Going to be an interesting matchup. Both teams are playing good ball. Any thoughts with this game.
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Butler was seeded as a six seed and played who was in front of them. I think they were under seeded hypothetically if Butler was moved up to a three seed, theoretically wouldn’t they still be rolling teams up to this point now? If Butler played Weddington instead of Independence most people would lean Butler. I think it would be tough just like Butler playing Independence.Butler has had the easiest road to the 4A Title..The best team they played was an #11 seed and I'm not sure West Forsyth was a legit #11. I think they struggle a lil' bit and pull out a late win 29-28 over Indy.
Football is all about matchups. Butlers oline has completely dominated teams all season. Indy doesn't have anyone on their starting dline over the weight of 230 on their dline. Indy had to stack the box because of this and still struggled to stop the run. Butler has proven to be able to air the ball out when they need to. Weather that be to #4, #17, #14, #11, and #3 they have a balanced attack. Hales and Stone might be the best coaching duo in the state by far. The way they completely out coached the Langston Hughes coaching staff makes me believe they can beat anyone in the state. I just don't see this game being any more closer than 14 pts.Butler has had the easiest road to the 4A Title..The best team they played was an #11 seed and I'm not sure West Forsyth was a legit #11. I think they struggle a lil' bit and pull out a late win 29-28 over Indy.
Did Rollesville handle BUTLER 🤭Football is all about matchups. Butlers oline has completely dominated teams all season. Indy doesn't have anyone on their starting dline over the weight of 230 on their dline. Indy had to stack the box because of this and still struggled to stop the run. Butler has proven to be able to air the ball out when they need to. Weather that be to #4, #17, #14, #11, and #3 they have a balanced attack. Hales and Stone might be the best coaching duo in the state by far. The way they completely out coached the Langston Hughes coaching staff makes me believe they can beat anyone in the state. I just don't see this game being any more closer than 14 pts.
Butler was missing several players including their most dynamic offensive weapon #4. Butler had multiple goal to go opportunities to take the lead and win the game, but due to a 3 interceptions including a pick 6 and a muffed punt that didn’t happen. Butler held arguably the 2nd best offense putting up nearly 50+ pts a game to just 14. Rolesville is a great team and my pick to come out the east, but butler wins that game 9 times out of 10.Did Rollesville handle BUTLER 🤭
This was at Memorial from 2002 till about 2012. There were some years where Memorial Stadium was going through renovations so it was moved to Providence. My understanding is Butler requested this to be played at home to keep the home field advantage.Unless Mecklenburg parks changes it will never be Memorial Stadium anymore. The only high school games will have to be sponsored events. Meck wants 35-40K to rent out Memorial.
Hales said that loss was a blessing because it made the message a lot louder. Butler has to play focused and not take a plays off. To hold the second best offense to 14 points with starters missing in hindsight is really impressive.Butler was missing several players including their most dynamic offensive weapon #4. Butler had multiple goal to go opportunities to take the lead and win the game, but due to a 3 interceptions including a pick 6 and a muffed punt that didn’t happen. Butler held arguably the 2nd best offense putting up nearly 50+ pts a game to just 14. Rolesville is a great team and my pick to come out the east, but butler wins that game 9 times out of 10.
Players being hurt is part of the game next man up. Rolesville held alot against grimsley ! Thats the reason for the massive yards . Some refrees literally stand there see it and wont call nothing at all . That white hat friday didnt throw one flag ..... If Rolesville lucky enough they play grimsley again same result.Butler was missing several players including their most dynamic offensive weapon #4. Butler had multiple goal to go opportunities to take the lead and win the game, but due to a 3 interceptions including a pick 6 and a muffed punt that didn’t happen. Butler held arguably the 2nd best offense putting up nearly 50+ pts a game to just 14. Rolesville is a great team and my pick to come out the east, but butler wins that game 9 times out of 10.
Think 2009 regional final at Providence was the last time these two teams played at a neutral site. The regular season game was played at Indy and required pre-purchase tickets in line. It was packed and what a game.This was at Memorial from 2002 till about 2012. There were some years where Memorial Stadium was going through renovations so it was moved to Providence. My understanding is Butler requested this to be played at home to keep the home field advantage.
Meck games don’t seem to be the sameThink 2009 regional final at Providence was the last time these two teams played at a neutral site. The regular season game was played at Indy and required pre-purchase tickets in line. It was packed and what a game.
The game at Providence was amazing. Butler finally beat Indy in the playoffs and it was a blowout. The atmosphere was electric. It was Knotts last game at Indy.Think 2009 regional final at Providence was the last time these two teams played at a neutral site. The regular season game was played at Indy and required pre-purchase tickets in line. It was packed and what a game.
Indy had the ball on the one going in for the score. RB had ball knocked out of his hands going over the top and ball got kicked back out to about the 30. That was a huge momentum swing. Butler dominated the second half winning by three TDs. That was the first year Butler really dominated the line of scrimmage against Indy.The game at Providence was amazing. Butler finally beat Indy in the playoffs and it was a blowout. The atmosphere was electric. It was Knotts last game at Indy.
Indy had the ball on the one going in for the score. RB had ball knocked out of his hands going over the top and ball got kicked back out to about the 30. That was a huge momentum swing. Butler dominated the second half winning by three TDs. That was the first year Butler really dominated the line of scrimmage against Indy.
I had that feeling and I was correct although I thought Butler would win in a close one. Indy wanted it moreI much rather travel up the mountain to play Watauga than play Independence at home. I think it’s tough to beat a good team twice. I think back to when Mallard Creek, Hough or Chambers would play each other during the regular season only to lose the rematch during the playoffs.
I think Independence has nothing to lose and can play free and aggressive because they would be the underdog. This game probably worries me more than the Grimsley/Weddington winner if Butler were to advance.
I agree, but the Independence defense played better than I thought they could, and deserve a lot of credit. I thought it would be a high scoring shoot out, but somehow the Independence defense hung in for 48 minutes.Congratulations to Indy, I had a funny feeling about this game because of the rivalry and it’s hard to beat a good team twice.
A wasted effort from Butler’s defense, the offense let them down.
Agreed. This game reminded me a lot of the rolesville loss. Defense held a very good offense to 10, but the offense just couldn’t get going. Oline just simply didn’t dominate like they did the first time and I think that’s was the game changer. I thought indy would really come out and commit to the run a lot more than they did the first game and that’s what they did. I think Butler did a fairly good job stopping any runs up the middle, but they struggled setting the edge and #21 Jones popped a few long runs. Indy also utilized #7 Little’s legs a lot more this time around, which combined with #21 Jones who ran angry really helped control the time of possession. I think overall, Butlers defense played about as well as you can ask. The offense just really could not get anything to consistently work. Credit to the patriot defense and the entire coaching staff. I truly believe this was Butlers best chance to add ring #4 for at least the next 3-4 years. Especially now considering weddington handled grimsley. I thought Butler matched up very well with weddington and could beat them again, but we’ll never know for sure. Honestly just glad to see this rivalry return to its glory days. Congratulations to Independence on a huge win.Congratulations to Indy, I had a funny feeling about this game because of the rivalry and it’s hard to beat a good team twice.
A wasted effort from Butler’s defense, the offense let them down.
Yeah i agree they kinda blew a chance at ring number four and they will look back at this as a missed opportunity. Butler had the defense to win it all this year it sucks that the offense let them down which is typically a strength for Butler.Agreed. This game reminded me a lot of the rolesville loss. Defense held a very good offense to 10, but the offense just couldn’t get going. Oline just simply didn’t dominate like they did the first time and I think that’s was the game changer. I thought indy would really come out and commit to the run a lot more than they did the first game and that’s what they did. I think Butler did a fairly good job stopping any runs up the middle, but they struggled setting the edge and #21 Jones popped a few long runs. Indy also utilized #7 Little’s legs a lot more this time around, which combined with #21 Jones who ran angry really helped control the time of possession. I think overall, Butlers defense played about as well as you can ask. The offense just really could not get anything to consistently work. Credit to the patriot defense and the entire coaching staff. I truly believe this was Butlers best chance to add ring #4 for at least the next 3-4 years. Especially now considering weddington handled grimsley. I thought Butler matched up very well with weddington and could beat them again, but we’ll never know for sure. Honestly just glad to see this rivalry return to its glory days. Congratulations to Independence on a huge win.
You sure seem to always pick games well.... Why dont u ever enter any pick em contests? Every week I see you say well I only missed one or two games this week... And im like dang this guy is goodCongratulations to Independence. I missed this call. But only one other than the Grimsley game which I’m not surprised Weddington won.
Thanks. I may well enter the contest next year.You sure seem to always pick games well.... Why dont u ever enter any pick em contests? Every week I see you say well I only missed one or two games this week... And im like dang this guy is good
Good to see you scope. That play confused me too. From my understanding if the ball is blocked beyond the LOS(forward) and the blocking team does not touch it its dead and goes as blocked kick. If the ball is blocked and it goed behind the LOS its a live ball and the offense or defense can pick it up and run. In this situation the refs discussed it and correct call was made. When i saw it i said Indy cant advance it. The ball was blocked forwardRules question.
Independence tries field goal which is blocked by Butler and the ball rolls about 2 or 3 yards beyond line of scrimmage where is is picked up by Independence player and advanced into the end zone. There was apparently no whistle and the official nearest the play clearly signaled TD Independence. (If it matters, I don't believe the ball was touched by a Butler player after the kick was blocked.) After protests by Butler coach and much discussion among the officials the call was reversed, the TD was waved off, and possession was given to Butler. It appeared very obvious that the officials did not know the rule.
In what appears to be an abandoned area of this site called "Ask the Ref" two similar situations were discussed and in both cases it said TD's WERE ALLOWED for the kicking team.
Any comments?
Scotland 2018 beat the #7, #2,#3,#1 seeds all on the road back to backIndependence 10 Butler 7 Final
I wonder how many teams have played 4 road games in the playoffs and made it to the final 4? This is likely the first time that has ever happened.
Thanks for the clarification.Good to see you scope. That play confused me too. From my understanding if the ball is blocked beyond the LOS(forward) and the blocking team does not touch it its dead and goes as blocked kick. If the ball is blocked and it goed behind the LOS its a live ball and the offense or defense can pick it up and run. In this situation the refs discussed it and correct call was made. When i saw it i said Indy cant advance it. The ball was blocked forward
So not only has it happened before, it wasn't even that long ago.Scotland 2018 beat the #7, #2,#3,#1 seeds all on the road back to back
then lost 35-28 to east forsyth in the championship game, the first three
of those game all went to the final 30 seconds before being decided, then shutout 71st in regional final after losing to them during the year, then the title game that was close all the way..
one less round but 4 road wins and made the title game after finishing year
5-5