I applaud Dempsey, and what he has been able to accomplish. I see him as being a fine man, and a good example to his kids, and I know they are learning the game from Dempsey. With Phil I think all of the above can be said, but I will add Phil pushed winning and was unapologetic about wanting to win. Phil got to be in a real golden era of coaches with Holly at ED, and Lewis at Clinton ( I think sometimes that is missed when talking about eastern football allot). Dempsey is not under any hot seat because SW would not be able to replace him with a better coach, but I will say until he wins the big game he is suspect. Phil in the 90s lost allot of big games with what I saw as better talent, but the SW fans had never seen the big game so it did not matter. Now we have seen championships that is what we want to see again soon!!