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The only football teams that will be playing at least in Buncombe County will be private schools (excluding ACA). They are scheduled to start back on the 14th. They do not have to run buses to pick kids up for school. 80% live on campus. I know Christ School already has water restored just waiting on power to bring all the kids back in.
 
I posted this on the 1a board. Yesterday in Avery Co some boys from TN that are military helping out in Avery Co came to my church in Roan MTN to get supplies because we are like a central command told me a man was found alive on Elk River stuck in mud yesterday

I principal at one of the high’s schools in Carter Co was telling my wife about man that got washed away in the river in Erwin,TN found alive in Greeneville,TN.
 
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Not surprised... one party has done all they can the past few years to cut spending and refuse to tell ppl. the truth.
"The Shelter and Services Program" (SSP) funding is set by Congress... but NOT from FEMA's disaster relief funds.
And FEMA has pretty much ALWAYS asked for more $$$ when a big one hits.
Of course, right now, NO ONE has enough money for "more" stuff b/c Congress still won't pass a budget and everyone's working with short-term with the same amount of funding as before.
 
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Yet people will still vote for these clowns in office now. Idiots!
I am going to try and explain the process the best I know. I am sure I will get mocked That is fine, but if you take the time to read it then you will be more informed than any MSNBC, Fox News, CNN, or NYPost consumer. I did not hear or read the comments so I may be missing some context, but I believe the article to be misleading. The government was in a race to spend Operation and Maintenance dollars by 30 September which expire. The hurricane went through on 27 September. So, that is bad timing for our friends in WNC. If it had gone through earlier then funding might have been available in what people like to call the "Directors Reserve" and used as aid. Most agencies are starting to receive funds as iCongress passed another continuing resolution to fund the government until December. This was done a few days before the hurricane and the spending for the next few months cannot exceed a certain 2024 signed budget threshold. The good news is funds for FEMA was in the CR. For additional funds, congress will have to vote on it. They should and need to. That is just me speaking. Also to answer the question about two pots of money. Yes and No. Most of the funding appropriated for Ukraine will come out of the Defense budget. Not 100% and the same for FEMA. Most of the appropriated funding (what Congress gives agencies) will go to the DHS and then filter on down for FEMA and Human Assistance Disaster Recovery efforts. If I am wrong someone can fact check me.
 
The New York post Hahahahahha. Not very reputable.
Congress can always appropriate more money too. This happened during Hugo, Katrina, Sandy, etc. There are people who lost everything from this storm and we have some who are using political talking points. North Carolina is a wonderful state and we need to come up with a North Carolinian solution and not a political solution.
 
Well private citizens have been doing more than our state has to help people. People like Greg Biffle and Garrett Mitchell have been flying in supplies and flying people out to safety. Hickory airport had a lot of private helicopters that had come in to help. Far away as New York. Kudos to those people. I donated to the cause that Biffle is helping. I can’t think of the name of it right off the top of my head. I’ll look it up. I intend to donate again. I’m also donating to help feed soldiers in Israel. Things that matter to me!
 
I can’t speak for everyone in Haywood County or the mountains, and Asheville is a different animal because most people there aren’t “mountain” people anymore but I don’t think most private citizens are looking or expecting much from FEMA. A lot of the roads and bridges in our areas are private, even a lot of the roads you don’t think are private. In a city, it’s almost impossible to find a private road/street, in the mountains of WNC they are plentiful. This distinction is huge when it comes to cleanup and dollars allocated. There will be no debris (organic, household, building debris, junked campers) picked up on those roads it must be moved to the nearest public road. These household items will sit on the sides of the roads far longer than you think they are going to. The debris ( metal, cars, home debris, etc) will sit for years in some of these areas if private citizens do not remove it. I’m not bashing the government I’m just saying they are very inefficiently equipped for mountain disasters and most in the mountains just accept this and move forward even though it hurts at times. Biden said they will stay with the mountains until they are back where we were pre-disaster. This is bullcrap politician talk that will not come to fruition whether it be Biden, Harris, or Trump. It makes for a good sound bite but in reality none of them have the power or means to see it through to the end, even if they wanted to. When it is all said and done Government will talk big and perform little simply due to being poorly equipped.
 
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OK after seeing the videos and pictures do we even really need to talk about high school sports?? Do we need to extend the season??? I mean the last thing I heard is something like 200+ people are dead and the ramifications of this storm may take some communities in the MTNS years if ever to rebuild and come back. They are calling this a 1000 year flood, I have no idea where you would even start to get things going again up there. Sad sad situation for those communities
 
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OK after seeing the videos and pictures do we even really need to talk about high school sports?? Do we need to extend the season??? I mean the last thing I heard is something like 200+ people are dead and the ramifications of this storm may take some communities in the MTNS years if ever to rebuild and come back. They are calling this a 1000 year flood, I have no idea where you would even start to get things going again up there. Sad sad situation for those communities
This clip is wild. I know about every road and hollar in Avery Co from riding around in a brown truck for a long time.



 
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National media barely gave adequate coverage and appears to have moved on in my opinion. I check both the NY Post and Jeff Bezo's WAPO everyday. It is just what I do. You have to know where to look to find any new stories on their pages. As many of you have said the people there are on their own supported by other people. I guess WNC is not as sexy as New Orleans to the MSM.
 
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National media barely gave adequate coverage and appears to have moved on in my opinion. I check both the NY Post and Jeff Bezo's WAPO everyday. It is just what I do. You have to know where to look to find any new stories on their pages. As many of you have said the people there are on their own supported by other people. I guess WNC is not as sexy as New Orleans to the MSM.
If you have Twitter you can search Avery Co and see a lot stuff. You can also search other counties in the MTNs
 
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National media barely gave adequate coverage and appears to have moved on in my opinion. I check both the NY Post and Jeff Bezo's WAPO everyday. It is just what I do. You have to know where to look to find any new stories on their pages. As many of you have said the people there are on their own supported by other people. I guess WNC is not as sexy as New Orleans to the MSM.
UHHH I googled it and there were plenty of stories about the flood

NBC, AP, USA today, Washington Post , NY Times , ect ect. It is a really terrible thing going on there in the MTNS. Thing is this we may never really know the true amount of damage and lives lost due to the geographical make up. Truly sad
 
UHHH I googled it and there were plenty of stories about the flood

NBC, AP, USA today, Washington Post , NY Times , ect ect. It is a really terrible thing going on there in the MTNS. Thing is this we may never really know the true amount of damage and lives lost due to the geographical make up. Truly sad
Sorry. My comment might and reading it again could be taken that it was about no stories from the national media. I agree initially there were plenty of stories. The coverage appears to have just ended on the front pages of these major sites.
 
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Don’t do facebook, give us the short version
TLDR Version: GOP Senator asking people to stop sharing conspiracy theories about govt controlling the weather, govt refusing to bury bodies or provide body bags, etc because the theories are not true and it's resulting in more panic and phone calls that's slowing down the people that are trying to help.
 
Don’t do facebook, give us the short version
This is copied and pasted from the Facebook link.

From Kevin Corbin NC Senator:

Friends can I ask a small favor? Will you all help STOP this conspiracy theory junk that is floating all over Facebook and the internet about the floods in WNC. Example: FEMA is stealing money from donations, body bags ordered but government has denied, bodies not being buried, government is controlling the weather from Antarctica, government is trying to get lithium from WNC, stacks of bodies left at hospitals, and on and on and on. PLEASE help stop this junk. It is just a distraction to people trying to do their job. Folks, this is a catastrophic event of which this country has never known. It is the largest crisis event in the history of N.C. The state is working non-stop. DOT has deployed workers from all over the state. Duke power has 10,000 workers on this. FEMA is here. The National Guard is here in large numbers. My Senate district is 8 counties and it takes 3 hours to drive across it in good weather…. And this disaster is 25 counties in N.C. This is going to take MONTHS if not years to overcome. Government will play a role in this cleanup. We are going to make sure the state chips in some massive money. But Government is not the total solution. YES, there are a lot of neighbors helping neighbors and that’s good and the way it should be. Please don’t let these crazy stories consume you or have you continually contact your elected officials to see if they are true. I just talked to one Senator that has had 15 calls TODAY about why we don’t stop …….. “fill in the blank.” 98% chance it’s not true and if it is a problem, somebody is aware and on it and not waiting for a post to go thru 10,000 people to be addressed. Thanks for listening but I’ve been working on this 12 hours a day since it started and I’m growing a bit weary of intentional distractions from the main job …. which is to help our citizens in need.
 
National media barely gave adequate coverage and appears to have moved on in my opinion. I check both the NY Post and Jeff Bezo's WAPO everyday. It is just what I do. You have to know where to look to find any new stories on their pages. As many of you have said the people there are on their own supported by other people. I guess WNC is not as sexy as New Orleans to the MSM.
Mea Culpa. A story just popped up on one in the last hour about inside a helicopter relief rides. I will just see myself out.
 
Mea Culpa. A story just popped up on one in the last hour about inside a helicopter relief rides. I will just see myself out.
Man you are good we are all good here . Lots of emotions behind this even more if you live there are from there or have loved ones there so its all good LHSfaninVA
 
This is copied and pasted from the Facebook link.

From Kevin Corbin NC Senator:

Friends can I ask a small favor? Will you all help STOP this conspiracy theory junk that is floating all over Facebook and the internet about the floods in WNC. Example: FEMA is stealing money from donations, body bags ordered but government has denied, bodies not being buried, government is controlling the weather from Antarctica, government is trying to get lithium from WNC, stacks of bodies left at hospitals, and on and on and on. PLEASE help stop this junk. It is just a distraction to people trying to do their job. Folks, this is a catastrophic event of which this country has never known. It is the largest crisis event in the history of N.C. The state is working non-stop. DOT has deployed workers from all over the state. Duke power has 10,000 workers on this. FEMA is here. The National Guard is here in large numbers. My Senate district is 8 counties and it takes 3 hours to drive across it in good weather…. And this disaster is 25 counties in N.C. This is going to take MONTHS if not years to overcome. Government will play a role in this cleanup. We are going to make sure the state chips in some massive money. But Government is not the total solution. YES, there are a lot of neighbors helping neighbors and that’s good and the way it should be. Please don’t let these crazy stories consume you or have you continually contact your elected officials to see if they are true. I just talked to one Senator that has had 15 calls TODAY about why we don’t stop …….. “fill in the blank.” 98% chance it’s not true and if it is a problem, somebody is aware and on it and not waiting for a post to go thru 10,000 people to be addressed. Thanks for listening but I’ve been working on this 12 hours a day since it started and I’m growing a bit weary of intentional distractions from the main job …. which is to help our citizens in need.
 
My wife was telling me last night, and bear with me...us husband's only half listen...that some girl she knows personally posted on social media that her husband and his buddies were turned away by FEMA when they showed up to some town near Asheville with a truckload of fuel, chainsaws, shovels, and water. He works for or owns a tree cutting business and they were going to donate their time/materials to unblock roads and driveways.

I'm skeptical by nature but something in me last night believed the story. So this helps confirm as well.

It's crazy.
 
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My wife was telling me last night, and bear with me...us husband's only half listen...that some girl she knows personally posted on social media that her husband and his buddies were turned away by FEMA when they showed up to some town near Asheville with a truckload of fuel, chainsaws, shovels, and water. He works for or owns a tree cutting business and they were going to donate their time/materials to unblock roads and driveways.

I'm skeptical by nature but something in me last night believed the story. So this helps confirm as well.

It's crazy.
I just don't see how it is hit or miss on these types of reported(alleged) situations. I know people currently volunteering now and a group of us also going to join them. How is it that some are helping freely and others are surprisingly turned away or goods seized? Not saying it hasn't happened but I just don't see it and definitely haven't heard it from people I know doing it now. If I experience it myself, I'll be sure to respond back.
 
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Why? Some people have connections and are AUTHORIZED to be there...
ppl. just showing up willy-nilly will be turned away.
Y'all REALLY need to learn to ask questions about things instead of jumping to conclusions.
Part of me wants to say 'I hope YOU never have to go thru this, like I have', while another part of me wishes the opposite.
 
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Elon's guy said "We are blocked now on the shipments of new starlinks coming in until we get an escort from the fire dept"????
So????
Sheesh!
And if FEMA was grabbing the stuff... where's the pics? You'd think an engineer would have a smartphone.
 
I’m just speculating but are some of the areas where people are being turned around/refused entry areas where active people/ cadaver searches are going on. When there were missing people in the 2021 flood in Cruso/ Canton it was much tighter restrictions until the bodies were recovered. Once that situation changed, it flipped into a completely different type of operation and more people were granted entry. Just a thought based on my previous experiences in these situations.
 
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