Hypothetical Realignment Proposal Part 1

[GrizzlyDevil]

I was bored so here we go...this is going to be a long one.

1.Listed all schools within the NCHSAA in order of ADM highest to lowest (418 schools). Then removed non football schools. This proposal only applies to schools with football (42 removed) (376 remaining). Sorted into 6 classifications as even as possible

6A = 1750 on up (62 teams) - Myers Park 3688 to RJ Reynolds 1754 (1934 Diff)
5A = 1300 to 1749 (63 teams) - Hickory Ridge 1740 to Western Harnett/Orange 1306 (434 Diff)
4A = 1000 to 1299 (66 teams) - South Johnston 1285 to Currituck County 1000 (285 Diff)
3A = 800 to 999 (64 teams) - South Point 998 to Fairmont 800 (198 Diff)
2A = 560 to 799 (60 teams) - Brevard 791 to Louisburg 561 (230 Diff)
1A = lowest to 559 (61 teams) - South Stanly 556 to W-Salem Prep 152 (404 Diff)

2. Breakdown each classification into "Geographical Conferences" by County proximity. Some general rules:
-no split conferences.
-no school will have to drive more than 2 hours within their own conference
3. Minimum of 5 teams and a max of 8 teams in a conference when possible
-3 to 4 team conferences = 1 auto qualifier
-5 to 8 team conferences = 2 auto qualifiers
-9 or more team conferences = 3 auto qualifiers
-schools that don't fit into a conf. due to travel time and bc of no split conferences rule will be "independent". These schools will rely on adjusted rankings to make the playoffs. Sucks I know but if I adhere to my rules then this is the outcome.

**Only 32 teams from each class qualify for playoffs. 224 teams currently make the playoffs (8 brackets), this proposal drops that to 192 (6 brackets).

Looking at county maps and distances between schools and by my own rules - this is the outcome:

Format = School - ADM - Class - County

6A
West 1
Hough 2570 6A Mecklenburg
Mallard Creek 2564 6A Mecklenburg
North Mecklenburg 2280 6A Mecklenburg
Hopewell 1966 6A Mecklenburg
Cox Mill 1924 6A Cabarrus
Lake Norman 1890 6A Iredell
Mooresville 1861 6A Iredell

West 2
Myers Park 3688 6A Mecklenburg
Independence 2345 6A Mecklenburg
Vance 2312 6A Mecklenburg
Garinger 2245 6A Mecklenburg
East Mecklenburg 2111 6A Mecklenburg
PO Berry Academy 1816 6A Mecklenburg

West 3
Ardrey Kell 3447 6A Mecklenburg
South Mecklenburg 3376 6A Mecklenburg
Olympic 2725 6A Mecklenburg
Providence 2123 6A Mecklenburg
Butler 2084 6A Mecklenburg
Cuthbertson 1908 6A Union
Marvin Ridge 1835 6A Union

West 4
West Forsyth 2361 6A Forsyth
Northwest Guilford 2273 6A Guilford
Reagan 2179 6A Forsyth
Page 1949 6A Guilford
Grimsley 1879 6A Guilford
Southwest Guilford 1774 6A Guilford
RJ Reynolds 1754 6A Forsyth

Central 1
Apex Friendship 2631 6A Wake
Panther Creek 2543 6A Wake
Green Hope 2500 6A Wake
Apex 2181 6A Wake
CE Jordan 2045 6A Durham
Hillside 1948 6A Durham
Riverside Durham 1852 6A Durham

Central 2
Leesville Road 2625 6A Wake
Millbrook 2397 6A Wake
Wake Forest 2290 6A Wake
Rolesville 2272 6A Wake
Wakefield 2214 6A Wake
Heritage 1910 6A Wake
Sanderson 1801 6A Wake

Central 3
Enloe 2752 6A Wake
Broughton 2335 6A Wake
Athens Drive 2322 6A Wake
Cary 2171 6A Wake
Garner 2100 6A Wake
Southeast Raleigh 1852 6A Wake

Central 4
Fuquay-Varina 2381 6A Wake
Holly Springs 2197 6A Wake
Corinth Holders 2040 6A Wake
Middle Creek 1998 6A Wake
Clayton 1951 6A Johnston
Cleveland 1790 6A Johnston

Central 5
Hoke County 2312 6A Hoke
Pinecrest 2125 6A Moore
Richmond Senior 2109 6A Richmond
Jack Britt 1956 6A Cumberland
Lumberton Senior 1940 6A Robeson
Overhills 1788 6A Cumberland

East 1
Laney 2301 6A New Hanover
Hoggard 2260 6A New Hanover
Ashley 1982 6A New Hanover
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5A
West 1
McDowell 1639 5A McDowell
TC Roberson 1542 5A Buncombe
Asheville 1376 5A Buncombe
Erwin 1355 5A Buncombe
AC Reynolds 1344 5A Buncombe

West 2
South Iredell 1637 5A Iredell
South Caldwell 1630 5A Caldwell
Watauga 1462 5A Watauga
Alexander Central 1432 5A Alexander

West 3
Hickory Ridge 1740 5A Cabarrus
Harding University 1666 5A Mecklenburg
Central Cabarrus 1643 5A Cabarrus
AL Brown 1620 5A Cabarrus
West Charlotte 1577 5A Mecklenburg
Northwest Cabarrus 1364 5A Cabarrus

West 4
Porter Ridge 1699 5A Union
Rocky River 1673 5A Mecklenburg
Weddington 1621 5A Union
Sun Valley 1460 5A Union
Piedmont 1319 5A Union

West 5
East Forsyth 1725 5A Forsyth
Davie County 1717 5A Davie
Parkland 1568 5A Forsyth
Mount Tabor 1528 5A Forsyth
Glenn 1517 5A Forsyth

Central 1
Ragsdale 1550 5A Guilford
BL Smith 1530 5A Guilford
Dudley 1503 5A Guilford
High Point Central 1473 5A Guilford
Southeast Guilford 1427 5A Guilford
Northern Guilford 1424 5A Guilford
Western Guilford 1381 5A Guilford
Eastern Guilford 1370 5A Guilford
Asheboro 1316 5A Randolph

Central 2
Northern Durham 1707 5A Durham
Southern Durham 1575 5A Durham
Chapel Hill 1536 5A Orange
East Chapel Hill 1528 5A Orange
Southern Alamance 1461 5A Alamance
Northwood 1433 5A Chatham
Orange 1306 5A Orange

Central 3
Knightdale 1586 5A Wake
Cardinal Gibbons 1546 5A Wake
East Wake 1385 5A Wake
West Johnston 1331 5A Johnston

Central 4
Harnett Central 1512 5A Harnett
Lee County 1482 5A Lee
Union Pines 1367 5A Moore
Western Harnett 1306 5A Harnett

Central 5
Pine Forest 1705 5A Cumberland
Purnell Swett 1646 5A Scotland
South View 1642 5A Cumberland
Seventy First 1563 5A Cumberland
Gray's Creek 1510 5A Cumberland
Scotland 1509 5A Scotland
Cape Fear 1503 5A Cumberland

East 1
DH Conley 1625 5A Pitt
New Bern 1615 5A Craven
South Central 1567 5A Pitt
JH Rose 1435 5A Pitt

East 2
New Hanover 1684 5A New Hanover
Topsail 1489 5A Pender
West Brunswick 1475 5A Brunswick
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[btango]

Problem is there will only be four classifications.

 

[burnsbulldogtweeter]

Problem is there will only be four classifications.

That’s why he says it’s hypothetical. They could call the highest classifications 4AA and 4A and the lowest 1AA and 1A like in Nick Stevens’ proposal.

 

[btango]

That’s why he says it’s hypothetical. They could call the highest classifications 4AA and 4A and the lowest 1AA and 1A like in Nick Stevens’ proposal.

Very hypothetical when a team from far west of Asheville is in an eastern conference.

 

[btango]

That’s why he says it’s hypothetical. They could call the highest classifications 4AA and 4A and the lowest 1AA and 1A like in Nick Stevens’ proposal.

That is my hope but do a 30/20/20/30 and subdivide 1A and 4A for team playoffs. 2A and 3A would have more teams per championship but the ADM differential would be close enough that they would not need to subdivide...any sport including football.

Subdividing was due to the the size of the smaller schools and the larger schools in a classification. With little difference it is not needed.

 

[burnsbulldogtweeter]

That is my hope but do a 30/20/20/30 and subdivide 1A and 4A for team playoffs. 2A and 3A would have more teams per championship but the ADM differential would be close enough that they would not need to subdivide...any sport including football.

Subdividing was due to the the size of the smaller schools and the larger schools in a classification. With little difference it is not needed.

That might be a better proposal than Nick Stevens’, but I do like his multiplier proposal. Combine your 30-20-20-30 with his multiplier proposal and it could be perfect.

 

[burnsbulldogtweeter]

As I said in the Part 2 thread those 3 and 4 team conferences just will not fly.

 

[btango]

That might be a better proposal than Nick Stevens’, but I do like his multiplier proposal. Combine your 30-20-20-30 with his multiplier proposal and it could be perfect.

I like the multiplier but it needs to be used fir all schools that allow athletes from outside their geographical district, with a few exceptions, to play sports.

 

[RD28327]

Here's the 30/20/20/30 presented as 15/15/20/20/15/15 ... Combine those '15s' and there you have it ...

https://www.highschoolot.com/content/document/19016200/

 

[marinersgold]

That might be a better proposal than Nick Stevens’, but I do like his multiplier proposal. Combine your 30-20-20-30 with his multiplier proposal and it could be perfect.

I like that better than the 12.5-12.5-25-25-12.5-12.5

 

[btango]

I like that better than the 12.5-12.5-25-25-12.5-12.5

I agree. I think 30/20/20/30 could bring us to six champions in all sports with only 1A and 4A brung subdivided. Hate more champions but really want fewer in football.

I think five would about perfect With some emphasis on 1A with traditional and non traditional.

 

[do_you_tell]

I think Nick Stevens’s plan is the best one I have seen.

 

[SimmonsRatings]

btango,
What schools in addition to perochial and charter schools would you like to see the multiplier applied to? What are some that allow kids from outside their own districts to attend?

I am definitely in favor of some sort of multiplier for those schools.

 

[PrepFanNC]

Three schools in Davidson County always seem to teeter in-between being the largest in one classification and the smallest in the other. ND, Ledford, sometimes Central Davidson... but now Oak Grove is in the mix too. Should be interesting.

So I haven’t seen number for West Cabarrus (starting next year), nor have I seen the numbers for Seaforth High School (new Chatham County School starting in 2021-22). I don’t think Seaforth will be anywhere near 1000 kids starting off. Does anyone know where West Cabarrus will start?

Also, there is a new school opening in Wake County too that I’m certain will be way larger. Green Level, I think?

 

[btango]

btango,
What schools in addition to perochial and charter schools would you like to see the multiplier applied to? What are some that allow kids from outside their own districts to attend?

I am definitely in favor of some sort of multiplier for those schools.

I think almost all of them allow it. Stanly County is now open enrollment but fir several years they let students leave Albemarle and go to any of the other three and they were eligible day one. Note North Stanly volleyball forfeits. Albemarle district, attended Gray Stone, then went to North. Legal. North did not complete proper documentation so they forfeited several games.