West Charlotte at Erwin
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I would think West Charlotte would be a heavy favorite. Erwin has had a great season and do have some weapons, not sure if they have enough for West Charlotte though. The fact that WC has over twice as many students to choose from makes a difference as well.
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Erwin will have trouble on defense. Their offense is very good with a big line, steong armed QB and fast RB, but their Achilles heel has always been there defense even though it's improved this season.
WC offense is their weakness. Contain and don't get caught over pursuing. They have the athletes to add a defense and special teams score as well. Adapting to the cold will make any passing that much harder.
What does the student population have to do with it? Erwin's one defeat came at the hands of Mountain Heritage, a 1A school.
Think he was just pointing out that WC has 2300+ kids and will be 8a(highest qualification) next year but yet playing in 3a
We had a student pop of 1,400 when the last classification was done. In fact, we don't even have 2,300 now, it's about 2,000. The CMS Athletic Director added 300 to the number for potential student body growth that will probably occur over the next 4 - 5 years.
Myers Park has the highest student pop in all of NC, have for some years. Along with parents and supporters with significant wealth and they're not even in the playoffs. Heck, their booster club budget is about $1.1 million dollars year over year.
Win or lose I'm definitely proud of Erwin and what they did this season. They should be good again next year too. They lose their line and a really good receiver but return a sophomore qb that has 3000yds passing and 36td's to just 4 interception and his go to receiver Reynolds. Erwin's rb is really good but very soft too. He gets hurt every time the wind blows. I like the jr replacement much better anyways.
As for the West Charlotte game I really don't know much about them. Looking at their record they seem to be really good defensively and they have put up some points too. Erwin usually out athletes teams with our passing game but that will not be the case this week. We will have to play a very good game to have a chance. Like crestrulz said, one thing that might help is the weather. Driving almost 3 hrs to play in 20° weather will suck for them. It will also slow our passing game down so who knows. My heart says Erwin 35 WC 28. My brain says WC 28 Erwin 14
As for the West Charlotte game I really don't know much about them. Looking at their record they seem to be really good defensively and they have put up some points too. Erwin usually out athletes teams with our passing game but that will not be the case this week. We will have to play a very good game to have a chance. Like crestrulz said, one thing that might help is the weather. Driving almost 3 hrs to play in 20° weather will suck for them. It will also slow our passing game down so who knows. My heart says Erwin 35 WC 28. My brain says WC 28 Erwin 14
You know you've had a fantastic season when you're practicing on Thanksgiving. Rooting for the Warriors in this one!
They had over 2200 as of a couple weeks ago. 100% positive on that. There was no adding numbers, thats not how the numbers are turned in. I was told during last classifications they had 1600, not 100% on that.
They simply will not accept that. Said it a million times. WC played 4A with 3A numbers for nearly a decade. WC wanted to be a 4A school and stayed 4A with 3A numbers before last realignment. The school enrollment was capped while new school being built, now that the new school is open the enrollment is growing quickly last two years. This was highly unexpected as most did not want to go to WC the past 20 years and now its changed an families want to attend. Every sport at WC is struggling right now besides football. Guess numbers don't matter except for football.
You're 100% wrong. I am a very actively engaged alum and booster. I spoke with one of the assistant principals about the numbers prior to them being released and the current number is 2,012. I soke with the Principal about the numbers this past Friday night at the game and she confirmed it to be 2,012. Having first hand knowledge of the previous ADM for the current 3A classification being 1,400 based on athletic related business I was involved in with the previous AD.
Not sure where you're getting your information from but it's inaccurate.
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That game still stings. Erwin would be 13-0 right now had the not fumbled in the red zone with minutes to go. Heritage is a hell of team this year though. They have a legit chance to win it all in 1A. I think what MACFAN was saying is WC is much bigger school so they have a lot more kids to pull from. It doesn't mean a smaller school is not as good, just at a disadvantage in that aspect.
Student population in an urban school doesn't mean that amount is eligible to play nor does it exclude the amount of young ladies which our students t population is more females than males. There are a TON of obstacles to deal with in an urban school that has to be dealt with. Heck, bad grades, unstable parenting, unstable home environments, students being the oldest sibling so they can't play athletics because they have to go home after school to take care of the younger sibling(s), homelessness and much, much, much more. I've even known of coaches and teachers who've voluntarily had to help pay rent and/or utilities for the parents of some of the kids' families.
Despite all of the above, I'm proud of Coach Greiner being able to keep the kids focused, hungry, humbled and centered.
Agree, I said i didn't know about last reclassification numbers but do remember they where higher than the 2 Asheville schools because it was talks about the reason they were higher classification than WC on the boards.
As far as this year's numbers, those numbers came directly from both the West Charlotte school secretary and was connected to the registar to confirm( over a property in the area and wanted to know numbers). So if it's inaccurate, the schools info is inaccurate. I'll leave it be at that but if you want to confirm, talk directly with the person in charge of attendance, the registar.
At the end of the day Erwin has to play West Charlotte Friday regardless how many students make up their ADM.
exactly....LOL don't know what this talk of speculative admin numbers is - smh.
Bottom line....it is a big deal...unless 3a teams start getting 1a teams to play in the playoffs, and 4a teams have to play local D2 college teams in the HS playoffs, etc.
Right....AND if you have those specific problems....football (or any sport) shouldn't be at the top of your list of priorities. Those problems should not change one bit of where you play HS sports anymore than a higher number of suicides at wealthier HSs should change it.
I have never heard the retort: we have a lot more girls than boys....so that is one reason/ justification why we get to play a class lower (or two) than we should be at.
Does it really matter how many students West Charlotte has? I mean it’s not like they’ve been dominating 3A and winning consecutive championships like Catholic did. They’ve been bounced in the third round the last 3 seasons and will not win it this year so what’s really the problem?
We were absolutely a power for decades. What changed? Neighborhood school assignments caused too much poverty in one school. Re-segregation.
You tell me the problem. Who has mentioned anything about there being a problem about where we're classed? Not an issue for WC. As for dominating 3A, the focus has not been dominating anything. There is a plan for us getting back to where we once were and it's right on target.
Yeah, it matters. When some of the teams they beat have half as many students. It matters to them.
We are playing in the class we were assigned in last classification cycle. If there was an issue about that, the member schools should have brought it up to the NCHSAA.
As for focus, school spirit is a big part of the high school experience and a successful athletics program is embedded in that. WC is absolutely on the positive upward trajectory on many levels. There's a reason for the student pop growing by 800+ students in 4 - 5 years. Just keep watching us.
While you're at it, point out to them 1A Mountain Heritage which has far less students than 3A Erwin beat Erwin this year.
As for focus, school spirit is a big part of the high school experience and a successful athletics program is embedded in that. WC is absolutely on the positive upward trajectory on many levels. There's a reason for the student pop growing by 800+ students in 4 - 5 years. Just keep watching us.
I suggest those schools propose reclassifications more frequently than every four years. Also, they should tell them that Myers Park should be in a 9A classification all by themselves. They have 1,200 - 1,300 more students than the smallest of the new 8A class.
While you're at it, point out to them 1A Mountain Heritage which has far less students than 3A Erwin beat Erwin this year.
Cope however you need to cope. I don’t care but it matters. It’s an advantage and I’m not pointing out anything to anyone.
It doesn’t matter anyway nothing can be done about it this year and next years they’re moving on up to where they should have been.
I’m hoping the enjoy the nice mountain air. That 24 degree air.
It is what it is but there are adm classes in place for a reason. There's usually an outlier somewhere that sees alot of growth during a realignment period. Monroe has 1200 students and are playing 2a ball so it's not just West Charlotte.
They'll be just fine. I've never heard of any team based in any mountains being undefeated because of where they're located. God speed!
You keep mentioning Heritage beating Erwin but it's not like they are some scrub 1A team. They are 12-0 and might be the best team in 1A.
That's cool. You sound like a proud fan or alumni and nothing wrong with that. You might smoke my Warriors Friday night. We will be very lucky to get a win in this one if that happens. I take it from your posts that WC is in a really poor area of Charlotte?
Safe travels up too Asheville Friday night. If you have any questions about the area feel free to ask.
They've not played anyone of significance. Did they play other 3A or 4A teams and beat them? Those schools up there don't play against the kind of athletes and talent they're going to see Friday night. I. The future they .ay want to consider coming this way to practice and play against high caliber competition in order to be prepared r seeing it in the playoffs each season.
You're talking to someone who has traveled the state the last 20 years watching the best of the best teams. I know exactly what kind of speed there is down east. All I was saying is heritage is a damn good team this season. I didn't say they were a great 3A or 4A caliber team. Your team may beat the hell out of Erwin Friday night with all those "athletes" but I can promise you we have seen it before. We've played teams like Crest, SP, CC, etc. We have won some of those games too. I think you are mistakenly thinking I don't respect WC. I think they are the favorite by far against Erwin and that's hard for me to say!
The adm was used asap to show a 1A school could beat a 3A school and admin didn't matter. Some are not getting the point that WC was around 1400 students for years and played 4A. The past two classes were just much bigger than anyone anticipated. 3A has not benefitted WC except for one sport football. Sans the basketball championship WC sports have been down bad regards of being in 3A. The 3A ship year they beat quite possibly the best basketball teams in the state regardless of class CC and 71st.
-The real benefit to me is WC playing 3A/4A conference and then playing in 3A playoffs. The level of their comp is just simply better week to week. The Cleveland County schools typically do well because of this. They are battle tested.
IMHO Dudley is the best team in the state regardless of classification. Also think Hickory is top 5 in the state. Robinson is gonna get killed Friday night.
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The have their own minds made up with what they want it to be. They want ideal instead of realistic. What they're not going to do is sit around and slander or make up things about a school that has one of the most historical reputations in the state since 1938.
Calm it down chief. I don’t pay attention to high school football like I used to but I’ve literally never heard of West Charlotte before the last couple of weeks. Let’s not act like Erwin is about to play the 01’ Miami hurricanes. WC will probably win on Friday, but crazier things have happened. Maybe try a dose of humility before you head up the mountain.
