Can we get a link to the crime report for the schools for last school year? I find those things interesting and they can also be deceiving. If "rankings" are based on strict numbers then enrollment numbers can slant them. In addition I have seen that what some schools report others deal with it differently although they are in the same system. From year to year a change in admin or the administrator decking with the problem can make the reporting skew.
I think all schools have issues some more serious than others and some made to appear more serious than others. There is no doubt that AHS has gotten a worse rap than probably deserved and that the school is full of great kids but one really bad incident causes a much stronger response both with factual info and false but that results from an in incident.
When there is a gang problem in a community that problem creeps into the high school whether it is Compton HS or their rival Centennial or AHS. Is there gang activity in Albemarle and / or Stanly County?
Can we get a link to the crime report for the schools for last school year? I find those things interesting and they can also be deceiving. If "rankings" are based on strict numbers then enrollment numbers can slant them. In addition I have seen that what some schools report others deal with it differently although they are in the same system. From year to year a change in admin or the administrator decking with the problem can make the reporting skew.
I think all schools have issues some more serious than others and some made to appear more serious than others. There is no doubt that AHS has gotten a worse rap than probably deserved and that the school is full of great kids but one really bad incident causes a much stronger response both with factual info and false but that results from an in incident.
When there is a gang problem in a community that problem creeps into the high school whether it is Compton HS or their rival Centennial or AHS. Is there gang activity in Albemarle and / or Stanly County?
Back to football for a sec. . . .
Did AHS not have a preseason scrimmage last night?
You been to any of other communities btango? I mean you are speaking of it like you are experienced. You been to south side Chicago, over the Rhine in Cincinnati, Compton? I think the answer is no.
In regards to Albemarle yes there is some "gangs" nothing like the bloods and crips you find in major metro areas like Compton south side Chicago etc. now as I stated before there are the same issues in ALL county schools. I will look for the link. But unless you know for fact that's not a fair assumption to the great kids in AHS. You need to really check yourself and what you are talking about. I understand most hate AHS because they probably smashed in you in one sport or another and that's really where this hate comes from. Honestly seeing this board I don't blame them.
You all should really be ashamed, honestly there are a bunch of great kids in this school. A matter of fact you saying this stuff proves you have never really spent time on campus or know any of these kids.
They were at Eastern Randolph jamboree today.Back to football for a sec. . . .
Did AHS not have a preseason scrimmage last night?
I have lived in New York City when it was still experiencing major issues. Have spent several weeks at a time working and living with friends in LA. Lived in New Orleans for a few months. Worked with minority's kids in urban areas.
Btango Earnhardt anything else to say? After what you said you can apologize on here as I am sure you are aware that a lot of students watch this board. I think as men you all should be ashamed. This has gotten off football or athletics even and you were blasting kids because they attend a certain HS. Know your facts. I am sure you can see by the crime reports since you know Compton etc that is highly unlikely to have gang activity in a school with crime reports so low.
Thanks for the report.
The crime report you linked does not in any way reflect if there is or is not gang related activity. Most of ths a kid bringing alcohol or some type of drip to school. I doubt very few are assaults are reported even if their are fights. No list of intimidation would be on the report.
Let me make it clear and reiterate what I wrote in an earlier post that appears to have been overlooked. I think AHS has been treated bad by the school system and the county. I think the rap they have received is way more than severe than deserved.
Actually btango it is a report of ALL reported HS crimes. 74% like you said were drug or alcohol related. So way to be dismissive of the report. Additionally I think you will agree with your experience that a big part of gang issues in schools are drug related. Typically schools with gang issues in any fashion would in fact of a very high crime rate and definitely not UNDER the state avg likeAHS and SS wouldn't you agree?
Interesting you still said nothing of WSHS and NSHS being not only the top two schools per this report but also above the state avg.
I have lived in New York City when it was still experiencing major issues. Have spent several weeks at a time working and living with friends in LA. Lived in New Orleans for a few months. Worked with minority kids in urban areas.
When a local judge and law enforcement tell me there are gang influenced issues with AHS students and criminal defense attorneys tell me they represent AHS kids that are aligned with a gang I figure there are gang related issues at the school.
Read my full post. I wrote there are great kids at AHS and the school has gotten a worse than deserved bad rap.
Nation, I don't have a dog in this argument but if you honestly think AHS doesn't have gang activity then you are badly mistaken. They might not be high profile gangs but pretty much every school has gang members. AHS probably does have good kids as other schools do but that doesn't make them gang free. JMO
I have no idea of the atmosphere in any of the schools in Stanly County, whether it relates to crime or to gangs. What I do know is that the numbers reported to the state are only as good as the integrity of the folks reporting them. A lot of incidents get swept under the rug in many schools and are not reported.You are right. Beung naive dies not work for the betterment of our schools and kids.
I have no idea of the atmosphere in any of the schools in Stanly County, whether it relates to crime or to gangs. What I do know is that the numbers reported to the state are only as good as the integrity of the folks reporting them. A lot of incidents get swept under the rug in many schools and are not reported.
I would strongly urge all posters to refrain from posting about the gang activity or influence. at AHS. Sure there is probably some but discussing it on here does not help the problem. I think the problem needs to be handled by law enforcement and the adminstration at the school. Discussing it on a public forum not only hurts the good kids but solves nothing. Yes I'm sure the kids read these forums. If I have one complaint about NCPreps it is that we all to often get off target for what this board is all about. Discussing HS football and really nothing else. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. Thanks
Nation, I don't have a dog in this argument but if you honestly think AHS doesn't have gang activity then you are badly mistaken. They might not be high profile gangs but pretty much every school has gang members. AHS probably does have good kids as other schools do but that doesn't make them gang free. JMO
LOL your an idiot
If you look what I said and I was very clear. AHS has the same problems as other HS. They are not perfect not saying they are however the report speaks for itself. To be honest unless you have walked the halls of AHS you don't have any right to say anything. Especially statements with no backing nor proof.
The statement I am combating was made by btango and supported by Earnhardt who has never said anything with merit was the following "gang activity at AHS has torn apart that once great school". That statement is untrue false and completely ridiculous. What's torn apart AHS is the pulling of resources out of the school as well as moving out really good teachers to other county schools. That's a fact.
Well stated. The so called report does not capture whether gang activity exists.
When the self-righteous tells everyone that everything is fine when it isn't, the kids fall further behind. Look at how the tax referendum failed.
Again, thanks for supporting the truth.
That statement is true, and btango and others who have talked with law enforcement know its true. Burying ones head in the sand and doubling down on your fallacies are not the solution. The school's enrollment bottomed out to near 400 this past year. If things are so wonderful at AHS, why has enrollment bottomed out?
Yes I am aware my precious AHS kids read this. I will always stand up for them especially in this situation. By the way that report was submitted by the SRO's of each school in the state Not the school admin.
Like I said before any experience with gang activity in schools will clearly show the increase of violence and drugs in schools both of which are reported crimes in this report. You can turn this anyway you want bottom line is I have once again provided documented proof and you have displayed once again your uneducated opinion. Until you can combat the info given in this report you have nothing therefore no ground to stand on.
In the future when you plan on bashing KIDS at a school one you shouldn't because again they are kids but two atleast have some sort of proof to back you up. Otherwise you lose complete credibility and look like an ass.
Once again an apology is owed to all the kids at AHS for your unfounded characterization of them. The attacks on them are ridiculous and needs to stop. Talk football or any sport is fine cheer your team on but do not characterize kids at a school like this when you do not know. And that is a fact.
I have not attacked your kids. Saying a school has been hurt by gang activity is not an attack on AHS kids. I expect most AHS kids can differentiate what I'm stating.
Great job on not responding anymore!!! LOL
Except you are not stating a fact again what proof do you have? Did btango talk to the SRO at AHS?
I know many police officers and sheriff's department members in the Albemarle community and there is clearly and issue with gangs. Bloods and Crips are the prominent two. You can ask any officer and they will tell you. We have a vast amount of athletes that are not playing sports or have left the school system as a result of gangs within Albemarle High School. If you think gangs are not a problem then you surely have blinders on. Pick any person in law enforcement and simply ask the question. In the stat on violence within the county schools, that can be dependent on what is actually reported to the police department or which issues involve charges. I also know a few current and past teachers/administrators from AHS and violence is a major issue as well. If you think that NS, WS, and SS have more violence than AHS then you also have blinders on. Again, simply ask those who work there. Maybe adding additional students will help the situation. I want nothing more than to see AHS get back to the glory days but I am just not sure how that is going to happen. We will have to wait and see.I have not attacked your kids. Saying a school has been hurt by gang activity is not an attack on AHS kids. I expect most AHS kids can differentiate what I'm stating.
Great job on not responding anymore!!! LOL
Ok, folks time to move on and get back to football!
Just delete this thread all they are interested in doing is bashing AHS.
Oh calm down. No one on this thread bashed AHS. You derailed the thread when I mentioned a TRUTH about the school.
The report I shared was truth, what you shared was simply an uneducated opinion backed by nothing. See the bias is so incredible that even a report that was submitted by SRO's you all want to debate. Those are the facts despite what your little minds want to believe. Just admit it AHS although still having normal HS issues is not as bad as you all believe. Those are the numbers yet you still want to debate when you have nothing. Smh just keep bashing them and then in a year or two after having the stability back and AHS begins to get back to the great school under the new leadership and they are smacking you all around again, I can sit here and smile. Believe it or not AHS will be in its way back to the top.
Show me something factual about where gang activity was the downturn of AHS And not the BOE's ripping of resources and outlay of plans to shutter AHS. I will wait......
Stop derailing the thread.
Quit bashing AHS!!!!! You have nothing no facts your credibility is at 0. My point is proven good day.
Except you are not stating a fact again what proof do you have? Did btango talk to the SRO at AHS?