When Murphy abd Andrews exit the smc we will only have 4 1a team. Will the state do a split if it only has 1 2a school and 4 1a schools? Maybe smoky or Franklin will be 2a by then.
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Rosman will only have 3. But I don't see everyone in the SMC wanting to play them.
That's what I was thinking. If the new school opens in 2025 at the start of the next alignment, I imagine they'll either want Franklin and/or Smoky to go back to 2A and the SMC be a 1A/2A split, or for there to be a 2A/3A split with Franklin/Smoky/the Haywood schools/Brevard (which would then maybe send Rosman back to the SMC once there's not a 1A/2A split option that includes the other school in their county). If the school opens during this cycle, the options aren't good. But they'd almost have to just push to be the only 2A team in a 5 team 1A/2A split SMC, or else they'd have multiple trips an hour past Asheville for the farthest west current 2A conferences. If they went in with Brevard and Hendersonville, that would mean four trips to Rutherford Co in most sports. If they went in with the WHC, that would mean three trips almost to Hickory in most sports now that Draughn, Patton, and West Caldwell are in there.
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I'd like to see it too; honestly I think they could do okay in 3A. They might not win a ton of conference games but they have 6 non conference games and they could be 6 winnable ones if they schedule the right teams. South Caldwell is a mess so Ashe could get another win there.
If they do appeal and try to force Forbush out that itself will be a war.. Forbush has lusted to return to the MVAC for 7 years from beginning of the WPAC on; heck they even challenged the NW in 2008 because they were in it and they wanted to go back, so they switched with Surry Central. Forbush won't give up on anything easy.. they have the talent now to win the MVAC and they won't go because one team wants them out. I just hope it doesn't screw everything up. If they do get knocked out they would honestly fit best in the West Stokes/Forsyth conference.
That being said if the ADM data is rock solid it will be impossible to get lowered.. we almost went 3A in 2004. They were gonna put North Surry with Carver/Andrews/Glenn. That would have KILLED us back then but we got off because someone screwed up with the lifespan students and counted them with the regular kids when they shouldn't have. We got a lucky break; most of the time that doesn't happen. Ashe has been living on the 3A edge since 2013 they had a dip before that alignment which gave them a break. They got bit this time.
I could see them maybe creating a better conference with them though. If West Iredell stays down then they could switch them with Foard or something. Ashe would beat North Iredell, St Stephens, and maybe Hickory. Their rides would be longer but their results would be better.
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Just seen West Stokes isn't happy; can't say I don't blame them the Forsyth schools don't bring anything.
Honestly it would be a tough fix for them. They could either stay and dominate albeit not make much money or they could go with Reidsville and Andrews.. not an easy pick. The problem with going to the Northwest would be it would make that conference they are in now less full. It would only work if they merged 32 and 34 but that would be a 9 team league. Hard to figure any way they put it.
I just hope the lineups aren't badly ruined due to all the appeals. Farthest away from the Forsyth schools the better in my opinion.
Honestly it would be a tough fix for them. They could either stay and dominate albeit not make much money or they could go with Reidsville and Andrews.. not an easy pick. The problem with going to the Northwest would be it would make that conference they are in now less full. It would only work if they merged 32 and 34 but that would be a 9 team league. Hard to figure any way they put it.
I just hope the lineups aren't badly ruined due to all the appeals. Farthest away from the Forsyth schools the better in my opinion.
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For good gates, Forbush could help 34 or 36 but the MVAC will want to keep them if they can to help their gates. JMO
This should give North Surry a better chance for playoffs every year ?
They would benefit better in the MVAC it's what they want. Granted if they get put into West Stokes's league they would help West out quite a bit but Forbush would fight it tough and nail. The Forsyth schools wouldn't add them much in return like the MVAC schools would.
More than likely but it'll depend on how they do the playoffs. Since it's truly one class again it might just be the best 2A team. If they give each class 2 berths then certainly. All we'd have to do is beat Central every year.
In basketball Millennium Charter (1A) will probably be at the bottom for a good while because they have not been winning too often and their 2020-2021 does not have all the NWC schools on their schedule. They went 2-27 last year and 5-19 & 5-19 the year before.
This is their schedule this year but the NCHSAA could change it if they are going to be in the NWC.
Schedule - Millennium Charter Academy Lions (Mount Airy, NC) Varsity Basketball 20-21
View the 20-21 Millennium Charter Academy varsity basketball team schedule.
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In basketball Millennium Charter (1A) will probably be at the bottom for a good while because they have not been winning too often and their 2020-2021 does not have all the NWC schools on their schedule. They went 2-27 last year and 5-19 & 5-19 the year before.
This is their schedule this year but the NCHSAA could change it if they are going to be in the NWC.
Schedule - Millennium Charter Academy Lions (Mount Airy, NC) Varsity Basketball 20-21
View the 20-21 Millennium Charter Academy varsity basketball team schedule.
Yeah they won't be a threat for a while they just want to play sports.. can't say I don't blame them there. The whole Football deal is a can of worms though they'd be best to ignore it.
If they can't beat a home school team they sure can't beat any of us in Basketball or soccer lol.
I honestly think that in 4 years that every high school in WNC will have drastically higher numbers. Haywood, Jackson, Macon, Buncombe, parts of Swain, Cherokee & Transylvania Counties in particular. I'm in the architectural/building industry around here and I can tell you there has never been the influx of new home construction as their has been since the pandemic began and it's not going to slow down any time soon. Every city slicker with a big enough wallet is building a mountain getaway and they're not all just Floridian retirees anymore. The clients are getting younger and have more kids. So, I think by 2025 or whatever, the landscape will look a lot different. 1 A's might be 2 A's, 2A's might be 3A's and so forth.
I agree. Especially for communities with good broadband access. Building departments are overloaded and builders are a year or two behind. We were trying to buy a house and the only thing that even got us able to make an offer was the ridiculously low interest rate. House prices are skyrocketing and selling quickly.
If the mountains ever get it together on broadband, I think there will be a lot of growth with the ‘remote economy’ coming. It isn’t great in a lot of Cherokee Co. right now though.
And here I was looking forward to one less home school type team on the schedule every season, guess not.
I haven't seen much growth in Cherokee County but 1) there aren't exactly many housing opportunities here unless you are starting from scratch and 2) I'm not in construction or real estate so I'm not as in tune with those happenings as some are.
I will say that downtown Murphy is as busy these last few months as I've probably ever seen it so maybe I am missing something. Either way I really hope universal broadband internet access gets straightened out in this part of the state ASAP.
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At least on the east end of the county, there wasn’t much built for 15-20 years. Starting to be more built now, but supply still behind demand. I personally don’t think schools will grow much in the west by next realignment. In my experience, a lot of the young folks who dream of moving to the mountains often find out reality can’t live up to their dream, and move on in a few years. And retirees/second home types don’t put kids into the system. Plus some non traditional options are expanding that could offset any growth—Summit Charter in Jackson Co is adding high school, Shining Rock in Haywood plans to build a new school and add high schooL, TCEC is getting a new school, etc.
Dont think its that simplistic. Some areas are growing fast, I can go 20 minutes down the road into Towns County or Union County GA and both are growing, other areas not as much.
30 years ago Cherokee County had double the population of Union County, by 2030 Union will likely have as many or more people than Cherokee County.
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Chick Fil A.
But to answer more seriously, Young Harris College, great internet through the EMC in Young Harris, Hope scholarship, slightly closer to Atlanta, golf, several newer LIHTC complexes for affordable housing.
But to answer more seriously, Young Harris College, great internet through the EMC in Young Harris, Hope scholarship, slightly closer to Atlanta, golf, several newer LIHTC complexes for affordable housing.
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Cherokee County could really use some more affordable housing, before the pandemic hit there was a write up in the local paper about how there was more work in the area than there was housing to cover it.
In regards to the golf aspect O&R covered, it seems a bit silly on the surface but losing Cherokee Hills golf course was a legitimate blow to the county, especially with the casino now in place, that's a big missed opportunity. That void really needs to be filled again in the county by someone.
As for North Carolina as a whole they need to overhaul their lottery and get a system in place more on par with Georgia. Murphy lost an athlete this year to Georgia specifically for the Hope scholarship.
In regards to the golf aspect O&R covered, it seems a bit silly on the surface but losing Cherokee Hills golf course was a legitimate blow to the county, especially with the casino now in place, that's a big missed opportunity. That void really needs to be filled again in the county by someone.
As for North Carolina as a whole they need to overhaul their lottery and get a system in place more on par with Georgia. Murphy lost an athlete this year to Georgia specifically for the Hope scholarship.
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Affordable housing is an issue in many rural areas. Sadly towns don't fight for it, instead they allow wealthy individuals to build HUD housing which doesn't do anything to draw anyone. The mountains of NC in general are ridiculously expensive as far as cost of living goes. Especially housing.
The NCGA also needs to stop kicking the can around and sitting on money. They need to fund broadband access across the state.
The NCGA also needs to stop kicking the can around and sitting on money. They need to fund broadband access across the state.
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I like Tarboros proposed conference. It has rival Southwest Edgecombe, Roanoke Rapids, beddingfield, North Edgecombe, Northeast carolina prep, and Wilson prep. The latter two teams don't have football teams. But I'll take the other 4 teams over basically every team that is currently in tarboro's conference now.
Not true at all. Multiple ways in and out most of that part of the state if you actually know where you're going. The fact that it is 2 hours away from any big city is the draw, in itself. The population curve is currently spiking in a rate in which it hasn't in atleast the last 30 years. Broadband is a very important factor for a decision with a lot of people when it comes to wanting to build here but there's not many who actually back out of it just because of that. While not as good as most options, if you have the money, and if you're going to build here in the mountains then you do, then there's avenues such as long range hotspots, Sat. internet, Skyrunner, Hughes, Etc.
As far as drawing businesses and such, the infrastructure of the area isn't good imo. But with no interstate going in and out and the curvy mountain roads, transport isn't easy for businesses. Granted 74 isn't terrible. Broadband lack of really hurts that draw for business and hurts education too.
I don’t see Rosman wanting to play Murphy, Swain or Rville in football if they don’t have to.
I don't blame them but I'd doubt they win the appeal unless they move TJCA as well.
Rosman is in a bad spot either way......the travel time to TJ is probably closer than to Murphy or Andrews for them. Not sure they can compete either way.
I can’t imagine in the far west part of the state. Travel can be a challenge any time.
If you remember the rules for the 7 game season with no makeup games if snowed out for any reason. So how is it to work if some of these mountains or any teams only get In, say 5 games and others get all 7 games? The question is how will they decide the playoffs if some teams are 5 & 0 and some 7 & 0 or 5 & 2 & or 3 & 2 . Some games may not be played and NCHSAA stated no games could be made up. Crazy, but I think their intentions were to not allow spring football and just put this crap together to look like they were doing something. No football will be played till fall 2021 as I see it..... JMO..... Screwed up mess....
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