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Weathers Creek High

Vik-Val 86

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What has been taking a long time to build now they are getting closer with coming up with a tight budget of $130 million. The athletic fields are not included. It was around $190 million with athletic fields. It was mentioned that will try and work on something so they can have athletic fields included. It could take up to 30 months starting on it. Or possibly sooner
 
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My concern, will it be too small. With only a 1600 student capacity will that be big enough or are they not expecting much growth in that area.
 
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57 or 58 yeas ago, Iredell County had the following high schools:
Cool Springs, Harmony, Union Grove, Central, Scotts, Celeste Hinkle, Statesville, Troutman, Mooresville, Unity and Morningside. I believe that is 11.
Today counting Weathers Creek (of course not built yet) you have:
North Iredell, West Iredell, South Iredell, Statesville, Mooresville and Lake Norman plus Weathers Creek. I believe that is 7.

I just wonder what would have been the financial plus and/or minus if the powers that be at that time had just added on to the schools they had at that time, not bused kids like myself 20 plus miles to North Iredell (from Cool Springs), a school in the middle of absolutely nowhere, not have had had to buy all those new sites, etc.
I do not have the answer but it sure would be an interesting study and look back. But I remember one of the big reasons given was heating cost. It did not take but one year for that argument to be shredded.
 
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Also it should be noted that Morningside and Unity were the "Black" high schools. Morningside (the city school) could have easily been merged with Statesville Senior High while the respective county schools could have easily handled their share of students from Unity without overtaxing any school. If there was a "Black" high school in Mooresville I am not aware of it.

Over the years I have moved more and more strongly in favor of 600 to 800/900 population high schools. Of course this is a person opinion but it is where I believe a school reaches the max amount of opportunities for the maximum number of students, be it drama, coral, sports, special classes, etc.
 
Also it should be noted that Morningside and Unity were the "Black" high schools. Morningside (the city school) could have easily been merged with Statesville Senior High while the respective county schools could have easily handled their share of students from Unity without overtaxing any school. If there was a "Black" high school in Mooresville I am not aware of it.

Over the years I have moved more and more strongly in favor of 600 to 800/900 population high schools. Of course this is a person opinion but it is where I believe a school reaches the max amount of opportunities for the maximum number of students, be it drama, coral, sports, special classes, etc.
I like your idea of 600 to 800/900 students at a high school and keeping things more intimate between the staff and students and where more attention can be provided. The only problem with that is it seems like there would dozens and dozens of high schools in high population areas like Mecklenburg, Wake and Guilford Counties. It is probably more cost effective to have one huge high school with 2700 students rather than three high schools with 900 students each.
 
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57 or 58 yeas ago, Iredell County had the following high schools:
Cool Springs, Harmony, Union Grove, Central, Scotts, Celeste Hinkle, Statesville, Troutman, Mooresville, Unity and Morningside. I believe that is 11.
Today counting Weathers Creek (of course not built yet) you have:
North Iredell, West Iredell, South Iredell, Statesville, Mooresville and Lake Norman plus Weathers Creek. I believe that is 7.

I just wonder what would have been the financial plus and/or minus if the powers that be at that time had just added on to the schools they had at that time, not bused kids like myself 20 plus miles to North Iredell (from Cool Springs), a school in the middle of absolutely nowhere, not have had had to buy all those new sites, etc.
I do not have the answer but it sure would be an interesting study and look back. But I remember one of the big reasons given was heating cost. It did not take but one year for that argument to be shredded.
I wonder why there isn’t an East Iredell HS give east side of Statesville and such their own.
 
I like your idea of 600 to 800/900 students at a high school and keeping things more intimate between the staff and students and where more attention can be provided. The only problem with that is it seems like there would dozens and dozens of high schools in high population areas like Mecklenburg, Wake and Guilford Counties. It is probably more cost effective to have one huge high school with 2700 students rather than three high schools with 900 students each.
I would much rather school systems build 4-story versions of Jack Britt High in Fayetteville (capacity 5,000 plus or minus) and let them start out as empty husks that can grow with their communities
 
I read where several possible mascots listed for this school. Dragonflies, falcons, Wolverines. I thought Crawdads would be Interesting mascot. Anyone else have a good mascot name for this school.
 
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I think with the color scheme- Dragonfly make the most sense and it’s different and unique

Colors are Teal-Purple n I would assume black
 
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Maybe they'll pick something relevant to the area and not generic like they did with the others. I hate generic mascot names. Be unique. Channel the history of the area and land.

Could do something related to weather also.
 
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Hellbenders
Santercats(old legend around the statesville area)
Purple Lightening or Storm
Thunder or Thunderbolts
Mustangs, Thunderbirds, Chargers, Hornets, Road Runners(odes to motorsports history)
 
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So it will be ‘27/‘28 season when it opens. I take they will be in with South Iredell, Mooresville.. conference
I’m curious if that would drop SI to 6A and Weathers creek to be 6A bc then it only be LN n Mooresville in 7A part of it with Davie
 
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Over the years I have moved more and more strongly in favor of 600 to 800/900 population high schools. Of course this is a person opinion but it is where I believe a school reaches the max amount of opportunities for the maximum number of students, be it drama, coral, sports, special classes, etc.
There are positives but a school with an enrollment of 800ish and below very often struggles with limited course offerings if the school has much diversity in the educational levels. I think the giant schools see a lot of students "get lost."
 
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Santercats(old legend around the statesville area)
Purple Lightening or Storm
Thunder or Thunderbolts
Mustangs, Thunderbirds, Chargers, Hornets, Road Runners(odes to motorsports history)
I like the school not being a directional name!!!

Having a unique nickname/mascot that has a special connection to the area is a great for branding. Not sure why the people coming up with the name do not understand this. As anothr wrote: Falcons is West Rowan (!!) which is only about 15 miles down the road.

I like Thunderbolts! That is a great one. Thunder, Thunderbirds, Racers. Dragon Flys is a unique one.

Still waiting for a school to really step outside the box, Weathers Creek Critters!
 
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There are positives but a school with an enrollment of 800ish and below very often struggles with limited course offerings if the school has much diversity in the educational levels. I think the giant schools see a lot of students "get lost."
Having worked in education now for almost 16 years and having taught at schools with student populations near 2000, all the way down to 400, I would say there is definitely a sweet spot as far student numbers go. Each type of school presents unique challenges. Someone on here said something about students getting "lost" in a giant school. From personal experience students can get lost in a small school if they don't interact with anyone around them. Sure it is easier for kids who are more socially awkward to get "lost in the shuffle" in big schools, but most kids find their way with a peer group. Schools around 1200-1400 kids are about perfect, you get enough athletes around to field fairly consistent and competitive teams and it forces you to hire enough teachers that you can offer some non-traditional classes that students enjoy taking. When you get down in small schools that are under 500 most counties under staff those schools. I know that sounds crazy but they often get overlooked. Smaller schools also don't have the teachers to be able to offer anything other than your core and CTE classes because the staffs allotment set by the county won't allow for it. Very big schools often have discipline issues just based on the sheer number of students. If you follow the 80-20 where most students fall in the 80% and are fine that is great. However if you get a school that has 3000 kids that 20% is gonna end up being 600 kids who have consistent discipline problems. Even if you break it down to 80-15-5 where 80% of the students are fine, 15% you have to stay on and monitor them and they don't get in major trouble but they are still disruptive that is still 450 kids at school with 3000 and 150 major discipline issues in the 5%, which can be a daunting task for any administrative team.
 
Having worked in education now for almost 16 years and having taught at schools with student populations near 2000, all the way down to 400, I would say there is definitely a sweet spot as far student numbers go. Each type of school presents unique challenges. Someone on here said something about students getting "lost" in a giant school. From personal experience students can get lost in a small school if they don't interact with anyone around them. Sure it is easier for kids who are more socially awkward to get "lost in the shuffle" in big schools, but most kids find their way with a peer group. Schools around 1200-1400 kids are about perfect, you get enough athletes around to field fairly consistent and competitive teams and it forces you to hire enough teachers that you can offer some non-traditional classes that students enjoy taking. When you get down in small schools that are under 500 most counties under staff those schools. I know that sounds crazy but they often get overlooked. Smaller schools also don't have the teachers to be able to offer anything other than your core and CTE classes because the staffs allotment set by the county won't allow for it. Very big schools often have discipline issues just based on the sheer number of students. If you follow the 80-20 where most students fall in the 80% and are fine that is great. However if you get a school that has 3000 kids that 20% is gonna end up being 600 kids who have consistent discipline problems. Even if you break it down to 80-15-5 where 80% of the students are fine, 15% you have to stay on and monitor them and they don't get in major trouble but they are still disruptive that is still 450 kids at school with 3000 and 150 major discipline issues in the 5%, which can be a daunting task for any administrative team.
I am sure with the small rural schools (student populations of 500 and less), the counties also don't have the money to hire teachers that can instruct non-traditional subjects. I don't know the official breakdown of teacher salaries - if 100% is paid by the state or the county of the school picks up part of that? If the county picks up some of that, I assume many of the most rural NC counties (Hyde, Gates, Halifax, Tyrrell, for example) don't have the funds to attract teachers that can instruct in non-traditional type subjects. Plus, just the options one has for your lifestyle are going to be much more diverse in a metro area. If a teacher of Chinese language has an option to live in Swan Quarter, NC and teach at Mattamuskeet HS or live in Charlotte and teach with all that area has to offer, chances are they choose Charlotte. But your point about 1200-1400 students at a high school being the sweet spot is well taken. As you said, even if 15% of the students at a 2500-3000 student high school are a discipline problem, that is a lot of kids creating trouble.
 
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