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More Issues With Charters

Everyone was crying about parochials and ignored charters @btango called this 10 years ago.
But it’s about choice.::
I’m giving my child a better education…
Most charters don’t do that…
That’s because you’re a liberal (this one is very ironic to me 🤷‍♂️)…
The lottery!!!

Cliff notes for some of the responses that are coming very soon…
 
So, in case no one read the article, I'm going to include one quote. "Academically, Gray’s high school students are in class four hours a day, sometimes in a morning or afternoon block. The rest of the day can include free time, sports practices or other extra-curricular activities."

That, just in itself, would be enough for me to choose to send my kid there. The only reason we go to school for such long hours (unlike how students throughout most of Europe go for 5-6 hours and are released by 2) is because Saint John Dewey and his acolytes came up with a system way back during the first world war and we can't possibly change a system that's been in place for over a century.

I mean, we absolutely have to maintain a system that mirrors the industrial workplace even though only about 20% of our population now works in a factory-because reasons.

The AD in that piece is upset that his school can't be as flexible as the charter. The thing is that I want schools to have greater flexibility. But only schools that operate outside the traditional education bureaucracy seem to manage that and I'd just as soon let at least some students escape that system than trap everyone in it "because we've always done it this way".
 
So, in case no one read the article, I'm going to include one quote. "Academically, Gray’s high school students are in class four hours a day, sometimes in a morning or afternoon block. The rest of the day can include free time, sports practices or other extra-curricular activities."

That, just in itself, would be enough for me to choose to send my kid there. The only reason we go to school for such long hours (unlike how students throughout most of Europe go for 5-6 hours and are released by 2) is because Saint John Dewey and his acolytes came up with a system way back during the first world war and we can't possibly change a system that's been in place for over a century.

I mean, we absolutely have to maintain a system that mirrors the industrial workplace even though only about 20% of our population now works in a factory-because reasons.

The AD in that piece is upset that his school can't be as flexible as the charter. The thing is that I want schools to have greater flexibility. But only schools that operate outside the traditional education bureaucracy seem to manage that and I'd just as soon let at least some students escape that system than trap everyone in it "because we've always done it this way".
Ok, as usual, I do have a question…
Where did you get the “only 20% of the population” thing? Industries around these parts work 8 hour shifts, some with even three different work sessions, meaning 24 hours worth. Even white collar workers are back to 8 hour shifts for the most part, after the whole Covid remote has faded. Who would pick all these children up at school after the school day? Or meet the buses at 12pm? Or be there at 9am when bus comes by for that 4 hour school day? Unless you’re self employed, which I have a lot of experience in, or independently wealthy, then I don’t know how the logistics would work in that scenario.
Wow that’s a lot for just a question ain’t it?
 
Ok, as usual, I do have a question…
Where did you get the “only 20% of the population” thing? Industries around these parts work 8 hour shifts, some with even three different work sessions, meaning 24 hours worth. Even white collar workers are back to 8 hour shifts for the most part, after the whole Covid remote has faded. Who would pick all these children up at school after the school day? Or meet the buses at 12pm? Or be there at 9am when bus comes by for that 4 hour school day? Unless you’re self employed, which I have a lot of experience in, or independently wealthy, then I don’t know how the logistics would work in that scenario.
Wow that’s a lot for just a question ain’t it?

It's actually 19.28% who work in industry, but close enough.
And I don't think you have to be independently wealthy, what you have to do is figure out what's important to you and how to make it work. So, maybe mom and dad work different shifts or maybe one parent works the gig economy, and they make sacrifices because that's what's important to them. Or maybe they get grandma to go get the kid or maybe they work out carpools with other parents. Lots of people make this work one way or another-flexibility is key, remember.
And there are still plenty of people who work from home even after Covid, but maybe you look for a job like that and make arrangements with your boss, because maybe they have kids as well and aren't tyrants.
Or is school just a babysitter where parents drop the kids off to make it easier to go to work? There are plenty of parents who seem to look at it that way, but I don't think most parents do.
That doesn't even come close to exhausting the potential answers for how to make this work, but ask away-maybe we can figure this out. I think it's best to offer parents who will try to make it work the opportunity and not make it harder for them because others seemingly can't.
 

It's actually 19.28% who work in industry, but close enough.
And I don't think you have to be independently wealthy, what you have to do is figure out what's important to you and how to make it work. So, maybe mom and dad work different shifts or maybe one parent works the gig economy, and they make sacrifices because that's what's important to them. Or maybe they get grandma to go get the kid or maybe they work out carpools with other parents. Lots of people make this work one way or another-flexibility is key, remember.
And there are still plenty of people who work from home even after Covid, but maybe you look for a job like that and make arrangements with your boss, because maybe they have kids as well and aren't tyrants.
Or is school just a babysitter where parents drop the kids off to make it easier to go to work? There are plenty of parents who seem to look at it that way, but I don't think most parents do.
That doesn't even come close to exhausting the potential answers for how to make this work, but ask away-maybe we can figure this out. I think it's best to offer parents who will try to make it work the opportunity and not make it harder for them because others seemingly can't.
1st..all charters are not the same. Tried getting my kid into Thomas Jefferson(40+min drive) when it was the #3 school in the state but it was over 300 kids for her grade(rising 7th) alone at the time. Settled for the one in Shelby, Pinnacle, for a couple years and couldn't get out of there fast enough. Moved to get my kid into the new sports charter school in Rock Hill (1st year open) and was the best decision for us. They do get to practice year round and they have shorter classes and many of their classes are college credit classes. Almost everyone their had plans to go onto college and with the classes offered, everyone went into college at least a sophomore but many junior's with associate degrees before they even had their high school diploma(1 athlete earned 3 associate degrees before she graduated high school). Several of their teams had top 10 GPAs in the nation for their sport with the softball team having the 2nd highest GPA in the country with an average of GPA of 4.4. As you said, some parents make a sacrifice and I for one did and made the moves necessary to get in a better situation.
 
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