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Shelby needs a 2017 game

Alright Hitman, I see an opportunity here! Wanna bet large money against the Mighty Red Raiders scoring?
Wow that's sad that you would even want to try and wager something that should be a given based on past success, but I'll think about it.
 
Wow that's sad that you would even want to try and wager something that should be a given based on past success, but I'll think about it.

Don't portray it to be something it's not. You simply said, we'd be lucky to score. I saw an opportunity to make some money if anyone from Shelby had balls enough to agree with your crazy statement.

Remember, to be the best you have to beat the best (in November and December). 1st round exit?
 
Don't bet with him Hitman.We had the same wager last year and he still owes me 10 dollars.
 
Don't portray it to be something it's not. You simply said, we'd be lucky to score. I saw an opportunity to make some money if anyone from Shelby had balls enough to agree with your crazy statement.

Remember, to be the best you have to beat the best (in November and December). 1st round exit?
Y'all don't have a good history with us in the playoffs.
 
Wrong.....this is without a doubt the toughest schedule in the state and here is why:

While 4A posters, I am sure, will disagree...

For a 2A school:

@ 3A Freedom
3A AC Reynolds
3A Burns
3A Crest
@ 3A Kings Mountain
@ 4A Rock Hill South Pointe (3 Time defending SC State Champ)
Conference including reigning 3A Champ South Point.

Find me one school that plays a tougher schedule. 4A schools NEVER play up unless they bring someone in from out of state that is a 5A or 6A school. Even without South Pointe, Shelby's schedule is as tough as they come. Again NO 4A schools play up 6 games in a row.

Agree to disagree
 
It's a tough schedule but not toughest in thevdtate. Freedom and kings mountain aren't world beaters
 
It's a tough schedule but not toughest in thevdtate. Freedom and kings mountain aren't world beaters

You're missing the point.

Show me another school....regardless of class that has to play up one to two levels for 6 straight games. NO 4A SCHOOLS PLAY UP....so they are disqualified from saying they have the toughest schedule. That would be equivalent to Shelby, a 2A school, playing nothing but 2A and 1A schools for the entire season. What would their record be if that was the case? If these worldbeater 4A NC schools had 6 straight games of an out of state 5A or 6A school or small D3 school how would they fair. It's a simple concept.
 
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You're missing the point.

Show me another school....regardless of class that has to play up one to two levels for 6 straight games. NO 4A SCHOOLS PLAY UP....so they are disqualified from saying they have the toughest schedule. That would be equivalent to Shelby, a 2A school, playing nothing but 2A and 1A schools for the entire season. What would their record be if that was the case? If these worldbeater 4A NC schools had 6 straight games of an out of state 5A or 6A school or small D3 school how would they fair. It's a simple concept.

No I understand your point. It is a valid point, but I still disagree with it.
 
You are so right.Ok Shelby has won TWO in a row over SP.Including last years beat down shutout over the 3A State Champions.How's that Mr. Seadog.

Much, much better!! Now, we can start counting from there. You did forget our man handling of you the year before, though. Swami says, "4 year Raider run!"
 
Much, much better!! Now, we can start counting from there. You did forget our man handling of you the year before, though. Swami says, "4 year Raider run!"
You better come up with some new plays. There is another Hollifield coming in the pipeline.
 
You're missing the point.

Show me another school....regardless of class that has to play up one to two levels for 6 straight games. NO 4A SCHOOLS PLAY UP....so they are disqualified from saying they have the toughest schedule. That would be equivalent to Shelby, a 2A school, playing nothing but 2A and 1A schools for the entire season. What would their record be if that was the case? If these worldbeater 4A NC schools had 6 straight games of an out of state 5A or 6A school or small D3 school how would they fair. It's a simple concept.

hmm a Top notch 4A school playing avg/mediocre 5A or 6A schools that were probably better at wrestling and basketball than football, while losing to 2 good 5A/6A schools...sounds about equivalent to what might happen to you all this year. You have a good chance of going into the title game with at least 2 losses, maybe 3 or 4.
 
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hmm a Top notch 4A school playing avg/mediocre 5A or 6A schools that were probably better at wrestling and basketball than football, while losing to 2 good 5A/6A schools...sounds about equivalent to what might happen to you all this year. You have a good chance of going into the title game with at least 2 losses, maybe 3 or 4.

Ok....which 4A team are you speaking of?
 
Id love to know how exactly a 4A team could "play up" without traveling through multiple states?

7A Grayson outside of Atlanta has about 2700 kids, 5A Gaffney in SC (which is closer to Shelby than 1200 student South Pointe, fyi) has about 2000 kids.

Basically, unless you can get a home and home with one of those 5000 student high schools in California, it's hard to "play up" as a 4A team in NC.
 
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Id love to know how exactly a 4A team could "play up" without traveling through multiple states?

7A Grayson outside of Atlanta has about 2700 kids, 5A Gaffney in SC (which is closer to Shelby than 1200 student South Pointe, fyi) has about 2000 kids.

Basically, unless you can get a home and home with one of those 5000 student high schools in California, it's hard to "play up" as a 4A team in NC.

I rest my case. If you can't/don't play up then how could you deem your schedule more difficult than a team that does?

It appears by your little part in parenthesis that you are slighting the fact that we are playing Rock Hill South Pointe instead of Gaffney. Let's take a looksie....one is a 3 time defending SC state champ....the other is a Powerhouse SC team but has been down quite a bit lately including a 2015 6-6 season and a 2014 4-8 season. Hmmmm....maybe you're just a little jealous Reidsville can't get the attention. Just be thankful for the subdividing of classes.
 
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I rest my case. If you can't/don't play up then how could you deem your schedule more difficult than a team that does?

It appears by your little part in parenthesis that you are slighting the fact that we are playing Rock Hill South Pointe instead of Gaffney. Let's take a looksie....one is a 3 time defending SC state champ....the other is a Powerhouse SC team but has been down quite a bit lately including a 2015 6-6 season and a 2014 4-8 season. Hmmmm....maybe you're just a little jealous Reidsville can't get the attention. Just be thankful for the subdividing of classes.
The football gods were definitely on Reidsville side last season. Lincolnton was exposed against Maiden. Edenton Holmes just wasn't good, period, a 1A team. We would have humbled the Rams. I would have put my money on Hunter Huss beating them, too. Monroe was tough, too, very athletic.
 
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Mr 72 Champ, the Gaffney reference was directed toward the whole "playing up" comment. Big difference in 850 vs 1200 and 850 vs 2000. I understand your point, but it's really apples to oranges in my opinion.

The football gods were definitely on Reidsville side last season. Lincolnton was exposed against Maiden. Edenton Holmes just wasn't good, period, a 1A team. We would have humbled the Rams. I would have put my money on Hunter Huss beating them, too. Monroe was tough, too, very athletic.

You would have lost your money lol.
 
Mr 72 Champ, the Gaffney reference was directed toward the whole "playing up" comment. Big difference in 850 vs 1200 and 850 vs 2000. I understand your point, but it's really apples to oranges in my opinion.



You would have lost your money lol.
Glad you clarified that Gaffney reference. Initially, it appeared as if you were slighting South Pointe, which would have been ridiculous.
 
The football gods were definitely on Reidsville side last season. Lincolnton was exposed against Maiden. Edenton Holmes just wasn't good, period, a 1A team. We would have humbled the Rams. I would have put my money on Hunter Huss beating them, too. Monroe was tough, too, very athletic.

But I'm pretty sure you picked Lincolnton to win? You're confusing this Reidsville team with the one's you've seen recently. The only team that could have beaten reidsville this year was shelby and I actually consider that game a tossup
 
But I'm pretty sure you picked Lincolnton to win? You're confusing this Reidsville team with the one's you've seen recently. The only team that could have beaten reidsville this year was shelby and I actually consider that game a tossup
I did, because I felt that y'all hadn't played anyone, You guys were a good team, indeed, though. You had a couple of players get looked at by UNC and given an opportunity as preferred walk ons, quarterback to App State. Obviously, you all had some players on that team. Having said this, you were indeed lucky, though. You didn't face athletic teams the likes of Shelby, Huss, and Monroe. Northside was athletic, too. You guys are sleeping on Huss big time.

The best team you all played was Lincolnton, and they proved them getting beat down by Maiden was no aberration, and don't get me started on Holmes. Man, they were terrible, one dimensional with their outdated offense, they couldn't even punt the ball. You guys were lucky this year, period, point blank with the way the subdivision played out.
 
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I did, because I felt that y'all hadn't played anyone, You guys were a good team, indeed, though. You had a couple of players get looked at by UNC and given an opportunity as preferred walk ons, an to App State. Obviously, you all had some players on that team. Having said this, you were indeed lucky, though. You didn't fave athletic teams the likes of Shelby, Huss, and Monroe. Northside was athletic, too. You guys are sleeping on Huss big time.

The best team you all played was Lincolnton, and they proved them getting beat down by Maiden was no aberration, and don't get me started on Holmes. Man, they were terrible, one dimensional with their outdated offense, they couldn't even punt the ball. You guys were lucky this year, period point blank.


I'll agree I don't think Holmes was that great. But it was known before the west finals that Reidsville vs Lincolnton was the state champion. Holmes did only lose by 11 to Rocky Mount though. Don't sleep on North Rowan either, they were solid.
I know Huss was good, but still don't think they would have beaten us, would it be close sure.
Maybe we can run into you guys this year, I think the rams will be pretty good again and I know Shelby will be good again.
 
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Ok.....why?


I don't think you can say just because a 4a team doesn't play a 5a team, therefore Shelbys schedule is tougher. Regardless Shelbys schedule is probably one of the tougher one's in the state regardless of class.
For arguments sake I'd have to see another 3a team or 4a teams schedule to make a comparison
 
I'll agree I don't think Holmes was that great. But it was known before the west finals that Reidsville vs Lincolnton was the state champion. Holmes did only lose by 11 to Rocky Mount though. Don't sleep on North Rowan either, they were solid.
I know Huss was good, but still don't think they would have beaten us, would it be close sure.
Maybe we can run into you guys this year, I think the rams will be pretty good again and I know Shelby will be good again.
I just really got annoyed, because I thought your fellow Reidsville guy was slighting us playing South Pointe instead of Gaffney. I was thinking, "Really"? You can't step up any better than South Pointe. They're as good as it gets.

I felt that we were unfairly criticized as is for so called not stepping up, but I did find it flattering that posters were matching us up against teams, much bigger schools, that are really supposed to beat us, it shows their respect for our program.
 
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+1 on the Jacksonville Northside quote.I know they were a 3a school but did have a lot of good athletes.You saw how their basketball team did going 30 and 0.
 
I just really got annoyed, because I thought your fellow Reidsville guy was slighting us playing South Pointe instead of Gaffney. I was thinking, "Really"? You can't step up any better than South Pointe. They're as good as it gets.

I felt that we were unfairly criticized as is for so called not stepping up, but I did find it flattering that posters were matching us up against teams, much bigger schools, that are really supposed to beat us, it shows their respect for our program.


I may try to check out the South Pointe game if I can
 
I just really got annoyed, because I thought your fellow Reidsville guy was slighting us playing South Pointe instead of Gaffney. I was thinking, "Really"? You can't step up any better than South Pointe. They're as good as it gets.

I felt that we were unfairly criticized as is for so called not stepping up, but I did find it flattering that posters were matching us up against teams, much bigger schools, that are really supposed to beat us, it shows their respect for our program.

I don't think anyone criticized them for not stepping up. People would be curious about matchups without 'criticism' due to the respect they already had. What incited 'criticism' was the antagonism of 98/72 Champions on the higher classification boards saying Shelby was better the best teams in those classes, especially the 4A board.
 
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South Pointe was one of the very best teams in SC last year and expect the same in 2017. I was out of town when they played Mallard Creek but have seen them play most seasons. They will have the size and athleticism to match up with Shelby. The big X factor for RHSP is they are more (than probably all Shelby opponents) accustomed to playing elite teams with big time athletes that can throw the ball.

I look forward to being at the game. Good job by Lance Ware and Shelby.
 
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South Pointe was one of the very best teams in SC last year and expect the same in 2017. I was out of town when they played Mallard Creek but have seen them play most seasons. They will have the size and athleticism to match up with Shelby. The big X factor for RHSP is they are more (than probably all Shelby opponents) accustomed to playing elite teams with big time athletes that can throw the ball.

I look forward to being at the game. Good job by Lance Ware and Shelby.
Now, Btango, a knowledgeable high school football follower like yourself know good and well that we will be underdogs to South Pointe, double digit underdogs. Do I think we will be competitive? Absolutely! Will the players feel as if they can win this game versus this caliber of an opponent? Absolutely! However, South Pointe is obviously favored, they're 4A, and they just 3 peated as state champs last season. They have won state titles 5 times in the past 11 years. Tall task for the Shelby Golden Lions. The question is, we will have enough to compete w/ them.
 
You know LA, I still think we'll beat the snot out of you. But, kudos to Ware and company for building a championship type schedule.
 
You know LA, I still think we'll beat the snot out of you. But, kudos to Ware and company for building a championship type schedule.
Holla at me when the time comes, I'll give you 10 points, but thanks for recognizing our competitive schedule.

Never mind the bet, though. Smh. You still owe SHS LION $10, your credibility took a hit, after I read that.
 
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Holla at me when the time comes, I'll give you 10 points, but thanks for recognizing our competitive schedule.

Never mind the bet, though. Smh. You still owe SHS LION $10, your credibility took a hit, after I read that.

Lol...Bob made that up! My credit is platinum! :)
 
Now, Btango, a knowledgeable high school football follower like yourself know good and well that we will be underdogs to South Pointe, double digit underdogs. Do I think we will be competitive? Absolutely! Will the players feel as if they can win this game versus this caliber of an opponent? Absolutely! However, South Pointe is obviously favored, they're 4A, and they just 3 peated as state champs last season. They have won state titles 5 times in the past 11 years. Tall task for the Shelby Golden Lions. The question is, we will have enough to compete w/ them.

Shelby will definitely be a double digit underdog in this game. Those big time 4A teams in SC are legit. Shelby fans will be asking after the game "WTF" did we play them? All we got were a boatload of injuries and a world class arse whooping.
 
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