Could There Be A Referee Problem in The NCHSAA ???

[TD-FridayNight]

You could get a lot of your questions answered by starting at the MA school ad building, I do believe a past president of NCHSAA is still employed there. I believe she was president as recently as 2018.

I know who you are talking about and I worked with her husband in sales in the break he took from teaching for several years, maybe 2, and also was around him at another job for almost 10 years. They are both upstanding well-loved citizens and she has high principles as does he. Church going and I know no one that comes as honest as this couple. You won't find any wrongdoing by Her or him. I have the highest respect for them both as does the city of Mount Airy. You are right, she could probably reveal a lot but she is too respectable to say anything she may have seen wrong. I know you have to know her well and her husband and know what I am saying is true. I would not demeanor her by asking her anything she might know.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

There’s an official shortage because of people like TD

If Refs are allowed to do a lousy job then what signal does that send to the kids playing sports. So you think that is ok and should not be fixed. Do you halfway do your job and if so how long will you keep it ? Pay them more and have others trained and waiting to take over as you would be replaced if you could not do your job. If you are a student then you would fail and repeat a year. TD thinks we need some changes with Refs that all do their jobs as trained to do! ! ! If you disagree then people like you are what is wrong with this country !

 

[ocdavis31]

I know who you are talking about and I worked with her husband in sales in the break he took from teaching for several years, maybe 2, and also was around him at another job for almost 10 years. They are both upstanding well-loved citizens and she has high principles as does he. Church going and I know no one that comes as honest as this couple. You won't find any wrongdoing by Her or him. I have the highest respect for them both as does the city of Mount Airy. You are right, she could probably reveal a lot but she is too respectable to say anything she may have seen wrong. I know you have to know her well and her husband and know what I am saying is true. I would not demeanor her by asking her anything she might know.

TD, the point may be that the lady you’re referring to might be able to share with you the reason why the endowment fund is necessary. And why it needs to be so large. I suspect that she’d be happy to do that.

 

[Sportsnut17]

I know who you are talking about and I worked with her husband in sales in the break he took from teaching for several years, maybe 2, and also was around him at another job for almost 10 years. They are both upstanding well-loved citizens and she has high principles as does he. Church going and I know no one that comes as honest as this couple. You won't find any wrongdoing by Her or him. I have the highest respect for them both as does the city of Mount Airy. You are right, she could probably reveal a lot but she is too respectable to say anything she may have seen wrong. I know you have to know her well and her husband and know what I am saying is true. I would not demeanor her by asking her anything she might know.

I certainly wasn’t implying that she did anything illegal or unethical. To be perfectly honest, I doubt she saw either of those by anyone working for or governing NCHSAA.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

TD, the point may be that the lady you’re referring to might be able to share with you the reason why the endowment fund is necessary. And why it needs to be so large. I suspect that she’d be happy to do that.

I would rather someone that knows on hear explain it. I have too much respect for her to feel like I was putting her on the spot with all but a few on here that may know but won't explain to those of us that are in the dark. If I was going to ask her it would have been while she was still at MA school system and pre-2018.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

I certainly wasn’t implying that she did anything illegal or unethical. To be perfectly honest, I doubt she saw either of those by anyone working for or governing NCHSAA.

I was not suggesting that you were implying anything she did wrong or do I think you would do that. I have known the family for 30 or 35 years or more and they don't come any finer.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

I would rather someone that knows on hear explain it. I have too much respect for her to feel like I was putting her on the spot with all but a few on here that may know but won't explain to those of us that are in the dark. If I was going to ask her it would have been while she was still at MA school system and pre-2018.

Why is it not known by all instead of being such a secret all these years? With 42 million dollars in their bank account and only being known several months ago, then I see a lot of questions needing to be answered, and the answer should have been on the NCHSAA website all along as all transactions with money collected and spent. Also, plains for the 42 million needs to be on their website.

 

[Mhsneer]

TD, the point may be that the lady you’re referring to might be able to share with you the reason why the endowment fund is necessary. And why it needs to be so large. I suspect that she’d be happy to do that.

So it’s ok for the nchsaa to horde money but not for the state legislature? Also, the interest on the money alone would outfit poor schools with much needed equipment. I don’t know why Que is leading the association. I assume this hoarding started before her, but when officials are making $100 a game and coaches are no where to be found, it looks like they could spare a few dollars. Also, it’s the fans money that’s sitting there. It’s not like they get commercial revenues like colleges. In a day when you have to buy helmets and shoulder pads by selling Boston Butts, literally that’s what we do, and the state takes over half the gate? Common man

 

[buzzcoach]

Ref shortage is bc idiot fans

You could get a lot of your questions answered by starting at the MA school ad building, I do believe a past president of NCHSAA is still employed there. I believe she was president as recently as 2018.

She is retired from both now.

 

[No Mercy]

I think the NCHSAA is close to incompetent, but the Endowment, which is big enough, is not close to the issue that concerns me. They have actually been upfront with how much the endowment holds. I contend its big enough, and rather than continuing endowment games, simply have an endowment campaign every year where schools can contribute if they want.

Fines is the one area where I think NCHSAA critics are way off base. its like pulling teeth now to get people to turn in the paperwork, records and money. if we do away with fines it will be worse.

The alternative, forefeits etc is far worse, and will punish kids even more. the on the field results cannot be changed because someone didnt turn in a required report or something. These same people will then be howling about that.

Fine money is a very small amount, unless you habitually dont follow the rules. The NCHSAA also waives most fines IF you self report.

I think the vast majority of coaches would be dead set against punishing schools by taking wins or playoff berths.

We cant even get schools to turn in their records on playoff reporting dates on time.

 

[ocdavis31]

So it’s ok for the nchsaa to horde money but not for the state legislature? Also, the interest on the money alone would outfit poor schools with much needed equipment. I don’t know why Que is leading the association. I assume this hoarding started before her, but when officials are making $100 a game and coaches are no where to be found, it looks like they could spare a few dollars. Also, it’s the fans money that’s sitting there. It’s not like they get commercial revenues like colleges. In a day when you have to buy helmets and shoulder pads by selling Boston Butts, literally that’s what we do, and the state takes over half the gate? Common man

I don’t disagree at all that the NCHSAA should do some things differently to help high school athletics. And people who have read my posts over the years know that I’m usually not their biggest fan.
But I have such a high level of disregard for the state legislature that they make the NCHSAA look like Mother Teresa. With them, it is totally about arrogance and control, no matter the issue. But they know how to push the buttons of individual fan bases. Don’t like the playoff format? Call your legislator. Don’t like your conference? Make the same call. It’s total BS. Like most of what they do, it’s based on emotion rather than fact.

 

[buzzcoach]

I know who you are talking about and I worked with her husband in sales in the break he took from teaching for several years, maybe 2, and also was around him at another job for almost 10 years. They are both upstanding well-loved citizens and she has high principles as does he. Church going and I know no one that comes as honest as this couple. You won't find any wrongdoing by Her or him. I have the highest respect for them both as does the city of Mount Airy. You are right, she could probably reveal a lot but she is too respectable to say anything she may have seen wrong. I know you have to know her well and her husband and know what I am saying is true. I would not demeanor her by asking her anything she might know.

They haven't been married for years!!!!!!! He has even been remarried and divorced again. You don't know them to well.

 

[Mhsneer]

I don’t disagree at all that the NCHSAA should do some things differently to help high school athletics. And people who have read my posts over the years know that I’m usually not their biggest fan.
But I have such a high level of disregard for the state legislature that they make the NCHSAA look like Mother Teresa. With them, it is totally about arrogance and control, no matter the issue. But they know how to push the buttons of individual fan bases. Don’t like the playoff format? Call your legislator. Don’t like your conference? Make the same call. It’s total BS. Like most of what they do, it’s based on emotion rather than fact.

Don’t totally disagree, however the nchsaa should not be given a pass. They need to help schools outside the I85 corridor.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

TD, the point may be that the lady you’re referring to might be able to share with you the reason why the endowment fund is necessary. And why it needs to be so large. I suspect that she’d be happy to do that.

Also, I have known MA had someone there for years and I am not the one that brought her into this. Also, this 42 million dollar was not known about until this fall so why was she brought into this when I know she has been gone several years. The one there now has the monkey on their backs and needs to bring this all out on the website and it kept updated every year ! ! ! But as I said the audit needs to go back 10+ years to find how and why this account was started if no one at the NCHSAA wants to come forward and put it all on their website. Also, it does not need to be hidden many pages deep and hard to find but on the home page.

 

[No Mercy]

The huge endowment fund has absolutley been known about by the schools. maybe the general public wasnt paying close attention, but it has never been a secret.

And as i said, I think the NCHSAA is largely incompetent.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

They haven't been married for years!!!!!!! He has even been remarried and divorced again. You don't know them to well.

I have not had contact for probably 15 years or more and I promise I know them very well. Lost contact when he went to an out-of-county school as a coach and then a principal. Probably around 2000 to 2005 when I worked with him so don't tell me I don't know someone as well as I knew them. I don't come on here putting you down but I can if you want Mount Airy fans against each other. If you do it again I will have a question for you that you should answer as you did not answer when someone asked it before. I do not give you a rough time but I can. So it stops here. As I said I knew them well for 30 to 35 years him better than her but both.

 

[buzzcoach]

I have not had contact for probably 15 years or more and I promise I know them very well. Lost contact when he went to an out-of-county school as a coach and then a principal. Probably around 2000 to 2005 when I worked with him so don't tell me I don't know someone as well as I knew them. I don't come on here putting you down but I can if you want Mount Airy fans against each other. If you do it again I will have a question for you that you should answer as you did not answer when someone asked it before. I do not give you a rough time but I can. So it stops here. As I said I knew them well for 30 to 35 years him better than her but both.

Lol they were teachers when I was at MA and I see him all the time. You may have known them but you haven't in a while as you didn't know they were not married. This stops here lmbo you are 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[TD-FridayNight]

Lol they were teachers when I was at MA and I see him all the time. You may have known them but you haven't in a while as you didn't know they were not married. This stops here lmbo you are 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Are you teaching at a public, private, or charter school and when did you become a teacher? Someone asked if you were a teacher now and got no answer after a post you made that even lead me to think you were teaching and today you said your district got a $1,500.00 bonus I think this week and $1,000.00 at the end of the year. If you have become a teacher since you got married, that is great news but I was just wondering why you didn't answer the question and only seemed to insinuate that you got the bonus by not saying you got the bonus and only your district. AS I said if you went back to school and got a teaching degree, I want to be the first to congratulate you on a job well done and you should not hide something that good. You should be proud of it !

 

[ocdavis31]

The huge endowment fund has absolutley been known about by the schools. maybe the general public wasnt paying close attention, but it has never been a secret.

And as i said, I think the NCHSAA is largely incompetent.

It’s been discussed ad nauseam on NC Preps for several years.

 

[Sportsnut17]

It’s been discussed ad nauseam on NC Preps for several years.

Sorta like charter schools. Can’t wait for that discussion again. Basketball season is here. But someone will just discover them and start it up.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

It’s been discussed ad nauseam on NC Preps for several years.

Was the 42 million in the bank ever brought up before this fall ? If so I don't see how it was missed.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

Sorta like charter schools. Can’t wait for that discussion again. Basketball season is here. But someone will just discover them and start it up.

I think most are satisfied with the realignment with some charter, magnet open enrollment, and private are in conferences together. I can't say what all will be said come playoffs.

 

[ocdavis31]

Was the 42 million in the bank ever brought up before this fall ? If so I don't see how it was missed.

Yes. Several times. Btango was talking about it in April, and it’s not new news. I suspect he can cite other times it was mentioned.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

Yes. Several times. Btango was talking about it in April, and it’s not new news. I suspect he can cite other times it was mentioned.

I am not usually on here after basketball season. Is Btango ok? I can't remember seeing him post in a while. Prayers that he is ok and had his shots if he chose to, including the booster. I can't believe the number of people I know that have been lost to COVID this year and a lot 15 and 20 years younger than me. I think the shots even stop the common cold and sinus infections as I by now would have had at least one of each by now and have not had either. The common cold and respiratory infections are different forms of COVID.

 

[Sportsnut17]

I am not usually on here after basketball season. Is Btango ok? I can't remember seeing him post in a while. Prayers that he is ok and had his shots if he chose to, including the booster.

He post quite often on the 4A board.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

He post quite often on the 4A board.

Not sure you caught what I went back and added to that last post as I was probably adding as you were answering.

 

[TD-FridayNight]

You're surrounded by socialist programs already. Do you draw social security?

No one wants full blown socialism. Stop letting people make you believe that programs that help people are 3rd world full blown socialism.

I have a mind of my own and my decisions are made from listening to all sides.
All I had to do is listen to Bernie Sander, AOC, and her gang and now Biden seems to be falling right in line with a lot of their wants to know how Socialist they want to become. Look at how gas prices and everything else went up the first 6 months of Bidens Presidency or whatever you want to call it. The Democrats try to keep him and Harris away from the public. As a country, it is embarrassing when he does talk he forgets what he is talking about and starts mumbling. Are you proud of our President ? And overseas a few months ago in a meeting with other countries, every time the camera showed him, he was asleep. I saw it 1st on MSNBC then again on Fox and another news channel, not a major news network as it was shown most every day for a week. I watch a lot of news and not just one news network but I want all views and always have not depended on one channel. I have apps on my TV for 5 or 6 all news channels. I vote for who I think will convince me they will be the best. I did vote for Obama the first time but not the second because Obamacare was not as advertised. I could not see my DR. that was also my Fathers Dr. as we were promised.

 

[new_dawg]

If Refs are allowed to do a lousy job then what signal does that send to the kids playing sports. So you think that is ok and should not be fixed. Do you halfway do your job and if so how long will you keep it ? Pay them more and have others trained and waiting to take over as you would be replaced if you could not do your job. If you are a student then you would fail and repeat a year. TD thinks we need some changes with Refs that all do their jobs as trained to do! ! ! If you disagree then people like you are what is wrong with this country !

TD, I've officiated for 44 years. Started when I was in college and have loved doing it ever since. I've worked some Mt. Airy games over the years, too, so I may be one of the guys you feel aren't doing our jobs. Hey, I'm human and I know I make some mistakes. All I can say is I try to give the kids my best effort every Friday night (and Wednesdays and Thursdays for that matter too).

After playing in high school, I also thought the officials didn't know what they were doing, so I decided that I would do my part to make things better by gracing these officials with my know-it-all presence. Well, the first thing I discovered is that it's a whole lot easier to talk good officiating than to do it. The rules are intricate, the coverage areas and keys require self-discipline and good judgment to police properly, and the job is made more difficult year after year because of the growing disrespect we get from not just fans (that's always been there), but from players and some coaches. Heck, when I played back in the 1970's, my coach would jerk a knot in our heads if we said anything to an official.

In short, I came in thinking I was going to be God's gift to officiating. It didn't take long for me to become VERY humbled. I've stuck with it, however, and absolutely can't fathom Friday nights in the fall without being out there on the field and being part of this sport I absolutely love. Unfortunately, we are so short on officials that our group (which covers Mt. Airy and about 100 other schools during the regular season and first two playoff rounds) that we have had to work varsity games with 4-man crews on occasion. Young people aren't getting into it any more, and old farts like me are retiring every year.

I've said a lot to get to this. If you truly feel that so many officials lack integrity, are incompetent, or have some kind of interest in the outcome, I invite you to do something about it -- join us -- be part of the solution!
It takes absolutely no commitment or courage to anonymously complain and bash the people who do the job. A person who really cares about the problem will do their best to constructively do something about it.

There is a local group of officials from our organization in your area who actually meet for clinics in Mt. Airy. Here is a link to information on becoming a football official: https://northstatefootballofficials.com/

 

[TD-FridayNight]

I am not saying all Refs are bad but I think some are there to get attention-getting to throw that flag. But I do think there are just as many or more that are like you, they are there to do a good job and be fair. I am not going to repeat everything I have said on here as you can go back and read my posts. I am too old to try and become a Ref as I will be 71 in 2 days but 10 or 15 years ago I did not have the health problem as bad as I have now that gets worse every year all diabetes-related. I do hope there are people that want to be fair and make a difference that is here reading your post that will get on the website and go for it and become good Refs. As I said please read what I am asking for better pay and more millage pay for Refs that will do a good job. Sorry but I have good days and bad days with my health and yesterday was a great day for me but today is not so good. So that is all I will say for now. I am sure there are more good Refs than bad but from what I hear, there were 2 bad Refs at the last game Mount Airy played this year. Again just read my post and If you are the way you say you are then I thank GOD for all the good ones and hope more people that are able will take advantage of the info you posted and at least look into it. Sorry like I said today is not a good day for me so I will go now, and do read my posts as they are asking for more pay and more millage pay for Refs. Thank you for the info and wish I was much younger. Got to go but do read my posts and some other good posts on here. You have a good day Sir and thank you for trying to make a difference and I wish all Refs had your attitude in their job. Got to go now. Thanks for your post !

 

[REWhitley]

TD, I've officiated for 44 years. Started when I was in college and have loved doing it ever since. I've worked some Mt. Airy games over the years, too, so I may be one of the guys you feel aren't doing our jobs. Hey, I'm human and I know I make some mistakes. All I can say is I try to give the kids my best effort every Friday night (and Wednesdays and Thursdays for that matter too).

After playing in high school, I also thought the officials didn't know what they were doing, so I decided that I would do my part to make things better by gracing these officials with my know-it-all presence. Well, the first thing I discovered is that it's a whole lot easier to talk good officiating than to do it. The rules are intricate, the coverage areas and keys require self-discipline and good judgment to police properly, and the job is made more difficult year after year because of the growing disrespect we get from not just fans (that's always been there), but from players and some coaches. Heck, when I played back in the 1970's, my coach would jerk a knot in our heads if we said anything to an official.

In short, I came in thinking I was going to be God's gift to officiating. It didn't take long for me to become VERY humbled. I've stuck with it, however, and absolutely can't fathom Friday nights in the fall without being out there on the field and being part of this sport I absolutely love. Unfortunately, we are so short on officials that our group (which covers Mt. Airy and about 100 other schools during the regular season and first two playoff rounds) that we have had to work varsity games with 4-man crews on occasion. Young people aren't getting into it any more, and old farts like me are retiring every year.

I've said a lot to get to this. If you truly feel that so many officials lack integrity, are incompetent, or have some kind of interest in the outcome, I invite you to do something about it -- join us -- be part of the solution!
It takes absolutely no commitment or courage to anonymously complain and bash the people who do the job. A person who really cares about the problem will do their best to constructively do something about it.

There is a local group of officials from our organization in your area who actually meet for clinics in Mt. Airy. Here is a link to information on becoming a football official: https://northstatefootballofficials.com/

I really appreciate your posting and thank you for you work. As I said in one of my post that in 11 years of Surry County Little League, we never had an issue. We used high school officials, and in one Championship game held at East Surry, we were fortunate enough to have a Southern Conference official as the head official.

(As a side note, after the game, he came to the press box and gave me his check back and thanked me for "allowing him" to be a part of the most outstanding event of his career.)

We started each year with the two main rules that I stated earlier; The officials would be respected. Period. End of story. But second, and this was done with the officials and the Board of Directors, the games were about the kids. Not the coaches, not the officials, not the parents. If an official made a mistake, and that mistake was correctable, then correct it. Do not make it up on another play. Correct it then. Not many times, but sometimes they did correct something.

My concern is not even if an official "blows" a call. Crap happens. But when one or two officials MAKE CRAP HAPPEN as I know they did at Mt Airy two Friday nights ago, then that is entirely another matter.

 

[ocdavis31]

TD, I've officiated for 44 years. Started when I was in college and have loved doing it ever since. I've worked some Mt. Airy games over the years, too, so I may be one of the guys you feel aren't doing our jobs. Hey, I'm human and I know I make some mistakes. All I can say is I try to give the kids my best effort every Friday night (and Wednesdays and Thursdays for that matter too).

After playing in high school, I also thought the officials didn't know what they were doing, so I decided that I would do my part to make things better by gracing these officials with my know-it-all presence. Well, the first thing I discovered is that it's a whole lot easier to talk good officiating than to do it. The rules are intricate, the coverage areas and keys require self-discipline and good judgment to police properly, and the job is made more difficult year after year because of the growing disrespect we get from not just fans (that's always been there), but from players and some coaches. Heck, when I played back in the 1970's, my coach would jerk a knot in our heads if we said anything to an official.

In short, I came in thinking I was going to be God's gift to officiating. It didn't take long for me to become VERY humbled. I've stuck with it, however, and absolutely can't fathom Friday nights in the fall without being out there on the field and being part of this sport I absolutely love. Unfortunately, we are so short on officials that our group (which covers Mt. Airy and about 100 other schools during the regular season and first two playoff rounds) that we have had to work varsity games with 4-man crews on occasion. Young people aren't getting into it any more, and old farts like me are retiring every year.

I've said a lot to get to this. If you truly feel that so many officials lack integrity, are incompetent, or have some kind of interest in the outcome, I invite you to do something about it -- join us -- be part of the solution!
It takes absolutely no commitment or courage to anonymously complain and bash the people who do the job. A person who really cares about the problem will do their best to constructively do something about it.

There is a local group of officials from our organization in your area who actually meet for clinics in Mt. Airy. Here is a link to information on becoming a football official: https://northstatefootballofficials.com/

One of the best posts I’ve read on NC Preps. And very much describes most officials before they figure out how much they don’t know. The good ones work hard to get better. The others draw a check. But I truly believe there are a lot more of the former than the latter. Thanks new dawg, for what you do.

 

[The Deerhunter]

I really appreciate your posting and thank you for you work. As I said in one of my post that in 11 years of Surry County Little League, we never had an issue. We used high school officials, and in one Championship game held at East Surry, we were fortunate enough to have a Southern Conference official as the head official.

(As a side note, after the game, he came to the press box and gave me his check back and thanked me for "allowing him" to be a part of the most outstanding event of his career.)

We started each year with the two main rules that I stated earlier; The officials would be respected. Period. End of story. But second, and this was done with the officials and the Board of Directors, the games were about the kids. Not the coaches, not the officials, not the parents. If an official made a mistake, and that mistake was correctable, then correct it. Do not make it up on another play. Correct it then. Not many times, but sometimes they did correct something.

My concern is not even if an official "blows" a call. Crap happens. But when one or two officials MAKE CRAP HAPPEN as I know they did at Mt Airy two Friday nights ago, then that is entirely another matter.

They didn’t make crap happen. Watch the replay and tell your players to quit running that mouth, intentionally twisting ankles and throwing shoes. Teach them from a young age how to act win or loose. Mitchell beat them fair and square, so suck it up and bring a disciplined team next year. I’ll be the first to admit that Mt. Airy had more athletes but that doesn’t always mean a win. Brains and discipline also play a big role.

 

[buzzcoach]

They didn’t make crap happen. Watch the replay and tell your players to quit running that mouth, intentionally twisting ankles and throwing shoes. Teach them from a young age how to act win or loose. Mitchell beat them fair and square, so suck it up and bring a disciplined team next year. I’ll be the first to admit that Mt. Airy had more athletes but that doesn’t always mean a win. Brains and discipline also play a big rol

 

[buzzcoach]

Good coaching takes care of all the above without it all the talent in the world will not beat another good team.

 

[DelusionalMountaineer]

This might be the saddest thread that's ever been posted on here. MA wasn't good enough to beat Mitchell on that night period. If they were they would have won. You have a few screws loose of you believe any of this nonsense you've posted.

 

[No Mercy]

I will say- hes right. There SHOULD be a mechanism in which to hold officials more accountable. But in this climate its not feasible right now unless its super duper stupid blatant. They just need bodies too bad.

 

[FB is my Life]

Not enough officials and will get alot worse. The next generation is coming in now and after two seasons decide not worth it. The old guys are retiring and in all sports it will be a problem, prob should be better pay In think. These guys do plenty of clinics and scrimmages and exams to be prepared so that's not the problem.

The problem is maniacal fans and screaming coaches. Many that get into officiating never get to the HS level. We are losing officials at the youth level due to parents and fans doing absolutely crazy stuff.

 

[prlyles]

With all the posting about the bad calls at the MA Mitchell game, not one example has been posted…

 

[Sportsnut17]

I will say- hes right. There SHOULD be a mechanism in which to hold officials more accountable. But in this climate its not feasible right now unless its super duper stupid blatant. They just need bodies too bad.

I promise you it is addressed. Everyone is not invited back, even when there is a shortage of officials. Also each coach is allowed to mark off officials that they may have had differences with. Also officials are allowed to mark off schools. I am sure I am marked off some places and I know I have some schools marked off.

I would love to see the Hudl plays on the questionable calls. I have evaluated film on many games over the years and I promise you I have been harder on officials that make glaring mistakes. And in turn I have informed coaches and officials that I think they got right.

I have purposely stayed out of this discussion as I know what it would have turned into for me.

 

[BlueVols]

TD, I also have held my opinion and observations until after the Championship game. On purpose as to take nothing away from the young men playing that game.

But, I was at the game, I was either at the end zone or under the scoreboard the entire game. Let tell you about the half time, I was at the scoreboard end with several other older guys. I saw two officials coming out of the field house with their clothes heading to the car.
I good naturally said "guys, don't leave there is another half of the game". With a laugh one of the two said in reply, "with what is about to happen we want to be ready to get out of here".

I really did not think much about it, neither of these two officials were the tall African American official nor the White Hat Official. BUT it did not take long in the second half to understand what was going on. It was not the whole crew, rather it was those two officials that controlled the game and the outcome.

Did Mt Airy lose their composure? Sure. They had not had but two or three Unsportsman calls in the 13 prior games. But if JK had not stood up for his team and players, I can just hear what his "haters" would be saying. I have no issue with what he did except he did not take his players off the field.

And so much has been said about the kid throwing the shoe off the field. Do you remember that NO ONE was coming to get the shoe. And the team was getting back into formation. He did not "throw it", he tossed it to the Mitchell sideline. That was unsportsman?

NO, that was another example of the officials not doing their dam job.

At the end of the game, those OFFICIALS did not walk off the field, they did not trot off the field, THEY RAN OFF THE FIELD LIKE THE THEIVES THEY WERE.

It was many many years ago, my Father was a High School Basketball coach and had a great team. One night in a game the horrendous calls were just unbelievable, against the other team. Finally, shortly in the 3rd quarter, my Father called timeout, went to the other teams head coach and said, this is disgraceful, if you want, we will stop play or we will tell the officials to leave and you and I will call the rest of the game. They played the rest of the game without the officials.

Their is a thing called Integrity. Every once in a while it should come into play in sports as in life.

They aren't supposed to walk off the field. Find another complaint.