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Is this their coaches last year? This coach brown is nothing like his bro up at Grimsley….crazy to me how asheboro can lose to southwest randolph. Idk what southwest has this year but can’t imagine it’s to much!!
 
Really someone give me a good answer, other than the recruiting pipeline that runs east in the county, what is the issue at asheboro? It seems to be a school that should be much better than it has historically been.
 
Really someone give me a good answer, other than the recruiting pipeline that runs east in the county, what is the issue at asheboro? It seems to be a school that should be much better than it has historically been.
Always loved Easterns tradition and respect their tradition? Have yal gotten help from the pipeline this year?
 
Asheboro had Benji Brown and were average. They had Gillespie and were awful. Aboro is not a coaching problem from what I can see but like Lexington an administrative and city problem. They don't get support and coaches need support no matter how good a coach they are. Lee J Stone rolling in his grave...

I still say Aboro is much improved and the offense backs that up. Defense not so much...
 
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BTW Aboro is 55 percent Hispanic, 25 percent white and 15 percent African American. Take from that what you will...
 
BTW Aboro is 55 percent Hispanic, 25 percent white and 15 percent African American. Take from that what you will...
Eastern randolph has similar number and has successful teams every year…..I understand 3a ball is different but not losing to southwest randolph different
 
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Eastern also has strong history and tradition. Asheboro was a state power in the 50s and 60s under Lee J Stone, and right after he retired they went downhill fast and with few exceptions have been average to terrible for 50 plus years. Culture matters. It's the same reason South Davidson is usually awful even when they play similar size schools and why Lexington has been awful despite playing 2A ball as a 3A school for years. It don't change just like that. Aboro is similar in that they have 1300 kids and are arguably large 3A slash small 4A size. Numbers only matter as much as the want to is there. Charlotte Garinger says hello too in that regard.

Eastern is 50 percent White, 30 percent Hispanic and 10 percent AA fwiw

And Calvin Brown did wonders to elevate the football program at Providence Grove. He is by far their most successful coach so far. He is in a bad situation and fighting an uphill mountain at Aboro...
 
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Eastern also has strong history and tradition. Asheboro was a state power in the 50s and 60s under Lee J Stone, and right after he retired they went downhill fast and with few exceptions have been average to terrible for 50 plus years. Culture matters. It's the same reason South Davidson is usually awful even when they play similar size schools and why Lexington has been awful despite playing 2A ball as a 3A school for years. It don't change just like that. Aboro is similar in that they have 1300 kids and are arguably large 3A slash small 4A size. Numbers only matter as much as the want to is there. Charlotte Garinger says hello too in that regard.

Eastern is 50 percent White, 30 percent Hispanic and 10 percent AA fwiw

And Calvin Brown did wonders to elevate the football program at Providence Grove. He is by far their most successful coach so far. He is in a bad situation and fighting an uphill mountain at Aboro...
Didn't Lexington win 2-3 state titles back in the 1980s under Gary Whitman? So there is obviously some history there. Not like they have been a losing program forever. But I can't remember in recent times when the Jackets were good. Doesn't make sense. Sure seems like they would have the athletes in the student body to field competitive teams.
 
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Didn't Lexington win 2-3 state titles back in the 1980s under Gary Whitman? So there is obviously some history there. Not like they have been a losing program forever. But I can't remember in recent times when the Jackets were good. Doesn't make sense. Sure seems like they would have the athletes in the student body to field competitive teams.
Revolving door of coaches hasn’t helped.
 
Didn't Lexington win 2-3 state titles back in the 1980s under Gary Whitman? So there is obviously some history there. Not like they have been a losing program forever. But I can't remember in recent times when the Jackets were good. Doesn't make sense. Sure seems like they would have the athletes in the student body to field competitive teams.
Lexington Senior WNCHSAA titles: 1933 34 38 39 40 54 56 67

Dunbar NCHSAC titles: 56 58 59 63

Lexington NCHSAA titles: 85 86

Lexington was the original Davidson County powerhouse. The white and black schools both won tons. In 1967 Lexington had a Remember the Titans season except Charlie England became assistant coach and defensive backs/passing game coach for legendary coach Press Mull. England won titles at Lexington Dunbar whilst Mull won at Lexington Senior. They only lost to Kannapolis Brown 14-9 and beat everyone else like a drum by a 31-5 average. Best team in Lexington history. They beat defending 2A champion North Davidson (moved to 3A in 67) 34-0 and 41-7 in the Piedmont Title playoff before wrecking Lincolnton 33-12 in the WNCHSAA Championship game.

Thomasville won the WNCHSAA title in 64 (only loss to Aboro who won in 58 63 and 65 and who had Tvilles number in the day)

North won 2A in 66 and WNCHSAA tie with Shelby in 75. Shelby beat Lexington 25-0 in 76 after Lexington had won 9 games by shutout. Then the WNCHSAA closed and Lexington won in 85 and 86 before Tville pulled through in 88 and followed with 91 95 04 05 06 08.

I wish Davidson County football would step it back up to what we used to be... maybe someday...
 
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Lexington Senior WNCHSAA titles: 1933 34 38 39 40 54 56 67

Dunbar NCHSAC titles: 56 58 59 63

Lexington NCHSAA titles: 85 86

Lexington was the original Davidson County powerhouse. The white and black schools both won tons. In 1967 Lexington had a Remember the Titans season except Charlie England became assistant coach and defensive backs/passing game coach for legendary coach Press Mull. England won titles at Lexington Dunbar whilst Mull won at Lexington Senior. They only lost to Kannapolis Brown 14-9 and beat everyone else like a drum by a 31-5 average. Best team in Lexington history. They beat defending 2A champion North Davidson (moved to 3A in 67) 34-0 and 41-7 in the Piedmont Title playoff before wrecking Lincolnton 33-12 in the WNCHSAA Championship game.

Thomasville won the WNCHSAA title in 64 (only loss to Aboro who won in 58 63 and 65 and who had Tvilles number in the day)

North won 2A in 66 and WNCHSAA tie with Shelby in 75. Shelby beat Lexington 25-0 in 76 after Lexington had won 9 games by shutout. Then the WNCHSAA closed and Lexington won in 85 and 86 before Tville pulled through in 88 and followed with 91 95 04 05 06 08.

I wish Davidson County football would step it back up to what we used to be... maybe someday...
Thanks for all the details and info. The main issue seems to be what happened at these schools to make them fall off so much? Sure, I realize that Lexington's success was some years ago but clearly there is tradition there. Thomasville also seems to have fallen off some after both Allen and Benjie Brown left the coaching ranks. So the question at Thomasville would seem was their success 100% due coaching? Or is there something else going on there? North Davidson seems to have been hurt by the opening of Oak Grove. I remember North consistently being in the 4A playoffs and winning 8-9+ games every season but not winning any state titles. Still, they had a consistent and winning program under Marc Holcombe. I wouldn't say they have fallen off a cliff after the opening of OG. But it appears they are not enjoying the same number of wins ever since they dropped down in classification. As for East, West, South and Central, I never recall any of them even being consistently good. Ledford looks like they have become a consistent winner but I don't recall them ever making deep playoff runs. They don't seem to have the talent to make it past the second round or so of the state playoffs.
 
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East, Central and West were good in the 60s and 70s. They fell off. Ledford has had moments including third and fourth round playoff appearances recently in the last decade. North lost Midway and Ledford lost Walburg. Ledford has only 800 students now and getting smaller. Hasty and Pilot are small communities. South has always been awful but for 2-5 years in their history.

North lost their identity when they stopped playing defense the last three years. That was always a cornerstone of the team for decades. The recruiting fiasco did not help. Nor did other things... but hopefully that's been remedied...

Lexington and Thomasville are sleeping giants. They have talent but not numbers participating. If the student body gets active they are dangerous and i mean that in a good way. Dudley is what they used to be lol.
 
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Furniture industry and booster clubs. Lexington and Thomasville were old money then those jobs disappeared. That's the short version of a long answer
Certainly a lot of truth to that. To expand on it, people have moved out of the school district. Even if they stay in Thomasville, they have bought houses outside the district. Not a lot of new houses being built in the district, but plenty in the city limits. Over 700 new units scheduled to be built in the next two years. Almost all are in the county district part of Thomasville. They will overcrowd Pilot and Fair Grove elementary schools.
With the same district lines, the enrollment has dropped from 1,000 at the high school to not much over 500.
Thomasville and Lexington both have dysfunctional school boards. Doesn’t breed a lot of confidence for young parents.
 
East, Central and West were good in the 60s and 70s. They fell off. Ledford has had moments including third and fourth round playoff appearances recently in the last decade. North lost Midway and Ledford lost Walburg. Ledford has only 800 students now and getting smaller. Hasty and Pilot are small communities. South has always been awful but for 2-5 years in their history.

North lost their identity when they stopped playing defense the last three years. That was always a cornerstone of the team for decades. The recruiting fiasco did not help. Nor did other things... but hopefully that's been remedied...

Lexington and Thomasville are sleeping giants. They have talent but not numbers participating. If the student body gets active they are dangerous and i mean that in a good way. Dudley is what they used to be lol.
Yes, I know South has always struggled mightily in football. Is that the smallest HS in Davidson Co? I recall that their biggest issue
has always been numbers and getting enough kids out to play football. Didn't they have a coach not too long ago that had them trending up? He is probably gone now. Not easy to hang on to a head coach like that at a school like SD.
 
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I still think Coach Brown has them heading in the right direction. They're a little bigger, stronger, and more tenacious than they were last year. Asheboro had ER on the ropes early on.

I have no words as to what happened last Friday night. I thought Asheboro would beat SWR by at least a couple of TD's. Never a good look when the Cougars drop 49 on you.

As far as conference, I think they can give anyone not named Oak Grove a good game.
 
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I don't usually delight in other teams being weak. I would like a stronger conference. The MPC really didn't get a single bit stronger for this 4 year cycle. In fact, it's easy to argue that it got markedly less competitive.
I'm curious (but admittedly wary) about what the new realignment will bring these teams.

That being said, the biggest disappointment has been with Montgomery Central. I remember the year leading up to their entry into varsity football. The MoCo locals who were claiming that big money and combined athletes were going to lead to a soon-to-be juggernaut.
Whatever the opposite of juggernaut is... that's what happened.
 
It will be interesting to see the next realignment. Hard to guess what will happen with 8 classes but I could see North, OG, Central and maybe Lexington in the same conference. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Ledford, East and West grouped together.
 
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North and Ledford both got weaker whilst OG has grown stronger. Athletes that went to all three now transfer to OG if they can,so says the grapevine so take from that what you will...

MC is the exact opposite of Trinity. They took one crap 3A football program and split it into two, hoping that 1A and 2A ball would fix things. They got two crap programs.

West Montgomery was good to great and East was average but good sometimes and had athletes for a 1A school. 3A has not been kind to the new school and the growing pains have been frustrating to Mo Co. Especially West who was second or third best in 1A a few times.

Central has athletes but except for second place on JV has no success to show for it. Time may yet change things but the biggest help will be not playing DC teams anymore. Say what you will about how good DC is but they are light-years ahead of Montgomery...
 
Certainly a lot of truth to that. To expand on it, people have moved out of the school district. Even if they stay in Thomasville, they have bought houses outside the district. Not a lot of new houses being built in the district, but plenty in the city limits. Over 700 new units scheduled to be built in the next two years. Almost all are in the county district part of Thomasville. They will overcrowd Pilot and Fair Grove elementary schools.
With the same district lines, the enrollment has dropped from 1,000 at the high school to not much over 500.
Thomasville and Lexington both have dysfunctional school boards. Doesn’t breed a lot of confidence for young parents.
Replace dysfunctional with delusional and we're getting somewhere haha
 
Are those words mutually exclusive?
Is there a reason why there is just not a Davidson Co. school board for all involved? Why are there still a T-ville City and Lexington City school boards? I am in Forsyth Co. and we don't have a Winston-Salem City board and a Clemmons board, etc. Just seems much easier to roll this all into one.
 
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Is there a reason why there is just not a Davidson Co. school board for all involved? Why are there still a T-ville City and Lexington City school boards? I am in Forsyth Co. and we don't have a Winston-Salem City board and a Clemmons board, etc. Just seems much easier to roll this all into one.
Sadly, I think it’s obvious for those from the area without having to verbalize it.
 
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Sadly, I think it’s obvious for those from the area without having to verbalize it.
No problem. Not trying to stir anything up. I am just not aware of the facts and details. And yes, other counties have similar set ups so this is not unique to Davidson Co. I think in Surry Co, for example, there are the Surry Co, Mount Airy City and Elkin City boards.
 
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No worries! My assessment having grown up in Davidson Co, but no longer living there is….TV and Lex are higher minority, lower income and typically score lower on EOG testing.
That being said, I probably wouldn’t allow my children to attend a DCS because I’m not sure they’re much better for other reasons. Too many “good ole’ boy politics.” Just my personal opinion.
However, I still like to keep up with the area athletics.
 
No problem. Not trying to stir anything up. I am just not aware of the facts and details. And yes, other counties have similar set ups so this is not unique to Davidson Co. I think in Surry Co, for example, there are the Surry Co, Mount Airy City and Elkin City boards.
There are 15 city school systems in North Carolina, resulting in 115 systems statewide (100 counties and 15 city systems). There have been legislative discussions over the years to mandate only 100 systems but never came to fruition. If there is ever a merger in Davidson County without a fair redistricting, it will destroy the current Lexington and Thomasville schools. Probably even more for Thomasville than Lexington given the way the lines are currently drawn.
I’ve mentioned it before, but Thomasville’s district lines were frozen in 1983 by a legislative local bill. That resulted in today’s situation where less than half the kids in the Thomasville city limits are in the Thomasville LEA. Lexington, on the other hand encompasses all of their city limits and a little more that would normally be in the county.
 
Yes, I know South has always struggled mightily in football. Is that the smallest HS in Davidson Co? I recall that their biggest issue
has always been numbers and getting enough kids out to play football. Didn't they have a coach not too long ago that had them trending up? He is probably gone now. Not easy to hang on to a head coach like that at a school like SD.
That is Honeycutt who now has Walkertown trending up.
 
What happens at the asheboro youth game Saturday…..heard swat team was called….this is via a 3rd party so hoping someone will fill
Me in….
 
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