. I believe they have already enrolled into school down here so it is not a rumor they are officially creek boys.
Wiseman please explain the point of mentioning 2 guys moving in from out of state, that every school in Charlotte gets? Like the Creek had a draft. LOL! I'm not even going into the this team could beat that team thread. You win and i've been drinking!
That's just someone's opinion.FYI! Never try and defend success because 99% of the time you're just defending it against true haters.
They will never change their minds.
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Didn't know mentioning 2 kids that are now at the creek would cause so much harm. MC will be good with or without them.
Reason I always defend MC is because I live on the side of town where indy and butler resides. Not too long ago everyone claimed those 2 schools recruited and I remember how bogus it was back then and its now bogus with MC. The end.
Reason I always defend MC is because I live on the side of town where indy and butler resides. Not too long ago everyone claimed those 2 schools recruited and I remember how bogus it was back then and its now bogus with MC. The end.
It's all about interpretation. My bad! Thank you sir and i appreciate the clarification.
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@Blue and Gold22- I believe the only kids I have brought up is the DE from DC and the WR/CB form NY. I believe they have already enrolled into school down here so it is not a rumor they are officially creek boys.[/QUOTE]
Wiseman- I am familiar with both of them. Lassiter is clearly a player but I really think he is a rotation guy for the Creek based on what they have coming back up front. Hampton, Gibson, Davis, CJ, Bass, Livsey. That's 6 that all have varsity playing time and at least 4 of them are BCS level kids. Could he move to OLB?? Don't think he has the lateral movement but could be wrong.
Spence I have just seen tape. Pretty crowded at the receiver spot with Jones, Abel, Jaquez but he might fit in as a CB. He looks like he can fly on tape.
I just get tired of the transfer talk. So many false stories and innuendo. I am sure you have heard 2 dozen more stories of kids that were supposed to come but never did. They don't recruit, they don't need to. They have been scrutinized... they have passed all the tests.
@Blue and Gold22- I believe the only kids I have brought up is the DE from DC and the WR/CB form NY. I believe they have already enrolled into school down here so it is not a rumor they are officially creek boys.[/QUOTE]
Wiseman- I am familiar with both of them. Lassiter is clearly a player but I really think he is a rotation guy for the Creek based on what they have coming back up front. Hampton, Gibson, Davis, CJ, Bass, Livsey. That's 6 that all have varsity playing time and at least 4 of them are BCS level kids. Could he move to OLB?? Don't think he has the lateral movement but could be wrong.
Spence I have just seen tape. Pretty crowded at the receiver spot with Jones, Abel, Jaquez but he might fit in as a CB. He looks like he can fly on tape.
I just get tired of the transfer talk. So many false stories and innuendo. I am sure you have heard 2 dozen more stories of kids that were supposed to come but never did. They don't recruit, they don't need to. They have been scrutinized... they have passed all the tests.
The reason I brought up those two kids was to just state the fact that MC has that kind of reach. To the point where families out of state want their children to be coached at a program like the one in north charlotte.
I get that some of you guys are tired of the transfer talk but it comes with the territory. Happened with butler and indy. In fact, allegations and transfer talk was a whole lot worse with knotts at indy, to the point where a $100,000 was launched due to peer pressure from the public basically lol.
Lassiter will for sure play a whole lot this season. He is a nice addition to the DL who was already deep.
Now the NY kid..ehhhh. He is going to have a rude awakening when he faces byrnes, butler, Dillon, etc. because the competition he faced in NY was straight up trash from what I saw on that tape. I don't even think he gets much play time in all honesty.
Regardless of transfers, and regardless of your non conference record, you guys should win your 4th state tittle. Although I think that team up in forsyth county reruns a whole bunch and will seek revenge.
I get that some of you guys are tired of the transfer talk but it comes with the territory. Happened with butler and indy. In fact, allegations and transfer talk was a whole lot worse with knotts at indy, to the point where a $100,000 was launched due to peer pressure from the public basically lol.
Lassiter will for sure play a whole lot this season. He is a nice addition to the DL who was already deep.
Now the NY kid..ehhhh. He is going to have a rude awakening when he faces byrnes, butler, Dillon, etc. because the competition he faced in NY was straight up trash from what I saw on that tape. I don't even think he gets much play time in all honesty.
Regardless of transfers, and regardless of your non conference record, you guys should win your 4th state tittle. Although I think that team up in forsyth county reruns a whole bunch and will seek revenge.
Unless my kid is elite. No way am i bringing him to Mallard Creek going into his JR & SR season. Last spring there were about 7 different fathers who had kids that were new to the program, that decided to move into Mallard Creeks zone. I spoke with them on a regular. They thought their kids would be starters. By time the 1st day of practice arrived, not one of them was still with the program.
Wisemen the new kid @ DE is way behind in the weight room. Him playing a lot is definitely not guaranteed.
The above is more of a reality of how it works at the Creek.
Wisemen the new kid @ DE is way behind in the weight room. Him playing a lot is definitely not guaranteed.
The above is more of a reality of how it works at the Creek.
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