my thought was left off previously. This draft is so bad, perhaps more people will consider playing reidsville.
Proposed conferences
- Thread starter Deana_King
- Start date
my thought was left off previously. This draft is so bad, perhaps more people will consider playing reidsville.
I was hoping the East Gaston and Huss would go in conference with Lincoln County Schools, but that didn't happen. NCHSAA has created on of the most lopsided football conferences in in the state. I don't get why they did the split conference thing.
But yet, 1A schools seem to return your AD’s calls.🙄 Your gate alone would attract quality opponents. Annoys the heck out of me whenever someone says. “Nobody will play us”, even Shelby fans.
Last edited:
It would help if the AD would call Guilford County schools for games and not just job oppurtunities.
Dudley said they were interested. If he can’t get in touch with them he can drive right down the road and see if he can set up meetings
I hate this proposal. West Craven will be in a weak conf against schools that don't even have a damn JV program for our jv's to play. I'd love to meet some of these goons making these decisions and just knock their heads together to make sure they are awake.
Still could happen, it’s just a first draft. I would love to see Burns, Shelby, East Gaston, Huss, Lincolnton, and West Lincoln and maybe Lincoln Charter. But I’m not getting my hopes up.
Ha you aren't lying brother. SWO would have finished 3rd at best last few seasons in that conference. Come playoffs SWO would have been wornnnnnnnn down and exited early. When SWO was so good, they had 3 or 4 backs rotating in and out, always fresh. Swo of late, one back and huggggggge dropoff when he left the field. Not the same amount of athletes to compete in that conference week in and week out.
My take on some of these eastern conferences only from a football perspective.
Conference 16 is similar to the 2a/1a split league SWO just came out of. Weak as can be football wise.
Conference 3 is almost as bad. If I am West Craven, I am loving only having Kinston as any real challenge. Bigger question might be whether Jones and Lejeune even field a team. I could even see South Lenoir having a .500 season
Conference 5 is South Columbus and Whiteville....thats it
Conference 8 isnt very good either. I am guessing Spring Creek will decide to play football in this one.
Conference 7 is without a doubt the toughest with the same culprits, WRH, ED, JK, Clinton and improving Midway. Biggest question here is North Duplin and Hobbton. I can see both being competitive with Midway but no way they will be able to compete with the others. As I said in earlier post, both are probably going to appeal.
I am interested to see what the association does in regards to playoffs. I see pre-determined brackets coming back as another way to cut down on travel in the early rounds. If that happens, some of these conference champs from these weak or two team split leagues are going to be matched up with a 2nd or 3rd place finisher from another league and be considered the underdog.
Conference 16 is similar to the 2a/1a split league SWO just came out of. Weak as can be football wise.
Conference 3 is almost as bad. If I am West Craven, I am loving only having Kinston as any real challenge. Bigger question might be whether Jones and Lejeune even field a team. I could even see South Lenoir having a .500 season
Conference 5 is South Columbus and Whiteville....thats it
Conference 8 isnt very good either. I am guessing Spring Creek will decide to play football in this one.
Conference 7 is without a doubt the toughest with the same culprits, WRH, ED, JK, Clinton and improving Midway. Biggest question here is North Duplin and Hobbton. I can see both being competitive with Midway but no way they will be able to compete with the others. As I said in earlier post, both are probably going to appeal.
I am interested to see what the association does in regards to playoffs. I see pre-determined brackets coming back as another way to cut down on travel in the early rounds. If that happens, some of these conference champs from these weak or two team split leagues are going to be matched up with a 2nd or 3rd place finisher from another league and be considered the underdog.
I'm from West Craven and I want to be in a conference that helps get us ready for the playoffs. I don't care for an easy path to the playoffs. Your JV team is a feeder program for the varsity much like little league is a feeder program. We will have 4 members with no JV team to play. I'd much rather have a conference with Kinston, Washington, Farmville, Ayden-Grifton that can cause us to have to play to win. All this alignment will do is hurt West Craven sports. What type of gate will you get from schools that don't even field a jv team? No I don't like this at all.
I understand completely. It will be very difficult in football to develop what is needed in a conference with that many teams with no JV program. Plus, as I said who knows if Jones and Lejeune will even field a team.
I guess thats why they call it an initial draft. Lots could change.
I guess thats why they call it an initial draft. Lots could change.
Whether or not a school fields a JV team or even a varsity team has little to do with overall realignment. We are quick to forget.....its an overall athletic realignment for all sports.
I would add that I am not against one alignment for football, and another for other sports.......
I would add that I am not against one alignment for football, and another for other sports.......
Here’s my redo for 1A and 2A...I discovered after using Google Maps that you can easily move Christ the King and Langtree into Conference 38 to make room for Cherryville, Bessemer City and Highland Tech in Conference 39. I left the Rutherford County/Henderson County/Polk/Transylvania County conference intact. Draughn is closer to Cherryville, Bessemer City and Highland Tech but they want to go to the mountains plus I needed to keep them there to make this redo work.
Burns
Shelby
Lincolnton
West Lincoln
Hunter Huss
East Gaston
Lincoln Charter
East Burke
Patton
Newton-Conover
Bandys
Bunker Hill
Maiden
West Caldwell
Madison
Owen
Avery (1A)
Draughn (1A)
Mitchell (1A)
Mountain Heritage (1A)
Cherryville (1A)
Highland Tech (1A)
Bessemer City (1A)
Mountain Island Charter (1A)
Piedmont Community Charter (1A)
Community School of Davidson (2A)
Pine Lake Prep (2A)
Christ the King
Langtree Charter
Bradford Prep
Cabarrus Academy
Carolina International
Coravian Community
Queens Grant
Sugar Creek
You could put Lincoln Charter in with Cherryville, Bessemer City and Highland Tech if you’d like. Since they don’t play football I wouldn’t mind being in a conference with them.
Burns
Shelby
Lincolnton
West Lincoln
Hunter Huss
East Gaston
Lincoln Charter
East Burke
Patton
Newton-Conover
Bandys
Bunker Hill
Maiden
West Caldwell
Madison
Owen
Avery (1A)
Draughn (1A)
Mitchell (1A)
Mountain Heritage (1A)
Cherryville (1A)
Highland Tech (1A)
Bessemer City (1A)
Mountain Island Charter (1A)
Piedmont Community Charter (1A)
Community School of Davidson (2A)
Pine Lake Prep (2A)
Christ the King
Langtree Charter
Bradford Prep
Cabarrus Academy
Carolina International
Coravian Community
Queens Grant
Sugar Creek
You could put Lincoln Charter in with Cherryville, Bessemer City and Highland Tech if you’d like. Since they don’t play football I wouldn’t mind being in a conference with them.
Notice in my post above I stated that my comments were based on football perspective. This is a football board so majority of postings are probably football slanted
Hobbton and North duplin will almost certainly go independent if they are forced into that league. My guess is we will see some changes.
I would say that this next draft is where you are most likely to see changes, tho. After that will be far less of a chance.
If you move one or 2 schools, it can completely change the entire east.
Im pretty sure Wallace, ED, etc are not thirllled about getting hobbton and ND either.
I would say that this next draft is where you are most likely to see changes, tho. After that will be far less of a chance.
If you move one or 2 schools, it can completely change the entire east.
Im pretty sure Wallace, ED, etc are not thirllled about getting hobbton and ND either.
I'm not so sure they would go independent. The winner of their game each year would get an automatic spot and home game in the 1A playoffs.
Also unless I am mistaken, Hobbton already plays Midway and has for years and if I remember correctly Hobbton, Midway, WRH, and JK were all in the same conference a couple of cycles back. No idea when they might have played Clinton or ED.
North Duplin was in a conference with JK not long ago and might even have had a few non conference games with them and might have played Midway recently. I remember the Dogs playing them in a playoff game a few years ago first round. If they played Clinton or ED, I am guessing it was many years ago.
I think their baseball, softball, and basketball teams compete in county tournaments each year so I guess their main objection would be football related.
Also unless I am mistaken, Hobbton already plays Midway and has for years and if I remember correctly Hobbton, Midway, WRH, and JK were all in the same conference a couple of cycles back. No idea when they might have played Clinton or ED.
North Duplin was in a conference with JK not long ago and might even have had a few non conference games with them and might have played Midway recently. I remember the Dogs playing them in a playoff game a few years ago first round. If they played Clinton or ED, I am guessing it was many years ago.
I think their baseball, softball, and basketball teams compete in county tournaments each year so I guess their main objection would be football related.
I guarantee you that UNLESS their county would not allow them to, North Duplin will NOT play football in that league. Hobbton will consider it also. Already being discussed.
But its gonna change. The NCHSAA doesnt want to deal with that and neither do the other schools.
But its gonna change. The NCHSAA doesnt want to deal with that and neither do the other schools.
I will take your word for it as you are probably closer than I am to those schools and their situation.
Seems the NCHSAA wanted to keep distance at a minimum so not sure how they will appease either and then what will they do with the 2A schools that coukd see their travel increase? I guess they could do a split 1a-2a league with Princeton, Rosewood, Spring Creek, North Duplin, Hobbton and someone else to satisfy competitive balance from a football perspective.
Seems the NCHSAA wanted to keep distance at a minimum so not sure how they will appease either and then what will they do with the 2A schools that coukd see their travel increase? I guess they could do a split 1a-2a league with Princeton, Rosewood, Spring Creek, North Duplin, Hobbton and someone else to satisfy competitive balance from a football perspective.
So am I understanding that both don't mind being in a split league as long as WRH, Clinton, JK and ED aren't in it?
Princeton and Spring Creek are both 2A.
Princeton and Spring Creek are both 2A.
January 8.
Appeals reviewed on January 13. Second draft released on January 14.
Hobbton wont have a issue with it. They played Wallace,and JK in that ole Super Six conference for years. And games with Clinton could potentially bring in some good gates ole Sampson County rivalry Hobbton is actually the last County team to beat Clinton in a regular season game 1999 or 2000 i believe it was cant remember exactly.
I'm just curious what the appeal will be? ND already plays WRH, Jk and ED in other sports. So, the argument seems to be only from a football perspective? Would Hobbton be the same?
Spring Creek appealed last realignment and that was denied. I guess the difference is SC was a 2A school whereas Hobbton and ND are still 1A.
Spring Creek appealed last realignment and that was denied. I guess the difference is SC was a 2A school whereas Hobbton and ND are still 1A.
And to be clear, I dont care if they play in this proposed league or the SEC East. I am just curious on the arguments in the appeal and how it will effect WRH.
Went to the North Duplin Football Twitter page and its easy to see what their argument will be. Going to be interesting.
Went to the North Duplin Football Twitter page and its easy to see what their argument will be. Going to be interesting.
Last day for appeals: January 8.
Appeals will be reviews on January 13. Second draft of conferences released on January 14.
Hobbton is not as vehement as North Duplin, and as I said, what their counties allow them to do may affect them going independent in football, but those 2 are most definitely very very very against this draft. North Duplin will fight tooth and nail.
Yes, I think the conference it is makes the difference. Both im sure would rather be in an all 1A league, and there are quite a few proposals being made to that effect, but the league with Spring Creek, North johnston, Goldsboro, princeton, Eastern Wayne, Rosewood and Neuse Charter (No FB) is not CLOSE to as powerful in football as the Wallace/JK league. They would protest that too, but why would any 1A school who is small WANT to be in a split league? Travl is not an issue for them as there are a bunch of schools from each class in the area. Really no need for a split here, which is why I think ultimately they will get a 1A only league back.
Plus, Wallace and them have already dealt with the independent thing the past four years and want no part of it, which is another reason i think this one won't stand.
The problem is, if you move one or two schools, it could reconfigure the entire east,
Gonna be interesting. but while what i think is correct for all is one thing, individual schools have to look after themselves. You have to work with people, yes, but in a situation like this, these schools believe they are fighting for the life of their programs.
Yes, I think the conference it is makes the difference. Both im sure would rather be in an all 1A league, and there are quite a few proposals being made to that effect, but the league with Spring Creek, North johnston, Goldsboro, princeton, Eastern Wayne, Rosewood and Neuse Charter (No FB) is not CLOSE to as powerful in football as the Wallace/JK league. They would protest that too, but why would any 1A school who is small WANT to be in a split league? Travl is not an issue for them as there are a bunch of schools from each class in the area. Really no need for a split here, which is why I think ultimately they will get a 1A only league back.
Plus, Wallace and them have already dealt with the independent thing the past four years and want no part of it, which is another reason i think this one won't stand.
The problem is, if you move one or two schools, it could reconfigure the entire east,
Gonna be interesting. but while what i think is correct for all is one thing, individual schools have to look after themselves. You have to work with people, yes, but in a situation like this, these schools believe they are fighting for the life of their programs.
It should prove to be interesting whatever the committee comes up with because they will obviously have to do something very different. In some ways i see why ND would have heartburn with this conference affiliation but i always like to look at the positives that could come from it. The gates for football would double for them without a doubt and four years of that would make a huge difference in the sustainability of the program going forward. They are almost automatically a playoff team every year as there are only two 1A schools in the conference and with the schedule in the regular season there is no way you won't be better come playoff time. And eventually you are going to beat one of the big boys and what does that do for your program as well. You get better playing bigger, better teams and there is no argument for that. In the end, as is usual, ND will get what they want, they always do and life goes on. I'm just ready to see some friday night lights again.
I think Spring Creek might argue with you as far as playing bigger, better teams.
Saw in local paper this week that as expected ND says they will appeal. I have also seen posts on Twitter that some small schools might even break away from the NCHSAA and go independent route if their appeals are denied.
Maybe the county should follow the lead of other counties in the area and possibly redistrict? ED has over 900 students and ND 300 ? Maybe only 2 or 3 high schools might be better and even everything out?
Saw in local paper this week that as expected ND says they will appeal. I have also seen posts on Twitter that some small schools might even break away from the NCHSAA and go independent route if their appeals are denied.
Maybe the county should follow the lead of other counties in the area and possibly redistrict? ED has over 900 students and ND 300 ? Maybe only 2 or 3 high schools might be better and even everything out?
Well Lion, it may be annoying, but it true. One of the main reasons is schools in nearby counties (Alamance, Guilford) are required to play other schools in their own county and don't have openings to play teams like Reidsville. And, of course, there is only one team in Caswell County, BY.
Reidsville is appealing the latest conference proposal as it would require Reidsville to find 6 or 7 out of conference games, which will be almost impossible, particularly considering concerns other have noted on this thread.
Best outcome for Reidsville would be a split 2A/3A conference with Rockingham and Forsyth schools but whether that is even remotely possible remains to be seen.
Don't know why anyone is getting excited about football...most people will not be seeing in person games for the next couple of years (my prediction)....by that time most schools will fold their athletic programs for lack of finances.................panic porn has succeeded in changing America....high school sports is just ONE way...................................
I’d rather take my chances of finding non conference games than playing conference teams we will beat by a lot. Unless we got in that split conference with 3a but I find that unlikely
This is all political and control and all the idiots around us are falling in line. Don’t get me wrong, the virus is real but it’s human made and being used as a way of controlling us
