Cougars vs Rockets - MAC Championship
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kind of off topic but can someone explain to me how Asheville, with the program they have and the enrollment they have, consistently has such low participation numbers relative to their size?
It makes no sense to me, you would think Asheville would have 60+ on their roster every season.
It makes no sense to me, you would think Asheville would have 60+ on their roster every season.
Part of it is eligibility, Asheville city schools has one of the toughest eligibility(gpa) requirements in the state. Over the years there have also been athletes that only focused on basketball and/or track. A few years ago, two of the best athletes in the school decided to quit playing football and focus on track after having a monster freshmen year on jv. They ended up getting small track scholarships but there's no reason they couldn't have accomplished that while playing football too. Another reason might be that Wilkins is one of the toughest coaches I know of when it comes to conditioning and making his players work.
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That's true dynasy what you said about the conditioning and workout thing. You can see a big difference year to year with our players size. Some other buncombe county schools players look like they didnt touch a weight all summer.
The question is "Why so few white kids? "
The city has the granola crowd. Ask them about youth football and they don't know jack. They can tell you all about ABYSSA youth soccer, though.
Those east TN boys do weights before school during the season, and it shows. Try getting that OK'd.
The city has the granola crowd. Ask them about youth football and they don't know jack. They can tell you all about ABYSSA youth soccer, though.
Those east TN boys do weights before school during the season, and it shows. Try getting that OK'd.
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Its interesting the last 15 years. In 2000 or so the football team was 65-35 black, now its like 90-10 black. The level of white participation at Asheville high seems like it has declined, but some of the guys that do play are major contributors and great football players. As far back as I can remember, every team from 1999-2015 has had 32-40 players on varsity and between 3-8 guys that go both ways playing offense and defense. Look at McDowell vs Enka though, McDowell has 40 players and 2,000 students, Enka had 1,300 students and had like 65 players. I think at a school like Asheville high, you kind of know heading into the season who is going to start at each position and if that's the position a kid wants to play but wont start at, they just wont play. We have been ok with that number of players, but it does make our team incredibly thin. (and soccer sucks)
Also a lot of great players end up dropping out of school, I've watched great players from youth league all the way to freshman year. And end up dropping out. I know when I was in school I knew 3-5 of my buddies that would have started if stayed in school and that says a lot
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At least I support a team. Erwin could beat Asheville. I didn't say they would. There is no way Erwin could have beat Ootlewha or Science Hill on any night. Asheville yes. We were within 3 points of Reynolds in the 4th qtr before the scores were taken back. I am far from denial. Could Enka or NB beat Asheville? Hell no. Could Erwin on a good night? Absolutely. So I will ask you again Billy, WHO DO YOU PULL FOR?
Oh bless it. Cqajdd found him a little friend. Maybe you two can have a circle jerk and talk about how bad the cougars are going to beat Erwin...
QB (passing) - Asheville
RB - Reynolds
OL - Asheville
WR - Asheville
DL - Reynolds
LB - Asheville
DB - Asheville
K - Reynolds
Coach - Asheville
RB - Reynolds
OL - Asheville
WR - Asheville
DL - Reynolds
LB - Asheville
DB - Asheville
K - Reynolds
Coach - Asheville
Why does Asheville's qb have an advantage in passing? Dowdle is completing 73% of his passes for 670 yards with 6 tds to 3 ints. All of his passing stats are better than Asheville's QB and against better competition.
I have only seen Rico hit his first or second option on the money while standing in the pocket a couple of times(at least from his highlights). All of his completions are quick screen passes or where he scrambles around for 10-15 seconds until somebody is standing there wide open. Just my opinion.
So do those passes not count? He is making plays and hitting the open receiver and doing it with great efficiency.
I'm just saying it makes it easier to find somebody wide open when you can scramble around all day. I personally think Devon is the better thrower, but that's my opinion. Devon has a great arm, still working on decision making and hitting the right option. It's just hard to compare two quarterbacks who run different systems and have two different skill sets.
I agree that it hard to compare the systems. I just think people are extremely under rating Dowdle's arm and ability to throw.
Davidson is a qb first. Dowdle is not. There is nothing Asheville wants to see more than Rico dowdle in the pocket scanning the field looking to pass. What does it tell you that Rico dowdle who has never played qb before is completing 70 percent of his passes? That everything is screens and bubble routes. Just because a guy can throw it 50 yards doesn't make him a qb. Again, Asheville would love to make dowdle throw it alot Friday. And now that I say that he will throw for 285
That blows my mind. He was like 3rd or 4th option at Erwin at qb. It goes to show how much a kid can improve in a few seasons.
It's crazy the improvement he has made just since being jv QB last year. His skill set is similar to Tevin Salters, our previous QB.
He used to come in to the game in junk time and miss receivers by 20 yards. I am glad he is doing good now. Seems like a good kid.
dowdle throws the ball down the field too. he has a strong arm as well as being much more accurate than i thought he'd be. we've thrown fewer screens this year than i remember but i guess the tale will be told friday night
He is defiantly not a qb, but he makes it work at this level. You can't blitz him because he will burn you. You can't back off him because he will just sit back there and wait on a receiver to get open. Like I said earlier, I have never seen one player more important to their team than Dowdle is this season
Devon Davidson can play. He's got a great arm and appears to control out offense well. Asheville knows how to develop players. Remember in 2007 jeoffrey pagan was playing wide receiver at Reynolds. He comes to asheville high and 2 years later he's an all american defensive end committing to Alabama and eventually into the nfl.
BD why don't you just worry about Erwin. You may want to get your facts straight. Devon was the first quarterback to win a super bowl at Erwin youth going13-0. Devon, Gaston of the Cougars and Goode who is still unfortunately playing for Erwin were in the back field. He was never a 3rd or 4th option. On the middle school team him and Damien split snaps in the 8th grade. Neither really played in the 7th grade because Kyle never came off the field. Thank God his parents had enough sense to get him out of Erwin. Don't you worry because Erwin Will have to play him in November.
#1, you have to have a good push and containment from the sandwich eaters up front. #2, delayed blitz from linebackers. #3, corners stay at home and take away the outside lanes. #4, linebackers who aren't in on the blitz pick up the receivers with help over the top from safeties. It can be done and Dowdle can be shut down. Only problem is if he hits a receiver before the pressure gets to him, it's all over. That's the only way I see to shut him down, and even then you can still get burned. Personally, if I were coaching I wouldn't plan my whole game around one player. I'd keep someone in his face all night like Green or Brewer.....to the point that he gets pissed off and starts making mistakes.
First off Erwin has had many teams win the super bowl at the youth league level. So that kid definitely was not the first. Second Erwin has had kids in the NFL that have come up through Erwin and transfer to another school. The prime example is Jonathan Crompton and he still considers himself a Erwin graduate. Cqajdd can you please add some substance to the board besides trying to down Erwin and every other team on the board? We get it bud you guys are good. I personally believe ACR is a more balanced team and will come away with a win Friday.
You get your facts straight Erwin youth has not had many teams win super bowls. Look it up buddy. That team was the first. The only team on this board that I have said anything about is Erwin. Trust me I have great class. That is your opinion about the game on Friday. Guess that's why we play them. Glad the games are settled on the field. Oh, they leave for good reason.
I think he is definitely getting close to retirement. If I'm not mistaken, he has over 30 years in already.
If I had to guess I'd say maybe one more year. Then we'll hire in a new coach and go to the spread offense and Asheville football will be no more. That'll be a sad day in the MAC when the last power run O is gone.
Which youth team are we talking about? Termites? Mites? Or midgets? Because my son won two Super Bowls on mites and one on midgets. Why he play for Erwin? Because at the time his mama lived in Lester. But he was part of 3 Super Bowls at Erwin in early 2000s
He's had enough time now to learn our system, and he's got some good people coaching him up at the QB position. I think Brandon Whiteside is working with him now as well. I don't think he was a bad QB last year. No one is gonna look good when they're thrown in for one or two plays in a big game. His decision making this year is his biggest gain. His arm and accuracy has always been money. Honestly, in any other system where he was allowed to sling the ball around more I think his numbers would be way up, maybe even up there in the top 3 in the MAC.
You are a joke hiding behind a computer screen. Your obsession with Erwin and these young boys is downright creepy.
Don't even try with this weirdo. He has no clue what he is talking about?
Go back to sleep BD. It's time for you to hibernate...No interested in anything that comes out of your mouth.
Asheville QB has yet to hit WR #2 in stride. He under throws him every time on the deep ball. The DB hasn't caught up to block the pass, but makes the tackle. Fix that and he'll be averaging 30 yards a catch. WR #10 is the forgotten one. We'll see if that so called playbook I keep hearing about gets used this Friday.
The best play calling Wilkins ever did was the come from behind 29-0 to win 35-29 game vs Reynolds in 2011. When he had to mix the run with the pass.
The best play calling Wilkins ever did was the come from behind 29-0 to win 35-29 game vs Reynolds in 2011. When he had to mix the run with the pass.
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