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Pisgah @ Brevard

Looks like Pisgah is going to lose. Congratulations to Brevard for a great comeback season. Don't see us going far in the playoffs with the last three defensive showings. Don't understand our sorry zone. I also don't get why our best qb doesn't get the start and move current qb to back, and one of our best receivers hasn't been playing up all year.
That is the easiest thing to understand. What else WOULD they play in the secondary? They have jusr ran into teams the last 3 weeks that pass as much as they run, which up until that time PHS hadnt seen. You need to remember PHS is 10-1 (9-1 for playoff seeding purposes) despite playing poorly and still on the field at Pisgah after the Tuscola game. Maybe this will be the wake up call that PHS needs to understand that ALL games are important, not just one per year.
 
Congrats Brevard! Best QB we've seen all year. Brevard should make a little noise in the playoffs. Pisgah had it's opportunities to win but fell short. Turnovers were the difference tonight. Maybe with this loss this will get the pressure off and Pisgah will start playing ball again. Seems like they've been in a funk since the Tuscola game. Good luck to everyone in the playoffs. Go WNC!
 
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You and the other mountie guys are the ones that seems obsessed with the Bears winning .Since you keep bringing it up.
Noticed you never mention a word about the seeding in the playoffs.So evidently you learned something from my other post.I never said they would make it to another rematch .Just said what had to happen.
So you keep mentioning the game 3 weeks ago, Pisgah has not been the same team since that REALLY IMPORTANT game with Tuscola, while the Mountaineers are arguably the class of WNC and "Tuscola guys are obsessed?" You sure left it all on the field down there, thats for sure. Trouble is that wasnt the end of the season, and,when you needed it, it was STILL on that field 3 weeks ago. As for seeding it makes no difference if it is one and out. Then you will get another lesson and a reminder that one game is just as important as the others and no more.
 
That is the easiest thing to understand. What else WOULD they play in the secondary? They have jusr ran into teams the last 3 weeks that pass as much as they run, which up until that time PHS hadnt seen. You need to remember PHS is 10-1 (9-1 for playoff seeding purposes) despite playing poorly and still on the field at Pisgah after the Tuscola game. Maybe this will be the wake up call that PHS needs to understand that ALL games are important, not just one per year.

Your lack of football knowledge baffles me in how you're able to fill an entire article in the newspaper.
 
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P.S. This isn't the only time I've posted this year, just the only game I've missed due to basketball, and had time to post. I've been on here for about 11 years. Don't recall your name being here that long ago.

So let me get this right. You're on here criticizing our coaches after a game you didn't even attend? How in the world can you even comment if you weren't even there to watch the game? Fans like you are the worst. If you're not going to at least show up, then don't come on here complaining about something you don't even care enough to attend. Coach Chappel and his staff do a great job and have done an awesome job with these boys.
 
P.S. This isn't the only time I've posted this year, just the only game I've missed due to basketball, and had time to post. I've been on here for about 11 years. Don't recall your name being here that long ago.

So let me get this right. You're on here criticizing our coaches after a game you didn't even attend? How in the world can you even comment if you weren't even there to watch the game? Fans like you are the worst. If you're not going to at least show up, then don't come on here complaining about something you don't even care enough to attend. Coach Chappel and his staff do a great job and have done an awesome job with these boys.
Douche bag,

My daughter had a scrimmage last night. First game I've missed all year and haven't missed one before that in three years. I've been a season ticket holder for 17 years, since graduating college. I think we have a great group of coaches, while I don't agree with having a college student running the defense. I also question the quarterback choice. Sorry, my opinion. I strongly believe we could go deep in the playoffs if we had the other option starting. If that makes me the "worst" fan, so be it.
 
So you keep mentioning the game 3 weeks ago, Pisgah has not been the same team since that REALLY IMPORTANT game with Tuscola, while the Mountaineers are arguably the class of WNC and "Tuscola guys are obsessed?" You sure left it all on the field down there, thats for sure. Trouble is that wasnt the end of the season, and,when you needed it, it was STILL on that field 3 weeks ago. As for seeding it makes no difference if it is one and out. Then you will get another lesson and a reminder that one game is just as important as the others and no more.


"class of WNC" once again, thats kinda like being the tallest midget
 
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I really haven't posted on here much but I have read this forum for years. The up the river specialist from Pisgah come on here and continually talk about beating Tuscola and I think that is wonderful for small minded people. Your support is a blind as a Hillary fan even when you have a coach who coaches for one game a year and then regresses the rest of the season, you still think he is Bobby Bowden. Tuscola has a coach who thinks anything less than a regional final is sub par. But that is expectations based on a proven commodity,(ie. done it before) where as your coach who acts like he has never been there before says things on TV like P stands for physical, Mill Tough, this game is still important on this end of the county and any other cliche' he can steal from Butch Jones. Seems your 'Mill Tough" defense has given up more yardage in three weeks than an Asheville School versus Shelby game. I am not mentioning you lose to a team Tuscola had 42 - 0 at halftime. You won the battle, but maybe you need to concentrate more on actually winning the war. But that is what an immature coach focuses on that has not found his way yet and he has a Jim Walter's fanbase that doesn't know any better and buys into this crap. Good luck in the first round against a spread option team from down the mountain when you can't cover a flea with a army blanket. But does it really matter, because you have won four in a row in a game that reallly doesn't matter in the big scheme of things anymore. It has been evident for years, that Waynesville is a changing demographic that has evolved while you are stuck in a 1970's that is no longer reality. I thought you were the most overrated 10-0 team in high school football history. I was wrong, you are the most overrated 10-1 team in high school history. Just the opinions of a neutral observer. Congrats to Brevard, glad to see you guys back.
Exactly right .
 
Pisgah fumbled twice inside the 10. Playing a linebacker and corner with casts on their hands. So holding a team that was scoring 40+ points a game to 23 ain't to bad. Just gotta quit killing ourselves with penalties and turnovers. Ball isn't a loaf of bread.
 
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lets go ahead and get it out of the way. tuscola is not the class of the mountains
I dont know what division ACR is in this year as I haven't looked yet. if they are small 3a maybe we can find out? If not, all we have are records to compare. Would you say that is accurate? So lets get THIS out of the way. While this isnt the case every year for WNC teams, ALL of them, including ACR, this THS team THIS year I believe can play with ANY team in WNC, including ACR.
 
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I thought Brevard was going to beat itself with penalties. They couldn't get out of their own way and had 9 in the 1st half alone.
 
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i have no doubt tuscola could play with us. beat us hmm doubt it. but you never know till they play . and were big 3a and i hope you guys are too.would be a fun game. ill stand by my assessment though. im not sayin acr is the best in the mountains but i think there are 3 or 4 teams that wud give your team fits.
 
Tuscola will be in the MAC next year so we will have the debate settled each year for at least the next 4 years on the field.
 
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Congrats to Brevard. Great game, they made the plays they needed to make, and we made too many mistakes. It was the second best atmosphere for a game that we have seen all year. Good luck to all WNC teams heading into the playoffs.
 
You don't want me to try it. You'd be out of a job and we have enough people unemployed.
Thats Ok Dont worry about me...I will muddle along somehow. I tell you what, I will contact the Godfather on your behalf tomorrow and tell him you want to write a sports article on the very next game for Tuscola. (Pisgah already has a good writer, they dont need you for that.) Send your name and contact information to sports@themountaineer..com. and I will make that happen for you. Talk is cheap. Here is your chance to do something OTHER than talk.
UPDATE: I talked to the Godfather on the phone just now and you are good to go. At least from this end.
 
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Tuscola will be in the MAC next year so we will have the debate settled each year for at least the next 4 years on the field.
ACR should win 3 of 4 at least. If they do not, they will have underachieved. And in the process THS will suffer financially as well. This forced move was not a good one for THS in the opinion of many.
 
ACR should win 3 of 4 at least. If they do not, they will have underachieved. And in the process THS will suffer financially as well. This forced move was not a good one for THS in the opinion of many.

Just curious why should ACR win 3 of 4? I thought THS was on our level, now if we lose to THS we're underachievers. One THS fan said they were the class of WNC now, and I read on another board how doninate their JV program was this year, sounds like you are selling THS short.
 
Just curious why should ACR win 3 of 4? I thought THS was on our level, now if we lose to THS we're underachievers. One THS fan said they were the class of WNC now, and I read on another board how doninate their JV program was this year, sounds like you are selling THS short.
While this isnt the case every year for WNC teams, ALL of them, including ACR, this THS team THIS year I believe can play with ANY team in WNC, including ACR.
 
Thats Ok Dont worry about me...I will muddle along somehow. I tell you what, I will contact the Godfather on your behalf tomorrow and tell him you want to write a sports article on the very next game for Tuscola. (Pisgah already has a good writer, they dont need you for that.) Send your name and contact information to sports@themountaineer..com. and I will make that happen for you. Talk is cheap. Here is your chance to do something OTHER than talk.
UPDATE: I talked to the Godfather on the phone just now and you are good to go. At least from this end.
Well????????
 
Just curious why should ACR win 3 of 4? I thought THS was on our level, now if we lose to THS we're underachievers. One THS fan said they were the class of WNC now, and I read on another board how doninate their JV program was this year, sounds like you are selling THS short.

Where, anywhere, did you read, think, fart, imagine that Tuscola is on Reynolds level? You're just making $#!t up out of thin air to jump on some perceived, non-existent slight. I believe the statement was that Tuscola was the class of the conference, meaning the current conference they currently inhabit, not the one you are in or we used to be in.

I remember the last time we played there and it wasn't pretty. I see the next 4 years as middle of the pack at best, maybe a 3rd place finish in there somewhere. We'll lose at the gate just like Mule said and then pray that the NCHSAA figures out something else the next go-round.
 
Where, anywhere, did you read, think, fart, imagine that Tuscola is on Reynolds level? You're just making $#!t up out of thin air to jump on some perceived, non-existent slight. I believe the statement was that Tuscola was the class of the conference, meaning the current conference they currently inhabit, not the one you are in or we used to be in.

So you keep mentioning the game 3 weeks ago, Pisgah has not been the same team since that REALLY IMPORTANT game with Tuscola, while the Mountaineers are arguably the class of WNC...

Oh look right there is where it was said...."class of WNC"
 
I remember ACR losing LOTS at the gate when we were put in the NW4A for 8 years, traveling to Watauga, Alexander Central, South Caldwell, Freedom and such so I'm pretty sure traveling to Buncombe Co will not kill THS.
 
Well Mule,

For someone who says we are dwelling on beating Tuscola, you sure seem to concern yourself alot with what is going on the Pisgah boards. You compose way more posts here then you do in their forums. Like I said, I don't want to steal your job. Thanks for the offer, but I'll stick to my day job.
 
I remember ACR losing LOTS at the gate when we were put in the NW4A for 8 years, traveling to Watauga, Alexander Central, South Caldwell, Freedom and such so I'm pretty sure traveling to Buncombe Co will not kill THS.
We do get home games too. Some of your Buncombe folks won't drive across town. They sure won't get on 40 West.

As for Class of WNC, that's Mule's opinion. Pearson ranked us #2 behind you all so unless "class" is a solitary spot then I don't see it as any damage to the Rockets esteemed since of accomplishment.
 
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Where, anywhere, did you read, think, fart, imagine that Tuscola is on Reynolds level? You're just making $#!t up out of thin air to jump on some perceived, non-existent slight. I believe the statement was that Tuscola was the class of the conference, meaning the current conference they currently inhabit, not the one you are in or we used to be in.

I remember the last time we played there and it wasn't pretty. I see the next 4 years as middle of the pack at best, maybe a 3rd place finish in there somewhere. We'll lose at the gate just like Mule said and then pray that the NCHSAA figures out something else the next go-round.
I remember the last time we played there and it wasn't pretty I saw the same game, I was there. And you are right! It sure wasn't pretty if you are an ACR fan. I remember a 17-14 THS win in 2008. IS THAT the one you remember? It must be, because the two teams haven't played SINCE that year. (If you want to believe your own site gobiggreen.net) BUT, your point is well taken. On a regular basis, IN FACT, not opinion, ACR will win 3-1 or better. THIS year Tuscola is again, going by stats, records any other measure you would like to use, IS on the level of ACR or any Buncombe county school. But it is a weak year in the MAC, I will allow that too. Finally, should Tuscola play in a league they can not compete in on a regular basis, and take a loss in revenue at the same time.? ACR wont bring 50 fans to Waynesville, and THS doesnt have a a Buncombe silver spoon to draw from over here.
 
We do get home games too. Some of your Buncombe folks won't drive across town. They sure won't get on 40 West.

As for Class of WNC, that's Mule's opinion. Pearson ranked us #2 behind you all so unless "class" is a solitary spot then I don't see it as any damage to the Rockets esteemed since of accomplishment.
Not to mention, the fact that I said: Tuscola, while the Mountaineers are arguably the class of WNC. The key word is underlined italicized and bold. I stand by that statement when speaking of THIS year. ACR is ranked above THS but they are by no means a juggernaut THIS YEAR, and points can be made for EITHER argument. ACR can point to a "tougher schedule," correct...but didn't they LOSE all of those "tougher non-conference games they played? and pretty convincingly? " It can be argued that THS played a "weak" non-conference schedule." But did they not dispatch all of those opponents with the proper vigor to be considered a worthy contender for consideration? At any rate Bluevols I believe is correct...My objection to moving to the MAC is not only for competitive reasons. THS could reasonably be able to compete with some of the teams on a regular basis, but some not so much. But where THS will hurt will be in revenue loss. WTF do you think they stopped the series with ACR and Asheville? Because they cant beat them? Hell, EAST HENDERSON draws better than either of those top flight Buncombe county programs. And that sure aint saying much. Or could it be that Swain/SM or Murphy (a good pickup for Pisgah next year) fills the visiting bleachers while neither AVL NOR ACR bring enough fans to pay the referees, whether they are 11-0 or 0-11. It is what it is. Bottom line: The success of either team this year does not come at the expense of the other.
 
Well Mule,

For someone who says we are dwelling on beating Tuscola, you sure seem to concern yourself alot with what is going on the Pisgah boards. You compose way more posts here then you do in their forums. Like I said, I don't want to steal your job. Thanks for the offer, but I'll stick to my day job.
I understand. Some are better armchair QBS than a real ones. Some better at criticizing others than showing us how it is done. I guess that applies to journalism too." Ill call the GF and inform him you decided you aren't up to the task.
 
I understand. Some are better armchair QBS than a real ones. Some better at criticizing others than showing us how it is done. I guess that applies to journalism too." Ill call the GF and inform him you decided you aren't up to the task.
Mule two questions .Why would any Pisgah fan want to cover any thing about Tuscola. Second,why would any Tuscola supporter want a Pisgah fan to report about Tuscola sports?
I mean less face it .You could only write 'Tuscola sucks" so many times before the Tuscola fans would stop reading the Waynesville rag.
 
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I really haven't posted on here much but I have read this forum for years. The up the river specialist from Pisgah come on here and continually talk about beating Tuscola and I think that is wonderful for small minded people. Your support is a blind as a Hillary fan even when you have a coach who coaches for one game a year and then regresses the rest of the season, you still think he is Bobby Bowden. Tuscola has a coach who thinks anything less than a regional final is sub par. But that is expectations based on a proven commodity,(ie. done it before) where as your coach who acts like he has never been there before says things on TV like P stands for physical, Mill Tough, this game is still important on this end of the county and any other cliche' he can steal from Butch Jones. Seems your 'Mill Tough" defense has given up more yardage in three weeks than an Asheville School versus Shelby game. I am not mentioning you lose to a team Tuscola had 42 - 0 at halftime. You won the battle, but maybe you need to concentrate more on actually winning the war. But that is what an immature coach focuses on that has not found his way yet and he has a Jim Walter's fanbase that doesn't know any better and buys into this crap. Good luck in the first round against a spread option team from down the mountain when you can't cover a flea with a army blanket. But does it really matter, because you have won four in a row in a game that reallly doesn't matter in the big scheme of things anymore. It has been evident for years, that Waynesville is a changing demographic that has evolved while you are stuck in a 1970's that is no longer reality. I thought you were the most overrated 10-0 team in high school football history. I was wrong, you are the most overrated 10-1 team in high school history. Just the opinions of a neutral observer. Congrats to Brevard, glad to see you guys back.

It's amazing to me how many DA Tuscola fans (and DA "neutral observers) continue to downplay a 50 year old rivalry that is tied at 26-26-1. If you had won 4 straight games in the series, you would be crowing from the highest roof top at dawn every morning. The Tuscola fan base can't hold a burnt out candle to the community support that Pisgah and its students and athletes receive. The lack of loyalty to THS from the "changing demographic" has seen to that. The fact that you think the game doesn't matter anymore is evidence that you don't have any thoughts that are based in reality of tha game, the tradition, or the community at all.
 
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Mule two questions .Why would any Pisgah fan want to cover any thing about Tuscola. Second,why would any Tuscola supporter want a Pisgah fan to report about Tuscola sports?
I mean less face it .You could only write 'Tuscola sucks" so many times before the Tuscola fans would stop reading the Waynesville rag.
Mule two questions .Why would any Pisgah fan want to cover any thing about Tuscola. Second,why would any Tuscola supporter want a Pisgah fan to report about Tuscola sports?
I mean less face it .You could only write 'Tuscola sucks" so many times before the Tuscola fans would stop reading the Waynesville rag.
I am a Pisgah alumni, At Tuscola there Pisgah alumni working on the hill and doing a great job without prejudice. Its called at this point....A JOB. Lest you forget, I will remind you: The Mountaineer newspaper, contrary to popular opinion, is a NEWSPAPER, it is not a media guide for EITHER school. That entity owes no allegiance to any school. Neither do I. There is a JOB to do, and NO THS coach has ever had a problem, or even has asked where I went to high school DECADES AGO. I have found that THS has just as many good coaches, admin is top notch, and the players, one could not ask for more. Wouldnt swap any of them for anybody anywhere else. Things are on the right track at THS. Further, the old guard is all but gone at Tuscola and a new attitude is arriving free of built in prejudice. Finally, when one becomes an adult, there comes a time to put away childish notions prejudices and habits. Seems some of you have forgotten this.
 
It's amazing to me how many DA Tuscola fans (and DA "neutral observers) continue to downplay a 50 year old rivalry that is tied at 26-26-1. .

Thats ONE way to look at it, would you like another? It took Pisgah 50 years to TIE the record. That's a long time isnt it? It appears that you still haven't got the idea that while the THS PHS game IS important to THS, it is EVERYTHING to PHS and the Canton community, which may be unhealthy in and of itself. When PHS fans, players, etc walked off that field three weeks ago your season was complete. And it has shown in the play since that time. Tuscola was disappointed in the loss of course, but realized that it was ONE GAME in a season with still much to play for. So here we are in the end of the regular season, one team going down hill fast, and the other just peaking at the right time. What have you gained at the end of the day? What advantage? PHS is no more of a conference champion than Tuscola, and a very pleasant surprise in Brevard (proud of that for them.) All three teams will play at home in the playoffs, at least one game. Now the question is will Pisgah field a playoff team like the one that gave up 70 points in the first 8 games COMBINED, or will it be the Pisgah team of the last three games, where they have given up 90 points and torched for 811 years in passing yardage alone when they take the field? But one thing is for certain....You did win a "really big game" against Tuscola. It is a shame that wont help you much in the playoffs. But it (arguably) DID help Tuscola.
 
Thats ONE way to look at it, would you like another? It took Pisgah 50 years to TIE the record. That's a long time isnt it? It appears that you still haven't got the idea that while the THS PHS game IS important to THS, it is EVERYTHING to PHS and the Canton community, which may be unhealthy in and of itself. When PHS fans, players, etc walked off that field three weeks ago your season was complete. And it has shown in the play since that time. Tuscola was disappointed in the loss of course, but realized that it was ONE GAME in a season with still much to play for. So here we are in the end of the regular season, one team going down hill fast, and the other just peaking at the right time. What have you gained at the end of the day? What advantage? PHS is no more of a conference champion than Tuscola, and a very pleasant surprise in Brevard (proud of that for them.) All three teams will play at home in the playoffs, at least one game. Now the question is will Pisgah field a playoff team like the one that gave up 70 points in the first 8 games COMBINED, or will it be the Pisgah team of the last three games, where they have given up 90 points and torched for 811 years in passing yardage alone when they take the field? But one thing is for certain....You did win a "really big game" against Tuscola. It is a shame that wont help you much in the playoffs. But it (arguably) DID help Tuscola.

I think we need to agree to disagree. I hope for your sake you are right. With THS moving to the MAC next year, this might be the last, best chance for the Mounties to make a deep run in the playoffs. Road out of the MAC will be tougher, and I foresee a reduction in gate receipts as well. Keeping Smoky and Pisgah as non-conference games help every other year, losing Franklin and Brevard definitely hurt. North, West, and most of the MAC won't travel well at all.
 
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