It is all about geography, longitude. After 64 are picked listed in order of longitude from East to West. Then divided into 4 regions of 16 teams. Strictly by the longitudinal coordinate, no consideration for how many #1s end up in a single region.
Baseball 1A & 2A Baseball Playoff Standings as of Apr. 24
- Thread starter tarheelg
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Yes East Wilkes won as the 8 seed in the tourney. They were like 5-16 in the regular season I believe.
Ok I have mentioned on occasion my problems with new pod system for playoffs which have resulted in Eastern Randolph traveling all across the Tarheel state this year.
Well in tarheelg's latest projections it baffles me that ER which finished as co-champions of PAC6 regular season could receive a #9 seed and travel, in his latest scenario, over 2 1/2 hours for a 1st round game against a team with a worse reporting record that sits currently 3rd in their conference standings.
Now in the past proponents of the new system have extolled its virtues to me whenever I brought up its shortcomings. They like that all teams go into wild cards after 1st and a few 2nd tier seeds.
Well in ER's case, and again I know it could change, they finished 9-1 in conference 15-8 overall while the team they would TRAVEL to is currently 5-4 in conference 13-10 overall with a game left to play?
I know if ER wins 1 more game against Randleman they stay home at least in 1st round but even in that scenario they were a #5 seed and if seeds held would have been on road in 2nd round.
Did I mention they tied for regular season with Randleman at 9-1?
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Well in tarheelg's latest projections it baffles me that ER which finished as co-champions of PAC6 regular season could receive a #9 seed and travel, in his latest scenario, over 2 1/2 hours for a 1st round game against a team with a worse reporting record that sits currently 3rd in their conference standings.
Now in the past proponents of the new system have extolled its virtues to me whenever I brought up its shortcomings. They like that all teams go into wild cards after 1st and a few 2nd tier seeds.
Well in ER's case, and again I know it could change, they finished 9-1 in conference 15-8 overall while the team they would TRAVEL to is currently 5-4 in conference 13-10 overall with a game left to play?
I know if ER wins 1 more game against Randleman they stay home at least in 1st round but even in that scenario they were a #5 seed and if seeds held would have been on road in 2nd round.
Did I mention they tied for regular season with Randleman at 9-1?
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How would adding a team with an 8-16 record beef up the West? If anything, it could make the Midwest even stronger by potentially shifting a team like Mt.Airy (12-9) back to Midwest.
Beef up wasn't the best term. It adds another team to the West pod. Not sure that it would move someone from the midwest to the west though. It's all based on longitude and E Wilkes is fairly West. I just means that the loaded bottom of the East bracket may get shifted to the mideast. Also, a team that was barely in with a .350 winning% is now out.
No sir. But as things stand in projections their record in the wild cards gives them an 8 seed in east while ER would get a 9 in mideast.
Sad. Like I said in beginning comes down to non-conference strength of schedule and how you fare against those teams as to where you get seeded if you don't win conference. Now I do not know how tough this team's schedule is but if you break it down just by classifications and compare with ER's that is where I find fault with the new playoff system.
This east team played 14 non-conference games:
2 against 3A
7 against 2A
5 against 1A
Non con record 8-6.
5-4 in 2A conference with 1 left to play.
Eastern Randolph played 11 non-conference games
5 against 4A
4 Against 3A
2 against 1A
Non con record 5-6
9-1 in conference regular season
1-1 in tournament.
And if you want to go by that idiotic Maxpreps rankings ER is currently 15th in 2A while east team is 45th.
New system will encourage scheduling down if left in place so you can play at home in playoffs no matter what the sport.
Does that make teams better?
I also realize right now these are only projections but allowed me to get on my soapbox.
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Other big shakeups for the West - Cherryville falls to Pine Lake Prep in the tournament semifinals, paving the way for Lincoln Charter to gain the #1 seed from the conference. If I've looked at it correctly, Cherryville and Lincoln Charter split during the regular season and both finished 14-2 in conference. With LC advancing to the tournament finals, they should earn the #1 from their conference by default (since Cherryville went out earlier and LC advanced further).
Those same links posted above should still work....i had been updating every few days and sometimes reminding folks on twitter (@tarheel61581) and facebook but forgot to comment here for a while....I know i could be wrong but i've taken a Colossians 3:23-24 approach over the last few days (and weeks actually) to trying to dot the is and cross the ts and double check and triple check things
4A Projections before they come out in the next few hours.
The number to the left of the team is their overall seed in the region. The number in parenthesis is their "pod" seed (West, Midwest, Mideast, East)
Last 4 in: Davie, High Point Central, South View, Mallard Creek
First 4 out: Person, Riverside, Cary, Independence
West/East line: Southeast Guilford/Scotland
4A West
1 TC Roberson (1W)
30 Grimsley (16MW)
18 Richmond (8MW)
15 Alexander Central (9W)
7 Hough (5W)
25 Glenn (12MW)
10 North Davidson (4MW)
24 McDowell (13W)
5 Providence (3W)
28 High Point Central (14MW)
13 AL Brown (6MW)
20 Charlotte Catholic (11W)
12 Myers Park (7W)
21 Porter Ridge (10MW)
4 Southwest Guilford (2MW)
31 Hopewell (15W)
3 Southeast Guilford (1MW)
32 Mallard Creek (16W)
14 Ardrey Kell (8W)
19 Mount Tabor (9MW)
11 East Forsyth (5MW)
23 Olympic (12W)
6 South Caldwell (4W)
26 Page (13MW)
8 West Forsyth (3MW)
27 Mooresville (14W)
9 Butler (6W)
22 Northwest Guilford (11MW)
16 Reagan (7MW)
17 East Meck (10W)
2 Lake Norman (2W)
29 Davie (15MW)
4A East
3 Holly Springs (1ME)
30 West Johnston (16E)
17 DH Conley (8E)
16 Fuquay-Varina (9ME)
9 Pinecrest (5ME)
24 New Bern (12E)
7 Leesville Road (4E)
26 Pine Forest (13ME)
5 Cape Fear (3ME)
27 East Wake (14E)
13 Hoggard (6E)
19 Green Hope (11ME)
12 Cardinal Gibbons (7ME)
22 Clayton (10E)
2 New Hanover (2E)
31 Southern Alamance (15ME)
1 Rose (1E)
32 South View (16ME)
14 Scotland (8ME)
21 Wake Forest (9E)
10 Heritage (5E)
20 East Chapel Hill (12ME)
8 Purnell Swett (4ME)
25 Millbrook (13E)
6 Garner (3E)
29 Apex (14ME)
11 Middle Creek (6ME)
23 Ashley (11E)
15 South Central (7E)
18 Jack Britt (10ME)
4 Jordan (2ME)
28 Rolesville (15E)
The number to the left of the team is their overall seed in the region. The number in parenthesis is their "pod" seed (West, Midwest, Mideast, East)
Last 4 in: Davie, High Point Central, South View, Mallard Creek
First 4 out: Person, Riverside, Cary, Independence
West/East line: Southeast Guilford/Scotland
4A West
1 TC Roberson (1W)
30 Grimsley (16MW)
18 Richmond (8MW)
15 Alexander Central (9W)
7 Hough (5W)
25 Glenn (12MW)
10 North Davidson (4MW)
24 McDowell (13W)
5 Providence (3W)
28 High Point Central (14MW)
13 AL Brown (6MW)
20 Charlotte Catholic (11W)
12 Myers Park (7W)
21 Porter Ridge (10MW)
4 Southwest Guilford (2MW)
31 Hopewell (15W)
3 Southeast Guilford (1MW)
32 Mallard Creek (16W)
14 Ardrey Kell (8W)
19 Mount Tabor (9MW)
11 East Forsyth (5MW)
23 Olympic (12W)
6 South Caldwell (4W)
26 Page (13MW)
8 West Forsyth (3MW)
27 Mooresville (14W)
9 Butler (6W)
22 Northwest Guilford (11MW)
16 Reagan (7MW)
17 East Meck (10W)
2 Lake Norman (2W)
29 Davie (15MW)
4A East
3 Holly Springs (1ME)
30 West Johnston (16E)
17 DH Conley (8E)
16 Fuquay-Varina (9ME)
9 Pinecrest (5ME)
24 New Bern (12E)
7 Leesville Road (4E)
26 Pine Forest (13ME)
5 Cape Fear (3ME)
27 East Wake (14E)
13 Hoggard (6E)
19 Green Hope (11ME)
12 Cardinal Gibbons (7ME)
22 Clayton (10E)
2 New Hanover (2E)
31 Southern Alamance (15ME)
1 Rose (1E)
32 South View (16ME)
14 Scotland (8ME)
21 Wake Forest (9E)
10 Heritage (5E)
20 East Chapel Hill (12ME)
8 Purnell Swett (4ME)
25 Millbrook (13E)
6 Garner (3E)
29 Apex (14ME)
11 Middle Creek (6ME)
23 Ashley (11E)
15 South Central (7E)
18 Jack Britt (10ME)
4 Jordan (2ME)
28 Rolesville (15E)
Preliminary brackets are out:
https://www.nchsaa.org/sites/default/files/Baseball Seeding 1250pm.pdf
https://www.nchsaa.org/sites/default/files/Baseball Seeding 1250pm.pdf
