Grimsley vs Weddington

[EastlandEagle704]

Not the first but easily the best of my lifetime.

Charlotte Football Insiders was speaking a few days ago how Charlotte Catholic and Weddington have a 25 mile radius to grab kids even ones that goes into South Carolina. Must be nice, but you want to cry about Public Schools. Every year you see the same schools in the Charlotte Metro Area win (Weddington, Catholic, Hough, Mallard Creek and Independence, now West Charlotte} While Harding, N Meck, East Meck, West Meck, Rocky River, Providence, Garinger, Ardrey Kell, Myers Park Struggle every year. Nobody was complaining when Charlotte Independence went on that 7 year run, Or Butler and Mallard Creek and Vance/Chambers was doing their thing. But as soon as the power switched to Gboro, now you want to complain!!!!

I get what you’re trying to say but it’s not really the same schools every year. Indy and West are coming off of a rough stretch that lasted about 10 seasons. Creek also had a little dry spell. I guess Hough has been a constant but we all know they stick out in this list for one big reason.

East Meck, Providence, AK, Myers Park, West Meck, Rocky River, and especially Harding have all had some form of success over the last 20 seasons. Garinger is the lone constant in having been sorry for longer than some of us have been alive.

As far as the transfer portal, the only time folks complain is when their team isn’t benefitting from it. Almost every school that’s ever won state has been accused of having a star player that probably shouldn’t have been playing at the school. It is what it is.

 

[ecu424]

Well, for a deeply flawed team they sure gave Grimsley problems.

For a bit they had a 10 point lead and then all he'll broke loose. We beat the spead by 9!!!!

 

[mrhonda]

You just can’t stand that a team from Greensboro beats all of the Charlotte teams..lol

I’ve mentioned this over and over and over during the last few years. I have no Charlotte dog in the fight. So I really don’t care. What I don’t like is how Grimsley does things. For example being an allstar, transfer portal destination. The QBs mother going to court to insure her son gets his NILmoney. It’s gotten ridiculous. That’s why every year the same teams were fighting for the west this time of the year. I’ve followed high school ball for 60 years in multiple states and this is the worst I’ve seen it. It’s not going to stop. I hardly followed high school ball this year and will probably follow it even less next season. I mentioned in an earlier comment Grimsley’s under scheduling. Someone mentioned earlier that Grimsley is 17-1 against Charlotte schools. How many of those games were at Home vs on the road? I would venture to say if they had to travel at least as much as other teams they would not be 17-1. My guess is the underscheduling is on purpose to make sure that they have all those home games. Someone mentioned hating on Grimsley. That’s such a tired and overused word these days. I don’t hate on the Grimsley program. I just don’t respect it. And don’t even go back to the parochial schools playing in the NCHSAA. That would be the pot calling the kettle black. Grimsley a “public” school? In name only. The same could be said of Hough. Grimsley just uses the portal a little better. After 60 years, I’m retired.

 

[ecu424]

I think it was a colder Forcast earlier in the week that put people off coming. It was much warmer than the last 2 week but people already made up their minds not to go. The Grimsley side was packed but many where just there to see a good game and not affiliated with the school.

 

[justchilln]

You can call it whatever you like. I really don’t care. I believe they should have it State wide. They’re loaded with other schools players. I guess we can call it, the special curriculum player’s program 🤷🏾‍♂️😂 Go Whirlies!

I BET the same people complaining about Grimsley are the same people yelling "school choice". Guilford County is a great example of what school choice should look like. Guilford County has two high schools ranked tops in the nation and it is all part of the public school system. People want to say that sports in being put ahead of the academics, but at these academies the kids are getting a really good academic experience.

 

[justchilln]

I’ve mentioned this over and over and over during the last few years. I have no Charlotte dog in the fight. So I really don’t care. What I don’t like is how Grimsley does things. For example being an allstar, transfer portal destination. The QBs mother going to court to insure her son gets his NILmoney. It’s gotten ridiculous. That’s why every year the same teams were fighting for the west this time of the year. I’ve followed high school ball for 60 years in multiple states and this is the worst I’ve seen it. It’s not going to stop. I hardly followed high school ball this year and will probably follow it even less next season. I mentioned in an earlier comment Grimsley’s under scheduling. Someone mentioned earlier that Grimsley is 17-1 against Charlotte schools. How many of those games were at Home vs on the road? I would venture to say if they had to travel at least as much as other teams they would not be 17-1. My guess is the underscheduling is on purpose to make sure that they have all those home games. Someone mentioned hating on Grimsley. That’s such a tired and overused word these days. I don’t hate on the Grimsley program. I just don’t respect it. And don’t even go back to the parochial schools playing in the NCHSAA. That would be the pot calling the kettle black. Grimsley a “public” school? In name only. The same could be said of Hough. Grimsley just uses the portal a little better. After 60 years, I’m retired.

The real problem is that you aren't able to change with the times. Grimsley is definitely a public school, but they provide the players with an experience and opportunity that other schools don't. Page also has an academy, but look at where they are. In terms of NIL, these kids deserve any money they can get. People don't see the early morning workout sessions, money spent on outside position coaches, the cost to travel to camps.

I am a dirt bike guy. Kids have been making money racing motocross for decades. They are signing million dollar contracts at 16 years old.

And what is this "under scheduling" talk??? I believe they had their oppoment this coming week on their schedule early in the season. Also, how many good schools actually schedule other good schools, early in the season, that they may see later in the season??? That normally only happens in conference play.

 

[justchilln]

Last night’s game reminded me of a game I still haven’t gotten over which was Butler/Grimsley west final a few years ago. Butler controlled the first half and had chances to put them away. The second half Grimsley exploded offensively like they did last night. The way the exploded was similar which was explosive pass and run plays. Once they get into space its a wrap. Lets see if they finish the season as they did back then. If they do I think they would be a top ten of all time NC team in my opinion.

My only gripe with Grimsley is for them to be loaded with talent they should be playing out of state teams to at least showcase the talent NC has to offer. To me it’s a bit shameful to get some of the best talent in the state only to beat up on NC teams with inferior talent. Weddington and Hough may participate in similar “portal” activities at least they will play other teams outside the state to test themselves.

Last night’s game reminded me of a game I still haven’t gotten over which was Butler/Grimsley west final a few years ago. Butler controlled the first half and had chances to put them away. The second half Grimsley exploded offensively like they did last night. The way the exploded was similar which was explosive pass and run plays. Once they get into space its a wrap. Lets see if they finish the season as they did back then. If they do I think they would be a top ten of all time NC team in my opinion.

My only gripe with Grimsley is for them to be loaded with talent they should be playing out of state teams to at least showcase the talent NC has to offer. To me it’s a bit shameful to get some of the best talent in the state only to beat up on NC teams with inferior talent. Weddington and Hough may participate in similar “portal” activities at least they will play other teams outside the state to test themselves.

Charlotte schools are on the boarder with SC so it is easy for them to schedule "out of state" schools. Mallard Creek is the only program that seems to actually travel and it doesn look like that has helped them much.

 

[mrhonda]

Charlotte schools are on the boarder with SC so it is easy for them to schedule "out of state" schools. Mallard Creek is the only program that seems to actually travel and it doesn look like that has helped them much.

It has. The kids get the experience of playing out of state schools. But the big thing, is may not have helped record wise (as in consescutive unbeaten seasons and continually having home games in the playoffs...ahem), but they are willing to take the risk. Mallard Creek has been doing that for awhile. Then Hough, another portal school, played Rock Hill Northwestern this year and they've played Dutch Fork, Tommy Knott's team. But the comment the commenter made, that I'm replying to is just stating one of many excuses some of these folks have used (not sure about those who actually schedule the games), but if they really wanted to, they could find a way. If Mallard Creek could travel to Georgia or Ohio, teams in Greensboro could as well, I would think.

 

[nepsy7]

Charlotte schools are on the boarder with SC so it is easy for them to schedule "out of state" schools. Mallard Creek is the only program that seems to actually travel and it doesn look like that has helped them much.

Creek schedule stiff competition because they’re an Undeniable team (Under Armor) It’s required under the contract. This is all new for Grimsley. (Winning) So they’re not used to people calling them out for more. Not used to winning. This to shall pass. Regarding the Creek, and what helps us. Stuff competition is not going away. We’ll be heading down to Grayson next year, who’s playing for the State title of Georgia next week. Our future is just as bright than any school in the state, Just fielded one of the best JV teams in school history. Also, no team in Greensboro has a winning record against us. Stop whining and enjoy the success. 🤷🏾‍♂️

 

[Veek45]

Charlotte schools are on the boarder with SC so it is easy for them to schedule "out of state" schools. Mallard Creek is the only program that seems to actually travel and it doesn look like that has helped them much.

Chambers went up to Richmond, Va and beat a great highland springs team 3 seasons ago. Butler went up to D.C. and played a nationally ranked St. John’s that same season. Grimsley can and should at least be scheduling teams in Va if they don’t want to go down to Sc or Ga.

 

[RammanuelKant]

Under scheduling to get a good seed? Honda, have you heard of RPI. 60% of the index is derived from your opponents win % and their Opponents win %. Schedule cupcakes and your RPI suffers. Ask Dudley.
How soon do you forget last year when a two loss Weddington got the #1 seed? And your ‘portal’ knowledge about Grimsley come largely from Pagepirate44 who is about the most anti-Grimsley voice there is. After 60 years, you’re not retired; you are just not relevant any longer. Enjoy the game, the competition and these great young athletes.

Oh yeah, Weddington beat Grimsley last year with their physicality. But guess who got physically whipped last night?

 

[justchilln]

It has. The kids get the experience of playing out of state schools. But the big thing, is may not have helped record wise (as in consescutive unbeaten seasons and continually having home games in the playoffs...ahem), but they are willing to take the risk. Mallard Creek has been doing that for awhile. Then Hough, another portal school, played Rock Hill Northwestern this year and they've played Dutch Fork, Tommy Knott's team. But the comment the commenter made, that I'm replying to is just stating one of many excuses some of these folks have used (not sure about those who actually schedule the games), but if they really wanted to, they could find a way. If Mallard Creek could travel to Georgia or Ohio, teams in Greensboro could as well, I would think.

Ummmmmmm, if it isn't helping them win a championship it really isn't helping. And YOU are upset that Grimsley has been good enough to have home games throughout the playoffs. That is every teams goal...

Maybe you will get your wish next season, in terms of Grimsley playing an out of state school.

 

[justchilln]

Chambers went up to Richmond, Va and beat a great highland springs team 3 seasons ago. Butler went up to D.C. and played a nationally ranked St. John’s that same season. Grimsley can and should at least be scheduling teams in Va if they don’t want to go down to Sc or Ga.

Chambers went up to Richmond, Va and beat a great highland springs team 3 seasons ago. Butler went up to D.C. and played a nationally ranked St. John’s that same season. Grimsley can and should at least be scheduling teams in Va if they don’t want to go down to Sc or Ga.

Unnecessary. There is plenty of competition in NC.

 

[nepsy7]

I BET the same people complaining about Grimsley are the same people yelling "school choice". Guilford County is a great example of what school choice should look like. Guilford County has two high schools ranked tops in the nation and it is all part of the public school system. People want to say that sports in being put ahead of the academics, but at these academies the kids are getting a really good academic experience.

No Football player is going to Grimsley, just because of academics. If you believe that, let me get you the next winning power ball ticket for 20k 😂 They’re winning football games that’s it. Talk about clueless. They start taking L’s and kids will vacate faster than a zoo releasing skunks 🦨 into a food court. 🤷🏾‍♂️😂

 

[justchilln]

Under scheduling to get a good seed? Honda, have you heard of RPI. 60% of the index is derived from your opponents win % and their Opponents win %. Schedule cupcakes and your RPI suffers. Ask Dudley.
How soon do you forget last year when a two loss Weddington got the #1 seed? And your ‘portal’ knowledge about Grimsley come largely from Pagepirate44 who is about the most anti-Grimsley voice there is. After 60 years, you’re not retired; you are just not relevant any longer. Enjoy the game, the competition and these great young athletes.

Oh yeah, Weddington beat Grimsley last year with their physicality. But guess who got physically whipped last night?

They aren't "under scheduling". Where do you get that from??? You play the schools that will play you and the teams that are in your conference. Who would you like to see Grimsley play??? And keep in mind, out if state trips do not come without cost...

 

[EastlandEagle704]

Unnecessary. There is plenty of competition in NC.

It wouldn’t say it’s necessary but it’s a good experience for the kids and it’s good for the state, NC schools competing against (and beating) elite out of state competition just draws more eyes to NC talent.

 

[justchilln]

No Football player is going to Grimsley, just because of academics. If you believe that, let me get you the next winning power ball ticket for 20k 😂 They’re winning football games that’s it. Talk about clueless. They start taking L’s and kids will vacate faster than a zoo releasing skunks 🦨 into a food court. 🤷🏾‍♂️😂

It is definitely part of the equation.

 

[Ukcatz92]

Weddington got absolutely shredded in the 2nd half. I called it, Faizon Brandon was the difference

 

[justchilln]

It wouldn’t say it’s necessary but it’s a good experience for the kids and it’s good for the state, NC schools competing against (and beating) elite out of state competition just draws more eyes to NC talent.

In season play isn't what gets eyes on North Carolina. Camps, 7v7 tournaments. Those things get eyes on NC players. 5 of the top 50 recruites in the class of 2026 are from North Carolina. We get plenty of exposure outside of the actual season.

 

[RammanuelKant]

They aren't "under scheduling". Where do you get that from??? You play the schools that will play you and the teams that are in your conference. Who would you like to see Grimsley play??? And keep in mind, out if state trips do not come without cost.

I was responding to Honda the Curmudgeon. I agree, only George Washington in Danville has a decent cachet. Richmond is three hours away and Georgia out of the question financially. Guilford County is struggling with a billion dollar bond to upgrade and build new schools. Seemingly expensive out of state trips for football aren’t good political moves. Districts like Wake and Meck are growing seemingly opening new schools every year. In Guilford, the newest school is Northern Guilford which is now nearly 20 years old. Our program is doing just fine and these attempts to criticize b/c we don’t play out of state schools is sorest of grapes.

 

[justchilln]

Weddington got absolutely shredded in the 2nd half. I called it, Faizon Brandon was the difference

It wasn't just Faizon. Weddington looked to be playing man no one could cover #1. He had three receiving TD's and another big 3rd down catch at the end of the game.

 

[EastlandEagle704]

In season play isn't what gets eyes on North Carolina. Camps, 7v7 tournaments. Those things get eyes on NC players. 5 of the top 50 recruites in the class of 2026 are from North Carolina. We get plenty of exposure outside of the actual season.

You’re just being obtuse at this point. Scouts are definitely showing up to see elite teams play each other, the 4&5 star player will always get their opportunities but those fringe guys can benefit from going to a state like GA and balling out against one of their top programs. No college team is bringing on talent based solely on their spring tape and 7 on 7 (read practice).

 

[nepsy7]

It is definitely part of the equation.

Greensboro’s finest aren’t showing up to Grimsley because they all want to go to Yale🤷🏾‍♂️😂 It’s Football 🏈 No different than going to Hough which is more than 60% white. I looked in the stands when we played them. I thought I was at an HBCU homecoming. Win and they will come. You really don’t have to recruit. Some schools do it better than others. Make it legal Statewide, and keep it moving.

 

[Veek45]

You’re just being obtuse at this point. Scouts are definitely showing up to see elite teams play each other, the 4&5 star player will always get their opportunities but those fringe guys can benefit from going to a state like GA and balling out against one of their top programs. No college team is bringing on talent based solely on their spring tape and 7 on 7 (read practice).

Someone like Summers doing what he does against teams like Maury and Phoebus out of Va or Dutch Fork and Northwestern out of Sc would all but guarantee him a few fbs offers. Even the 4-5 stars should see some elite competition at the start of the season.

 

[nepsy7]

Someone like Summers doing what he does against teams like Maury and Phoebus out of Va or Dutch Fork and Northwestern out of Sc would all but guarantee him a few fbs offers. Even the 4-5 stars should see some elite competition at the start of the season.

Exactly! We have quite a few kids going D1 this year because of our schedule. Colleges coaches show up big time when playing a competitive schedule. I’ve seen the difference in scout attendance from playing mid of the meal, vs national power.

 

[mpj2k8]

Charlotte schools are on the boarder with SC so it is easy for them to schedule "out of state" schools. Mallard Creek is the only program that seems to actually travel and it doesn look like that has helped them much.

My point about scheduling out of state competition for Grimsley has nothing to do with being battle tested to win a championship. Grimsley won the title a few years ago and beat a really good Butler team along the way and didn’t play a single out of state opponent.

My gripe is Grimsley to have “Greensboro All Star” team with some of the state’s best talent that were from other schools and to only be interested in beating up NC schools is shameful. I am speaking from a non conference schedule perspective. Weddington, Hough and even Myers Park (when they were a destination school for a couple of years) at least represented the state of NC. To use the excuse about the Charlotte schools being close to the border when a few of the schools traveled north for games is a cop out.

 

[mrhonda]

Under scheduling to get a good seed? Honda, have you heard of RPI. 60% of the index is derived from your opponents win % and their Opponents win %. Schedule cupcakes and your RPI suffers. Ask Dudley.
How soon do you forget last year when a two loss Weddington got the #1 seed? And your ‘portal’ knowledge about Grimsley come largely from Pagepirate44 who is about the most anti-Grimsley voice there is. After 60 years, you’re not retired; you are just not relevant any longer. Enjoy the game, the competition and these great young athletes.

Oh yeah, Weddington beat Grimsley last year with their physicality. But guess who got physically whipped last night?

Like I said earlier....I really don't care. And not relevant any longer? That's what's always said when one has no answers.

 

[PagePirates44]

With Grimsley they've gotten kids from all over the county to transfer in over the past 4-5 years, the biggest one of this year was Ryan Debow from Northwest Guilford, amongst others.

The biggest part of the portal was how they were funneling youth players into their feeder middle school and they were grandfathered in to Grimsley. Looking at the JV teams over the past few years, it has worked. But, the middle school, Kiser, went 0-7 this year and had a very very tough time on offense. With the AD retired, things may be drying up in that department.

When Page had Gillespie as coach, and was one of the top programs in the state from 2008-2018, we went out of state and scheduled Highland Springs, Va out of Richmond. At the time they were one of the top programs in Virginia. It's not hard to schedule an out of state school, especially with all the money that Grimsley seemingly has from all these sponsors.

 

[mrhonda]

Ummmmmmm, if it isn't helping them win a championship it really isn't helping. And YOU are upset that Grimsley has been good enough to have home games throughout the playoffs. That is every teams goal...

Maybe you will get your wish next season, in terms of Grimsley playing an out of state school.

Right and Santa will come bearing gifts in the middle of June

 

[mrhonda]

Greensboro’s finest aren’t showing up to Grimsley because they all want to go to Yale🤷🏾‍♂️😂 It’s Football 🏈 No different than going to Hough which is more than 60% white. I looked in the stands when we played them. I thought I was at an HBCU homecoming. Win and they will come. You really don’t have to recruit. Some schools do it better than others. Make it legal Statewide, and keep it moving.

They do that in Florida.

 

[PagePirates44]

Under scheduling to get a good seed? Honda, have you heard of RPI. 60% of the index is derived from your opponents win % and their Opponents win %. Schedule cupcakes and your RPI suffers. Ask Dudley.
How soon do you forget last year when a two loss Weddington got the #1 seed? And your ‘portal’ knowledge about Grimsley come largely from Pagepirate44 who is about the most anti-Grimsley voice there is. After 60 years, you’re not retired; you are just not relevant any longer. Enjoy the game, the competition and these great young athletes.

Oh yeah, Weddington beat Grimsley last year with their physicality. But guess who got physically whipped last night?

It's funny how spreading awareness and truth is considered naysaying or being anti-Grimsley. If it's considered being anti, then a real look in the mirror needs to be done.... if what has been going on has that much of an anti/negative impact of peoples perception of Grimsley. That's not the type of energy you would want your program to exude to the general public.

 

[Warhead1]

Recruit this Recruit that. Weddington should've won! They lost when they should have went up by 2 possession and came away with no points. Their defense was exposed in the 2nd half bad. Weddington had no clue how to line up in the 3rd & 4th Quarter on D. The corner for Weddington was left alone in Man all night and Grimsley's QB & #1 went off.

 

[nepsy7]

Recruit this Recruit that. Weddington should've won! They lost when they should have went up by 2 possession and came away with no points. Their defense was exposed in the 2nd half bad. Weddington had no clue how to line up in the 3rd & 4th Quarter on D. The corner for Weddington was left alone in Man all night and Grimsley's QB & #1 went off.

Spread them out with a passing game, and that front seven that everyone’s slobs over, is useless. Why they didn’t come out throwing, was a head scratcher.

 

[SWE'98]

Definitely right about that. It's the best high school football team in America. 🙄

I'll be glad when Weddington beats Grimsley. This has turned into a Grimsley fan page.

Lol.