This is why it is hard for ppl to respects robbinsville. You whine. You think if Murphy moves up you will finally have the big giant out of your way so you can go to state four years in a row. It's murphy who oppresses you and takes things from you that "you rightfully deserve" . You win a state champion ship and this is how you act right after it? Ppl from Murphy were even congratulating you (which trust me is like tasting vinegar) and then spit in their face with cheating and infiltrating a state athletic system. The arrogance of claiming that the NCHSAA doesn't see what the individuals from robbinsville "clearly see" is so absurd and incomprehensible. Calling our coach out and degrading him constantly claiming our school system is immoral and outsmarting a state system. Enough is enough. You ask to be treated with respected like swain and Murphy....you win a state championship which is a good step in doing so then you say comments like this totally discrediting any respect from this part mountain. So over seeing the blanent lies and accusations.
Murphy needs a game
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please do tell all these classless statements and accusations I've made about Robbinsville, you can't because it never happened. The one accusation was a fact, just because I mentioned the wrong number never changed that. I apologized for it, so get over it. I tried to be civil with you but you're clearly another one of the
knight of old came into a thread that had NOTHING to do with Robbinsville and started running his pie hole about recruiting and everything else. one thing you didn't find is anybody from Murphy jumping into any Robbinsville threads after they won their title and bad mouthing them, you found people congratulating them. Thanks to kinght of old, you and a couple other it's back to business as usual though. Too bad some of you ruin it for the Robbinsville posters that aren't clowns.
Let me get this straight....If I understand some of the above posts,no family should move to the Murphy school district with high school age kids that play football because Robbinsville doesn't like it ?
That is some strange logic.
That is some strange logic.
Originally posted by Knight-of-old:
FACTS??????? I want names and numbers of the Murphy players this year who go to HD. I want proof that Murphy "sends" kids to the EC just to keep their numbers down. Go on. Prove it! Jack!Originally posted by NC nole fan:
Originally posted by Knight-of-old:
Don't tell me Murphy has found yet another way to Recruit more players with out having to clam any more on their ADM's. Total crock of $#!* that they get players from all over and don't count the ADM's of their talent base.
Mule-boy, Tuscola don't want none of the SMC.Just the facts Jack. Just because we put together a great team one year and overcame the #'s does not mean it is an even playing field.
Don't lie, I didn't say anything about legit transfers. Though you do live in a county that allows open enrollment and everyone knows the precedent, if a kids really has football talent from Andrews then He goes to Murphy. Remember any of those?
Murphy should have to claim the Kids from Hiwassee Dam Highs School because they are allowed to play football at Murphy and gives Murphy sole access to that talent pool. Did you not have players from Hiwassee Dam on the team this year?
I am saying that Murphy exploits loopholes in the ADM process (I call it dishonest and cheating) and that is the reason Murphy can compete for the SMC Championship every year. If you claimed all the kids from the talent pool you draw from you would have 2A maybe even 3A #'s.
I understand the "Casino" expansion plan If Murphy #s grow sluff off a few more non-athletes to the early college... Problem solved..
I don't know why the NCHSAA turns a blind eye to this and allows Murphy to continue to beat their chest and try to bully smaller schools around. I guess it has something to do with forcing Murphy to travel to schools their own size.
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Hey while you're at it, why don't you go ahead and lump Swain into this big conspiracy as well! How many players from Cherokee have played for the devils lately?? Is Swain cheating too?? Should they have to count every student at Cherokee into their enrollment since a few Cherokee kids transferred to Swain? Should they have to count Robbinsville's enrollment too because McCoy transferred there from Robbinsville? This is hilarious coming from a Robbinsville fan. I've heard for my entire life that Robbinsville wrote the book on recruiting when Phillips and Jordan was in it's heyday in the 70s and early 80s. I always heard that if you worked for that company and you had a son, you moved to Robbinsville! Now I can't prove that and I don't know how much truth there is to it, but me saying it is no different than you throwing out baseless accusations about Murphy!
You got it! Man oh man how I wish Murphy could have stayed healthy this year! Gonna be a LONG off season listening to these clowns!
Good Grief, Dogman 35, mbd, pollo, ncnole,
"This is why it is hard for ppl to respects robbinsville. You whine."
So you have lost respect for Robbinsville (town, school, team, coaches???) all because of two or three posters on a message board pi$$ you off. LMAO You people need to get out more ... There's a few more folks in Rville than the ones that post on the message boards.
"This is why it is hard for ppl to respects robbinsville. You whine."
So you have lost respect for Robbinsville (town, school, team, coaches???) all because of two or three posters on a message board pi$$ you off. LMAO You people need to get out more ... There's a few more folks in Rville than the ones that post on the message boards.
Ill still be pulling for yall even after 2016. I always pull for the Bulldogs except what used to be the last game of the regular season.Originally posted by mbdfan:
lol could be gal, you've got a good reason to be cheering for us though, at least you will be free of that obligation after next season my friend. perhaps 2016 will be injury free after all
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When people bring up the P and J recruiting thing it shows that they know nothing about the construction business. P and J employees didn't move to Robbinsville, where the headquarters were located, unless they were an accountant, a surveyor, or a secretary ... that's was the only people in the office!!!!! Construction "workers" go where the frickin job sites are ... Georgia, Florida, etc. So let me be clear, P and J never recruited anybody to play for Rville except Andy Jordan, Eddie Phillips, and Teddy Phillips, sons and nephew.
Last year, when I had this same tired argument, I ask anyone to name anybody that ever play for Rville that moved to Rville because of P and J. Somebody threw out the name of Marty Reagan ... he actually moved to Robbinsville when he was in the third grade, and I think his dad may have worked at the furniture factory instead of P and J.
FACTS???
Does Murphy send kids to EC? No, they choose to go there on their own.
If the EC did not exist where would those kids go to school? Murphy, HD, Andrews, Hayesville, etc.
Would the kids that go to EC ever play football? Probably not
Since the EC does exist - Does having kids that would normally be attending other schools (Murphy, Andrews, HD, Hayesville), and who probably would never play football, help when ADMs are counted? Yes
Was the EC established because Gentry wanted to lower his ADM numbers? No, even though Gentry is adored, I don't think that he was able to bring the EC into being.
Is there anything that anybody can do about any of this? No - the EC is here to stay.
FOLKS, THIS IS NOT A GRIPE, WHINE, OR COMPLAINT - IT IS THE FACTS!!!!!
Robbinsville posters you need to deal with this FACT OF LIFE and move on.
Murphy posters just need to acknowledge that having the EC is somewhat beneficial to ADMs and move on.
I for one appreciated all of the SMC and WNC posters that came on here and congratulated us on the championship. This has been a great football season for the Knights and I am going to enjoy this one for a while. I think I may have to have surgery to remove this smile from my face.
Last year, when I had this same tired argument, I ask anyone to name anybody that ever play for Rville that moved to Rville because of P and J. Somebody threw out the name of Marty Reagan ... he actually moved to Robbinsville when he was in the third grade, and I think his dad may have worked at the furniture factory instead of P and J.
FACTS???
Does Murphy send kids to EC? No, they choose to go there on their own.
If the EC did not exist where would those kids go to school? Murphy, HD, Andrews, Hayesville, etc.
Would the kids that go to EC ever play football? Probably not
Since the EC does exist - Does having kids that would normally be attending other schools (Murphy, Andrews, HD, Hayesville), and who probably would never play football, help when ADMs are counted? Yes
Was the EC established because Gentry wanted to lower his ADM numbers? No, even though Gentry is adored, I don't think that he was able to bring the EC into being.
Is there anything that anybody can do about any of this? No - the EC is here to stay.
FOLKS, THIS IS NOT A GRIPE, WHINE, OR COMPLAINT - IT IS THE FACTS!!!!!
Robbinsville posters you need to deal with this FACT OF LIFE and move on.
Murphy posters just need to acknowledge that having the EC is somewhat beneficial to ADMs and move on.
I for one appreciated all of the SMC and WNC posters that came on here and congratulated us on the championship. This has been a great football season for the Knights and I am going to enjoy this one for a while. I think I may have to have surgery to remove this smile from my face.
Don't know why you included me in your post. I didn't post anything about not respecting the people of Robbinsville. There are a few knuckle heads on here that I argue with about silly things such as football but I'm sure most of the people over there are good folks. I bet even the posters I go back and forth with on here are good people too when it comes right down to it!
One of the most sensible posts I've seen on here! I just threw the P&J thing out there because 1) I had always heard about it (never stated it as fact as it was before my time) and 2) it was in response to another knight poster saying that Murphy cheats. Your post makes sense and I agree with all of it! Congrats on the title too, btw!Originally posted by Go4itKnights:
When people bring up the P and J recruiting thing it shows that they know nothing about the construction business. P and J employees didn't move to Robbinsville, where the headquarters were located, unless they were an accountant, a surveyor, or a secretary ... that's was the only people in the office!!!!! Construction "workers" go where the frickin job sites are ... Georgia, Florida, etc. So let me be clear, P and J never recruited anybody to play for Rville except Andy Jordan, Eddie Phillips, and Teddy Phillips, sons and nephew.
Last year, when I had this same tired argument, I ask anyone to name anybody that ever play for Rville that moved to Rville because of P and J. Somebody threw out the name of Marty Reagan ... he actually moved to Robbinsville when he was in the third grade, and I think his dad may have worked at the furniture factory instead of P and J.
FACTS???
Does Murphy send kids to EC? No, they choose to go there on their own.
If the EC did not exist where would those kids go to school? Murphy, HD, Andrews, Hayesville, etc.
Would the kids that go to EC ever play football? Probably not
Since the EC does exist - Does having kids that would normally be attending other schools (Murphy, Andrews, HD, Hayesville), and who probably would never play football, help when ADMs are counted? Yes
Was the EC established because Gentry wanted to lower his ADM numbers? No, even though Gentry is adored, I don't think that he was able to bring the EC into being.
Is there anything that anybody can do about any of this? No - the EC is here to stay.
FOLKS, THIS IS NOT A GRIPE, WHINE, OR COMPLAINT - IT IS THE FACTS!!!!!
Robbinsville posters you need to deal with this FACT OF LIFE and move on.
Murphy posters just need to acknowledge that having the EC is somewhat beneficial to ADMs and move on.
I for one appreciated all of the SMC and WNC posters that came on here and congratulated us on the championship. This has been a great football season for the Knights and I am going to enjoy this one for a while. I think I may have to have surgery to remove this smile from my face.
Problem is we already have Cherokee and Swain on the schedule. I don't know if both are staying on or not. I know Swain is still interested- the distance isn't that great and both schools travel fairly well. The two games have been close with each team winning at the opponent's field. I know there has been some discussion about Robbinsville or Owen coming on to the schedule but nothing is finalized.
Too many SMC games will put us scrambling to fill holes in the JV schedule.
I do remember spanking Murphy in the late 70's a couple of years
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Too many SMC games will put us scrambling to fill holes in the JV schedule.
I do remember spanking Murphy in the late 70's a couple of years
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I have no gripe with Swain. They count their #'s and if they have a program that recruits on its own merit (without someone actually going out and trying to bring kids in), which it does than that is fine by me. They are good year in and year out I understand why someone would want to play for them. Like I said before, if the transfer is legit than what is there to complain about??? Don't compare Murphy to Swain. Swain has a hardworking classy quality program that draws kids in. I have to respect that.
Murphy I have no respect for. There program is drastically shallow on class and honesty. All of my accusations have validity and basis. You and everyone else in Murphy know it.
Now we go out and recruit too? Dang. Next accusation will be that we will provide free housing for members of ISIS.
Like I said before, prove that Murphy cheats or shut your pie hole! Just because some loudmouth from Graham County says it doesn't make it so! You call Murphy "classless" but at least Murphy people don't go around painting and defacing other schools and their property! You have no gripe with Swain because Robbinsville can beat them more than twice in a 10 or 11 year span! Murphy kicks your ass most of the time so they must be cheating! LOL okay!! It took devastating, season killing injuries on Murphy's team to finally allow the door to open for Robbinsville this year! Argue if you want but you know it's true! Judging from your posts, I'm sure those injuries brought a smile to your face. Classless Murphy deserved it, right? People like you give Robbinsville a bad name. People like you don't deserve to celebrate a state title. You need to act more like some of your fellow knight posters like blackcat and goknightsgo. They deserve this championship. You, not so much!
You mean when teams like Thomasville and Albemarle were dominating 1aa football?? Thomasville has moved back to 2a and Murphy has beaten Albemarle three times in a row in the 1a playoffs. Also, teams like Maiden and Hendersonville were in the 1aa bracket during that time but have since moved back up to 2a. The 1aa playoffs were much tougher from 2001-2009 than they were from 2010-2014. But I'm still trying to figure out what "advantage" Murphy has?
That's right! But only for the ones that can play football! The rest you send to the early college! Gotta keep those numbers down!
@BK...I doubt anyone from Murphy painted that bulldog a week after Murphy lost to Robbinsville. Now if it had been painted the week before Murphy played Robbinsville then your explanation would make more sense. But Murphy people doing it after the game to fire up the team for next year? Nah. Way too early for that and Murphy will be pretty young in key spots next year anyway. Not expecting too much for a year or two. I don't see the painting as a big deal myself. Just a harmless prank IMO. But since knight of old started talking about Murphy's lack of class I just thought I would throw it out there.
Yes,3 SMC dates would create a problem for the JVS. I don't remember if the Cherokee series is a two or 4 year deal, but if it is a 2 and out, what better game to replace it with than Murphy for Tuscola if it could be worked out? Not a terrific travel, good gate, and SMC schools are always competitive and win their share even against 3a teams. (even though we have to hear them crow about something everybody already knows.) Pisgah played in my memory, Swain 4 times, and won 3 of them. Swain won the first one, 9-6 or something like that, PHS won in Shuler's Soph year, 31-7 then 31-27 on the hurricane Hugo weekend at Pisgah, and finally 28-21 at Swain. (I believe those scores are fairly close) Cant get much more competitive than that. Fabulous crowds at ALL those games either place. Someone on this thread said that Murphy or Swain should play Franklin and SM every year, and I would add Tuscola to that list as well. One or the other or both. Good for the communities. There should be no need for Murphy to travel out of state or Swain either to fill their schedule I don't think. It just fits. IMO Owen would also be a good fit. A team that Tuscola has rarely if ever played, with a fairly good crowd, and good teams, usually.Originally posted by BlueVols:
Problem is we already have Cherokee and Swain on the schedule. I don't know if both are staying on or not. I know Swain is still interested- the distance isn't that great and both schools travel fairly well. The two games have been close with each team winning at the opponent's field. I know there has been some discussion about Robbinsville or Owen coming on to the schedule but nothing is finalized.
Too many SMC games will put us scrambling to fill holes in the JV schedule.
I do remember spanking Murphy in the late 70's a couple of years
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no luck with Tuscola , Pisgah or OwenOriginally posted by WhoaMule:
Yes,3 SMC dates would create a problem for the JVS. I don't remember if the Cherokee series is a two or 4 year deal, but if it is a 2 and out, what better game to replace it with than Murphy for Tuscola if it could be worked out? Not a terrific travel, good gate, and SMC schools are always competitive and win their share even against 3a teams. (even though we have to hear them crow about something everybody already knows.) Pisgah played in my memory, Swain 4 times, and won 3 of them. Swain won the first one, 9-6 or something like that, PHS won in Shuler's Soph year, 31-7 then 31-27 on the hurricane Hugo weekend at Pisgah, and finally 28-21 at Swain. (I believe those scores are fairly close) Cant get much more competitive than that. Fabulous crowds at ALL those games either place. Someone on this thread said that Murphy or Swain should play Franklin and SM every year, and I would add Tuscola to that list as well. One or the other or both. Good for the communities. There should be no need for Murphy to travel out of state or Swain either to fill their schedule I don't think. It just fits. IMO Owen would also be a good fit. A team that Tuscola has rarely if ever played, with a fairly good crowd, and good teams, usually.Originally posted by BlueVols:
Problem is we already have Cherokee and Swain on the schedule. I don't know if both are staying on or not. I know Swain is still interested- the distance isn't that great and both schools travel fairly well. The two games have been close with each team winning at the opponent's field. I know there has been some discussion about Robbinsville or Owen coming on to the schedule but nothing is finalized.
Too many SMC games will put us scrambling to fill holes in the JV schedule.
I do remember spanking Murphy in the late 70's a couple of years
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+1. The old SMC 2A teams, and Tuscola and Pisgah (and maybe Brevard too), should never have a problem filling out their non-conference schedules.Originally posted by WhoaMule:
Yes,3 SMC dates would create a problem for the JVS. I don't remember if the Cherokee series is a two or 4 year deal, but if it is a 2 and out, what better game to replace it with than Murphy for Tuscola if it could be worked out? Not a terrific travel, good gate, and SMC schools are always competitive and win their share even against 3a teams. (even though we have to hear them crow about something everybody already knows.) Pisgah played in my memory, Swain 4 times, and won 3 of them. Swain won the first one, 9-6 or something like that, PHS won in Shuler's Soph year, 31-7 then 31-27 on the hurricane Hugo weekend at Pisgah, and finally 28-21 at Swain. (I believe those scores are fairly close) Cant get much more competitive than that. Fabulous crowds at ALL those games either place. Someone on this thread said that Murphy or Swain should play Franklin and SM every year, and I would add Tuscola to that list as well. One or the other or both. Good for the communities. There should be no need for Murphy to travel out of state or Swain either to fill their schedule I don't think. It just fits. IMO Owen would also be a good fit. A team that Tuscola has rarely if ever played, with a fairly good crowd, and good teams, usually.Originally posted by BlueVols:
Problem is we already have Cherokee and Swain on the schedule. I don't know if both are staying on or not. I know Swain is still interested- the distance isn't that great and both schools travel fairly well. The two games have been close with each team winning at the opponent's field. I know there has been some discussion about Robbinsville or Owen coming on to the schedule but nothing is finalized.
Too many SMC games will put us scrambling to fill holes in the JV schedule.
I do remember spanking Murphy in the late 70's a couple of years
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This post was edited on 12/22 8:10 PM by WhoaMule
no luck with Tuscola , Pisgah or Owen
I sure hate to hear that dogtuff. Would have been a good solution. I would like to see THS end their series with East Rutherford. Nothing against that school or their fans, but it is (IMO) just not a good fit, and has very little rivalry capabilities or offer much help with the revenue side, no matter who wins.
I sure hate to hear that dogtuff. Would have been a good solution. I would like to see THS end their series with East Rutherford. Nothing against that school or their fans, but it is (IMO) just not a good fit, and has very little rivalry capabilities or offer much help with the revenue side, no matter who wins.
