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Thanks god it finally come to me. KW23 was his screen name. Just thinking, him and triplej could have a ball on here together. Sure hope he's OK.
 
Can we get a link to the crime report for the schools for last school year? I find those things interesting and they can also be deceiving. If "rankings" are based on strict numbers then enrollment numbers can slant them. In addition I have seen that what some schools report others deal with it differently although they are in the same system. From year to year a change in admin or the administrator decking with the problem can make the reporting skew.

I think all schools have issues some more serious than others and some made to appear more serious than others. There is no doubt that AHS has gotten a worse rap than probably deserved and that the school is full of great kids but one really bad incident causes a much stronger response both with factual info and false but that results from an in incident.

When there is a gang problem in a community that problem creeps into the high school whether it is Compton HS or their rival Centennial or AHS. Is there gang activity in Albemarle and / or Stanly County?

You been to any of other communities btango? I mean you are speaking of it like you are experienced. You been to south side Chicago, over the Rhine in Cincinnati, Compton? I think the answer is no.

In regards to Albemarle yes there is some "gangs" nothing like the bloods and crips you find in major metro areas like Compton south side Chicago etc. now as I stated before there are the same issues in ALL county schools. I will look for the link. But unless you know for fact that's not a fair assumption to the great kids in AHS. You need to really check yourself and what you are talking about. I understand most hate AHS because they probably smashed in you in one sport or another and that's really where this hate comes from. Honestly seeing this board I don't blame them.

You all should really be ashamed, honestly there are a bunch of great kids in this school. A matter of fact you saying this stuff proves you have never really spent time on campus or know any of these kids.
 
Can we get a link to the crime report for the schools for last school year? I find those things interesting and they can also be deceiving. If "rankings" are based on strict numbers then enrollment numbers can slant them. In addition I have seen that what some schools report others deal with it differently although they are in the same system. From year to year a change in admin or the administrator decking with the problem can make the reporting skew.

I think all schools have issues some more serious than others and some made to appear more serious than others. There is no doubt that AHS has gotten a worse rap than probably deserved and that the school is full of great kids but one really bad incident causes a much stronger response both with factual info and false but that results from an in incident.

When there is a gang problem in a community that problem creeps into the high school whether it is Compton HS or their rival Centennial or AHS. Is there gang activity in Albemarle and / or Stanly County?

http://www.stanlycountync.gov/wp-content/upLoads/2012/10/Mar_11_2016.pdf
 


Btango Earnhardt anything else to say? After what you said you can apologize on here as I am sure you are aware that a lot of students watch this board. I think as men you all should be ashamed. This has gotten off football or athletics even and you were blasting kids because they attend a certain HS. Know your facts. I am sure you can see by the crime reports since you know Compton etc that is highly unlikely to have gang activity in a school with crime reports so low.
 
You been to any of other communities btango? I mean you are speaking of it like you are experienced. You been to south side Chicago, over the Rhine in Cincinnati, Compton? I think the answer is no.

In regards to Albemarle yes there is some "gangs" nothing like the bloods and crips you find in major metro areas like Compton south side Chicago etc. now as I stated before there are the same issues in ALL county schools. I will look for the link. But unless you know for fact that's not a fair assumption to the great kids in AHS. You need to really check yourself and what you are talking about. I understand most hate AHS because they probably smashed in you in one sport or another and that's really where this hate comes from. Honestly seeing this board I don't blame them.

You all should really be ashamed, honestly there are a bunch of great kids in this school. A matter of fact you saying this stuff proves you have never really spent time on campus or know any of these kids.

I have lived in New York City when it was still experiencing major issues. Have spent several weeks at a time working and living with friends in LA. Lived in New Orleans for a few months. Worked with minority kids in urban areas.

When a local judge and law enforcement tell me there are gang influenced issues with AHS students and criminal defense attorneys tell me they represent AHS kids that are aligned with a gang I figure there are gang related issues at the school.

Read my full post. I wrote there are great kids at AHS and the school has gotten a worse than deserved bad rap.
 
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I have lived in New York City when it was still experiencing major issues. Have spent several weeks at a time working and living with friends in LA. Lived in New Orleans for a few months. Worked with minority's kids in urban areas.


Great then you of all people should know what gang violence in schools looks like. As you can see from that report does that look like a school with gang issues my friend? Btango I love debating with you on different issues and have respect for you but on this issue you missed badly. Unfortunately this is a problem in the county giving AHS a bad name when in fact AHS still has a bunch of great kids and instead of supporting these kids and rallying behind them as a community you as well as others throw up useless and unfounded statements when the facts speak differently. Now in the city of Albemarle as proven time and time again with study after study when Albemarle schools are doing well the county is doing well. You look at the county where are all the stores and restaurants by majority? Now instead of taking a realistic look and looking at how we can Better our schools and unify our community what happens they close oakboro. Why? It was bringing in people from other counties because of the incredible EC program. Everybody says it's about change. Lol Seriously. We have community leaders attacking and still bringing down our city school. We are taking great programs and tearing them apart like with oakboro.

Sorry. I am disappointed how this is brought up when the facts speak differently. Apologies are owed to the students of AHS because of all the BS being said about those kids. Smh. I wonder what would have been said of AHS was leading that report? Funny how nothing was really said about it. Even more interesting you didn't in your last comment. I hope this message thread is deleted because it feeds to the false pretenses about AHS.
 
Btango Earnhardt anything else to say? After what you said you can apologize on here as I am sure you are aware that a lot of students watch this board. I think as men you all should be ashamed. This has gotten off football or athletics even and you were blasting kids because they attend a certain HS. Know your facts. I am sure you can see by the crime reports since you know Compton etc that is highly unlikely to have gang activity in a school with crime reports so low.

Thanks for the report.

The crime report you linked does not in any way reflect if there is or is not gang related activity. Most of ths a kid bringing alcohol or some type of drip to school. I doubt very few are assaults are reported even if their are fights. No list of intimidation would be on the report.

Let me make it clear and reiterate what I wrote in an earlier post that appears to have been overlooked. I think AHS has been treated bad by the school system and the county. I think the rap they have received is way more than severe than deserved.
 
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Thanks for the report.

The crime report you linked does not in any way reflect if there is or is not gang related activity. Most of ths a kid bringing alcohol or some type of drip to school. I doubt very few are assaults are reported even if their are fights. No list of intimidation would be on the report.

Let me make it clear and reiterate what I wrote in an earlier post that appears to have been overlooked. I think AHS has been treated bad by the school system and the county. I think the rap they have received is way more than severe than deserved.

Actually btango it is a report of ALL reported HS crimes. 74% like you said were drug or alcohol related. So way to be dismissive of the report. Additionally I think you will agree with your experience that a big part of gang issues in schools are drug related. Typically schools with gang issues in any fashion would in fact of a very high crime rate and definitely not UNDER the state avg likeAHS and SS wouldn't you agree?

Interesting you still said nothing of WSHS and NSHS being not only the top two schools per this report but also above the state avg.
 
Actually btango it is a report of ALL reported HS crimes. 74% like you said were drug or alcohol related. So way to be dismissive of the report. Additionally I think you will agree with your experience that a big part of gang issues in schools are drug related. Typically schools with gang issues in any fashion would in fact of a very high crime rate and definitely not UNDER the state avg likeAHS and SS wouldn't you agree?

Interesting you still said nothing of WSHS and NSHS being not only the top two schools per this report but also above the state avg.


Nation, I don't have a dog in this argument but if you honestly think AHS doesn't have gang activity then you are badly mistaken. They might not be high profile gangs but pretty much every school has gang members. AHS probably does have good kids as other schools do but that doesn't make them gang free. JMO
 
I have lived in New York City when it was still experiencing major issues. Have spent several weeks at a time working and living with friends in LA. Lived in New Orleans for a few months. Worked with minority kids in urban areas.

When a local judge and law enforcement tell me there are gang influenced issues with AHS students and criminal defense attorneys tell me they represent AHS kids that are aligned with a gang I figure there are gang related issues at the school.

Read my full post. I wrote there are great kids at AHS and the school has gotten a worse than deserved bad rap.

Well stated. The so called report does not capture whether gang activity exists.

When the self-righteous tells everyone that everything is fine when it isn't, the kids fall further behind. Look at how the tax referendum failed.

Again, thanks for supporting the truth.
 
Nation, I don't have a dog in this argument but if you honestly think AHS doesn't have gang activity then you are badly mistaken. They might not be high profile gangs but pretty much every school has gang members. AHS probably does have good kids as other schools do but that doesn't make them gang free. JMO

You are right. Being naive dies not work for the betterment of our schools and kids.
 
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You are right. Beung naive dies not work for the betterment of our schools and kids.
I have no idea of the atmosphere in any of the schools in Stanly County, whether it relates to crime or to gangs. What I do know is that the numbers reported to the state are only as good as the integrity of the folks reporting them. A lot of incidents get swept under the rug in many schools and are not reported.
 
I have no idea of the atmosphere in any of the schools in Stanly County, whether it relates to crime or to gangs. What I do know is that the numbers reported to the state are only as good as the integrity of the folks reporting them. A lot of incidents get swept under the rug in many schools and are not reported.

100 percent correct.
 
I would strongly urge all posters to refrain from posting about the gang activity or influence. at AHS. Sure there is probably some but discussing it on here does not help the problem. I think the problem needs to be handled by law enforcement and the adminstration at the school. Discussing it on a public forum not only hurts the good kids but solves nothing. Yes I'm sure the kids read these forums. If I have one complaint about NCPreps it is that we all to often get off target for what this board is all about. Discussing HS football and really nothing else. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. Thanks
 
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I would strongly urge all posters to refrain from posting about the gang activity or influence. at AHS. Sure there is probably some but discussing it on here does not help the problem. I think the problem needs to be handled by law enforcement and the adminstration at the school. Discussing it on a public forum not only hurts the good kids but solves nothing. Yes I'm sure the kids read these forums. If I have one complaint about NCPreps it is that we all to often get off target for what this board is all about. Discussing HS football and really nothing else. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. Thanks

Exactly buddy rich. I love it a report by the crimes reported AHS is not 1 or 2 and it's like well then it's this. Get back to talking football. Leave the kids alone you don't know never knew you specifically Earnhardt don't even live close to here. Get out of here with your nonsense. The facts are there in front of you. Below state avg. enough said, anybody who knows anything about schools with gang activity knows for a fact that the crimes reported would be 10x this easily. And trust me the admin at AHS would report it they are working hard at getting the stability back. Know the facts unless you got proof that says otherwise you have nothing and an apology needs to be made to these kids at AHS. Period
 
Nation, I don't have a dog in this argument but if you honestly think AHS doesn't have gang activity then you are badly mistaken. They might not be high profile gangs but pretty much every school has gang members. AHS probably does have good kids as other schools do but that doesn't make them gang free. JMO

If you look what I said and I was very clear. AHS has the same problems as other HS. They are not perfect not saying they are however the report speaks for itself. To be honest unless you have walked the halls of AHS you don't have any right to say anything. Especially statements with no backing nor proof.

The statement I am combating was made by btango and supported by Earnhardt who has never said anything with merit was the following "gang activity at AHS has torn apart that once great school". That statement is untrue false and completely ridiculous. What's torn apart AHS is the pulling of resources out of the school as well as moving out really good teachers to other county schools. That's a fact.
 
If you look what I said and I was very clear. AHS has the same problems as other HS. They are not perfect not saying they are however the report speaks for itself. To be honest unless you have walked the halls of AHS you don't have any right to say anything. Especially statements with no backing nor proof.

The statement I am combating was made by btango and supported by Earnhardt who has never said anything with merit was the following "gang activity at AHS has torn apart that once great school". That statement is untrue false and completely ridiculous. What's torn apart AHS is the pulling of resources out of the school as well as moving out really good teachers to other county schools. That's a fact.

That statement is true, and btango and others who have talked with law enforcement know its true. Burying ones head in the sand and doubling down on your fallacies are not the solution. The school's enrollment bottomed out to near 400 this past year. If things are so wonderful at AHS, why has enrollment bottomed out?
 
Well stated. The so called report does not capture whether gang activity exists.

When the self-righteous tells everyone that everything is fine when it isn't, the kids fall further behind. Look at how the tax referendum failed.

Again, thanks for supporting the truth.


Yes I am aware my precious AHS kids read this. I will always stand up for them especially in this situation. By the way that report was submitted by the SRO's of each school in the state Not the school admin.

Like I said before any experience with gang activity in schools will clearly show the increase of violence and drugs in schools both of which are reported crimes in this report. You can turn this anyway you want bottom line is I have once again provided documented proof and you have displayed once again your uneducated opinion. Until you can combat the info given in this report you have nothing therefore no ground to stand on.

In the future when you plan on bashing KIDS at a school one you shouldn't because again they are kids but two atleast have some sort of proof to back you up. Otherwise you lose complete credibility and look like an ass.

Once again an apology is owed to all the kids at AHS for your unfounded characterization of them. The attacks on them are ridiculous and needs to stop. Talk football or any sport is fine cheer your team on but do not characterize kids at a school like this when you do not know. And that is a fact.
 
That statement is true, and btango and others who have talked with law enforcement know its true. Burying ones head in the sand and doubling down on your fallacies are not the solution. The school's enrollment bottomed out to near 400 this past year. If things are so wonderful at AHS, why has enrollment bottomed out?

We have 500 kids in our school this year. Keep in mind everyone that once again did not know anything said AHS was going to close all resources that were there 3 years ago were ripped out. They did open enrollment without a principal an AD football coach etc. the instability and drama filled situation created by people like yourself drove kids away from AHS. I can't blame them either, even though I wish they would have stayed kids were tired of being in the middle of it. But the great thing is that's over the stability is coming back and with new leadership I am hoping for brighter days not only for AHS but all stably county schools. Unlike you all I have kids in this school system so it's important to me all the way around for our schools to really strive to get better.
 
Yes I am aware my precious AHS kids read this. I will always stand up for them especially in this situation. By the way that report was submitted by the SRO's of each school in the state Not the school admin.

Like I said before any experience with gang activity in schools will clearly show the increase of violence and drugs in schools both of which are reported crimes in this report. You can turn this anyway you want bottom line is I have once again provided documented proof and you have displayed once again your uneducated opinion. Until you can combat the info given in this report you have nothing therefore no ground to stand on.

In the future when you plan on bashing KIDS at a school one you shouldn't because again they are kids but two atleast have some sort of proof to back you up. Otherwise you lose complete credibility and look like an ass.

Once again an apology is owed to all the kids at AHS for your unfounded characterization of them. The attacks on them are ridiculous and needs to stop. Talk football or any sport is fine cheer your team on but do not characterize kids at a school like this when you do not know. And that is a fact.

I have not attacked your kids. Saying a school has been hurt by gang activity is not an attack on AHS kids. I expect most AHS kids can differentiate what I'm stating.

Great job on not responding anymore!!! LOL
 
I have not attacked your kids. Saying a school has been hurt by gang activity is not an attack on AHS kids. I expect most AHS kids can differentiate what I'm stating.

Great job on not responding anymore!!! LOL

Except you are not stating a fact again what proof do you have? Did btango talk to the SRO at AHS?
 
I have not attacked your kids. Saying a school has been hurt by gang activity is not an attack on AHS kids. I expect most AHS kids can differentiate what I'm stating.

Great job on not responding anymore!!! LOL
I know many police officers and sheriff's department members in the Albemarle community and there is clearly and issue with gangs. Bloods and Crips are the prominent two. You can ask any officer and they will tell you. We have a vast amount of athletes that are not playing sports or have left the school system as a result of gangs within Albemarle High School. If you think gangs are not a problem then you surely have blinders on. Pick any person in law enforcement and simply ask the question. In the stat on violence within the county schools, that can be dependent on what is actually reported to the police department or which issues involve charges. I also know a few current and past teachers/administrators from AHS and violence is a major issue as well. If you think that NS, WS, and SS have more violence than AHS then you also have blinders on. Again, simply ask those who work there. Maybe adding additional students will help the situation. I want nothing more than to see AHS get back to the glory days but I am just not sure how that is going to happen. We will have to wait and see.
 
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Once again not disagreeing in regards to community however not so in AHS the report speaks for itself. Anybody knows that with a high volume of gang activity within the school as stated you would see an increase in drugs and violence. Read the report then combat that with facts which amazingly nobody can provide. Interesting. Argue facts not opinions. Once again read the report. That report clearly stated ALL reported crimes.

Their statement was that was the downturn of AHS so therefore the actions by the BOE had no bearing on AHS? Really? Smh
 
Albemarle essentially has a JV team. Only a handful of juniors and seniors will be on this team. The Bulldogs will stuggle a lot at the beginning of the season. I see 2 wins on the schedule and possibly a 3rd win if they can beat Union Academy.
 
Oh calm down. No one on this thread bashed AHS. You derailed the thread when I mentioned a TRUTH about the school.

The report I shared was truth, what you shared was simply an uneducated opinion backed by nothing. See the bias is so incredible that even a report that was submitted by SRO's you all want to debate. Those are the facts despite what your little minds want to believe. Just admit it AHS although still having normal HS issues is not as bad as you all believe. Those are the numbers yet you still want to debate when you have nothing. Smh just keep bashing them and then in a year or two after having the stability back and AHS begins to get back to the great school under the new leadership and they are smacking you all around again, I can sit here and smile. Believe it or not AHS will be in its way back to the top.

Show me something factual about where gang activity was the downturn of AHS And not the BOE's ripping of resources and outlay of plans to shutter AHS. I will wait......
 
The report I shared was truth, what you shared was simply an uneducated opinion backed by nothing. See the bias is so incredible that even a report that was submitted by SRO's you all want to debate. Those are the facts despite what your little minds want to believe. Just admit it AHS although still having normal HS issues is not as bad as you all believe. Those are the numbers yet you still want to debate when you have nothing. Smh just keep bashing them and then in a year or two after having the stability back and AHS begins to get back to the great school under the new leadership and they are smacking you all around again, I can sit here and smile. Believe it or not AHS will be in its way back to the top.

Show me something factual about where gang activity was the downturn of AHS And not the BOE's ripping of resources and outlay of plans to shutter AHS. I will wait......

Stop derailing the thread.
 
Except you are not stating a fact again what proof do you have? Did btango talk to the SRO at AHS?

Considering I have known him all of his life I would think that is a very good source that I would have had a conversation about the issues at AHS but would not be the only law enforcement official I would have spoken with. Two of my closest friends are attorneys that have defended AHS students over the last few years.

I can assure you that although I do not live in town I have continually supported the program in different ways.

Whether or not gang activity drove people away I do not know and have not written this but I can tell you that many of the people that I know that left the school, both parents and teachers, did so due to worsening discipline issues in addition to the loss of educational opportunities.
 
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