Central Carolina 2A Non-Conference

[PrepFanNC]

North and Ledford have lots to replace for sure but I still see them as the favorites. Not as dominant this time round, and would not be surprised to see Thomasville, Salisbury or OG win a game against them. Could be a five team race this year, and much closer at the end of the season with teams knocking each other off.

Lexington has the skill players but not the linemen. That takes time to develop and perhaps the new coach can get something going. I still think they finish in the middle this year.

SR, WD, ED and CD play for the last four spots as usual.

I have no idea what SR does.. But I do wonder how much longer West will continue to accept losing. East is very likely to improve if the assistants buy in to Hanner’s plan. Central Davidson has NO excuse for being terrible. They have a pretty darn good group of kids coming up the pipeline in the next few years.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

Hanner is a good coach, it's just that most years East is fighting an uphill battle athletes wise... West, unless things have changed without my knowledge, still has the same AD and therefore will keep going with the buddy system no matter what the product on the field looks like.

 

[Rameses]

I think Salisbury is the darkhorse to win the CCC

They may be, but I believe North Davidson wins the CCC in 2019, with either Thomasville or Oak Grove coming in second place. Just my $0.02.

 

[PrepFanNC]

They may be, but I believe North Davidson wins the CCC in 2019, with either Thomasville or Oak Grove coming in second place. Just my $0.02.

I think North is a good bet. I don’t know much about Ledford’s upcoming season, but I do know that they had a stout JV. Hard hitting kids.

I can’t wait to see how it all plays out. Should be a fun season!

 

[ocdavis31]

They may be, but I believe North Davidson wins the CCC in 2019, with either Thomasville or Oak Grove coming in second place. Just my $0.02.

Numbers will hurt Thomasville unless there is a dramatic increase in kids coming out. That is, of course, unless they choose to forgo a jv team. You simply can’t be successful in 2A ball with low twenties (or less) on each squad.
Coach is working hard at it. Hopefully, the new principal will come to understand the role of athletics in keeping kids in school and maintaining discipline. So far, that’s questionable.

 

[Champ_24]

Question. If I live in Oak Grove district, when my kids eventually get to middle and high school can I transfer them to Thomasville city schools?

 

[ocdavis31]

Question. If I live in Oak Grove district, when my kids eventually get to middle and high school can I transfer them to Thomasville city schools?

As of today, the answer to that question is yes, though it could change. I know that someone posted that it hasn’t been allowed in a decade. I knew that not to be true because both of my kids did it. My wife and I got a release letter from Davidson County for thirteen years (each child) and paid a small tuition fee to Thomasville.
I was in a meeting recently with the superintendents of both systems, as well as the assistant superintendent of TCS. I asked if the practice is still allowed. The answer from all three was yes. Some kids transfer totally. Some take specific courses and are still counted at their home school. Ledford sends several for ROTC, but they are still enrolled at Ledford.
Didn’t ask the current numbers, but five years ago, there were 155 leaving the county schools to enroll at Thomasville. A slightly larger number went the other direction. Probably less now.
None of this is done solely for athletics. But neither system requires a stated reason for the transfer request. Many kids begin school at another system long before sports are a factor, but I’m sure that’s not always true.
Thomasville, especially, has such a weird district that it just makes sense. There are kids whose property touches a city school, and is in the city limits, but are in the county school district. There are some who are 1/4 mile from the city school administration building, who are supposed to attend Ledford, nine miles away.
Makes no sense, but that’s Raleigh for you.
Especially with the advanced manufacturing curriculum at Thomasville, all local kids should have that opportunity. Not everything is about sports.

 

[Champ_24]

We're new to the area and I coach in the youth league here in Davidson county. Seems like alot of things are done backwards here. Elementary schools like Wallburg Ele that is so over crowded, they have trailer units, then literally 1.8 miles down the road you have Friendship Ele. That only have 300 plus students and more than enough space for additional students. Even Hasty Ele has trailers. Common sense says send some of those Wallburg and Hasty Ele students to Friendship.

Just wanna give my kids the best well rounded experience

 

[ocdavis31]

We're new to the area and I coach in the youth league here in Davidson county. Seems like alot of things are done backwards here. Elementary schools like Wallburg Ele that is so over crowded, they have trailer units, then literally 1.8 miles down the road you have Friendship Ele. That only have 300 plus students and more than enough space for additional students. Even Hasty Ele has trailers. Common sense says send some of those Wallburg and Hasty Ele students to Friendship.

Just wanna give my kids the best well rounded experience

Any sort of redistricting is a political hot potato. Elected folks don’t want to touch it, especially after building the two Oak Grove schools.

 

[PrepFanNC]

Any sort of redistricting is a political hot potato. Elected folks don’t want to touch it, especially after building the two Oak Grove schools.

I had heard in recent discussions that the Davidson County board was looking to change the policy, or procedure in which students could opt to leave for other school districts (thus sending the local money along with them)

Lexington and Thomasville “might” allow students to leave their system, but Davidson County isn’t taking them, or anyone else.

Reference Yadkin Valley Regional Career Academy... Thomasville has 2 spots per grade there. Valley would like more from Thomasville, but they won’t allow it. Even though they are considered “guest students”, which means Thomasville gets to keep the test scores.

 

[ocdavis31]

I had heard in recent discussions that the Davidson County board was looking to change the policy, or procedure in which students could opt to leave for other school districts (thus sending the local money along with them)

Lexington and Thomasville “might” allow students to leave their system, but Davidson County isn’t taking them, or anyone else.

Reference Yadkin Valley Regional Career Academy... Thomasville has 2 spots per grade there. Valley would like more from Thomasville, but they won’t allow it. Even though they are considered “guest students”, which means Thomasville gets to keep the test scores.

You're right about Thomasville's lack of participation in Yadkin Valley Academy.

 

[Wow71]

Thomasville needs to drop to 1A. Not enough kids to compete with schools of 800-1000 students consistently on all sports. Football, basketball and wrestling are doing pretty good, but the other sports suffer. Means more travel, but if they were in the YVC Coach Maxwell they would have won 9-10 games last year and the year before.

 

[PrepFanNC]

Thomasville needs to drop to 1A. Not enough kids to compete with schools of 800-1000 students consistently on all sports. Football, basketball and wrestling are doing pretty good, but the other sports suffer. Means more travel, but if they were in the YVC Coach Maxwell they would have won 9-10 games last year and the year before.

I know they’d do better... but the numbers just don’t work. The line has to be drawn somewhere. Perhaps if the NCHSAA goes back to a 25/25/25/25 model, they’ll be able to do that.

If they go with a 1A-5A model though, I’d assume that 2A is where they’d stay. But, that would assuredly leave them out of the conferences with 900-1000 student schools.

 

[Wow71]

Probably going to open the doors with about 640-650 tops this year. Enrollment is declining yearly. Not sure what the cutoff will be but there are a few 1A schools as big or bigger. Only missed the cutoff last time by 2-3 schools.

The larger CCC schools do not want to play Tville, Lex or Salisbury anyways especially in secondary sports. Don’t know where they will go, but chasing bigger gates is not worth the loss of kids and some sports not even ending the season in softball, baseball, volleyball, swimming and tennis due to kids just quitting or not coming back out.

If they stay 2A then football, wrestling, basketball and track will be the sports they compete in with larger schools. However, numbers still come into play and not having depth simply costs them games, matches and meets. If they stay up, I hope they go into a league with schools of somewhat like size.

 

[Rameses]

Any sort of redistricting is a political hot potato. Elected folks don’t want to touch it, especially after building the two Oak Grove schools.

You got that right! The whole Oak Grove thing was political from day one, from everything I ever heard from folks. There is NO WAY in Hades the kids from Friedberg elementary school should be attending Oak Grove. FES is literally the furthest school located in NORTHERN Davidson County. I'm not kidding, if you were standing in the front of FES and stepped across the street you'd be in Forsyth County. I know there were folks who were not happy at all when they were told those kids were going to OG instead of ND. Just my opinion, I think it was an intentional slap in the face to the ND community. Also, I could be wrong here on this, but isn't the cutoff for OG/ND at the Sheetz/Taco Bell? NO WAY should the Oak Grove district come that far up.

 

[Wow71]

Original plan was most of Hasty and midway going to OG. While LHS/ND/OG districts are drawn crazy. Any elected school boras member will most likely not vote to move kids around if they want to stay in office.

 

[PrepFanNC]

Original plan was most of Hasty and midway going to OG. While LHS/ND/OG districts are drawn crazy. Any elected school boras member will most likely not vote to move kids around if they want to stay in office.

You are correct. It really looked like Hasty would be the section of Ledford to attend OG.
The lines that took the Friedberg/ND kids had the west side of Hwy 150 as the line from very early on. It wasn’t ideal to split elementary schools, but it wouldn’t have been enough kids if Friedberg wouldn’t have been included. Why build a new school if you don’t plan to put enough kids in it?

The Wallburg people fussed to stay out of OG, the Hasty people fussed to stay out of OG. You know who didn’t fuss? Friedberg. They were told that they were going to get split and hardly anyone said a word.

I’ve driven from Friedberg areas to OG and likewise from those same areas to ND. We’re talking a couple of miles different. As for me, I’m closer to ND, but am in OG’s district. It’s just how it is.

ND will be fine. OG will be fine. Ledford will be too.

 

[Wow71]

All three schools will continue to have talent, numbers and great community support. I look for all three to be near the top this year and going forward.

 

[PrepFanNC]

I’d favor youth football to get away from the County’s influence as it is.

I like what most of the booster clubs are doing, in competing as if they were all assembled at their high school (Fairgrove, Pilot and Brier Creek Elementaries = East Davidson) (Tyro, Reeds, Churchland = West Davidson) (Arcadia Boosters and Welcome Boosters = North Davidson) and so on...

But when it comes to Wallburg and Midway (which is mostly Oak Grove), they don’t do that... and I think its for a decent reason. To allow more kids the chance to play instead of ride the bench. Larger group of kids to pull from... and who knows who is going to be good or not when they’re 12 years old and younger.

 

[PrepFanNC]

You got that right! The whole Oak Grove thing was political from day one, from everything I ever heard from folks. There is NO WAY in Hades the kids from Friedberg elementary school should be attending Oak Grove. FES is literally the furthest school located in NORTHERN Davidson County. I'm not kidding, if you were standing in the front of FES and stepped across the street you'd be in Forsyth County. I know there were folks who were not happy at all when they were told those kids were going to OG instead of ND. Just my opinion, I think it was an intentional slap in the face to the ND community. Also, I could be wrong here on this, but isn't the cutoff for OG/ND at the Sheetz/Taco Bell? NO WAY should the Oak Grove district come that far up.

The cut off between ND and OG is US Hwy 52. That works for Old 52, Hickory Tree Rd and all points in between. The worst part of that is that in any given year, 2 or 3 Midway kids (Enterprise Rd and Zimmerman Rd) have to go to NDMS without any of their Midway classmates.

 

[Wow71]

They all used to have their own teams and it was a good competitive league. But numbers have went way down and some cannot make a team. I remember when wallburg, midway, reeds, fairgrove and Hasty would have 40-50 kids on the little league team. I think they actually have Thomasville playing with them now because they used to have four teams and are down to one.

 

[M193_55g]

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The Wallburg people fussed to stay out of OG, the Hasty people fussed to stay out of OG. You know who didn’t fuss? Friedberg. They were told that they were going to get split and hardly anyone said a word.......
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My kids were Friedberg kids, and one was already attending NDMS when the lines were being drawn. Early on, there were only three maps displayed at the middle school and none of them included our area, so I quit paying attention. Several months later I read in the Dispatch that Map 5 had been chosen.

Map 5? What the heck is Map 5?

You guessed it. We were in it. So I attended the next meeting and found out it was a done deal by then. I also found out that Hasty and Midway were the two lowest performing elementary schools in the northern part of the county, with the lowest parental participation, and there was no way they were going to combine the two into one middle / high school district. So my kids ended out going to a school farther away for middle school, and then going back to North Davidson for high school. My youngest was in the last class of Seniors that finished at ND while living in the OG district.

 

[PrepFanNC]

My kids were Friedberg kids, and one was already attending NDMS when the lines were being drawn. Early on, there were only three maps displayed at the middle school and none of them included our area, so I quit paying attention. Several months later I read in the Dispatch that Map 5 had been chosen.

Map 5? What the heck is Map 5?

You guessed it. We were in it. So I attended the next meeting and found out it was a done deal by then. I also found out that Hasty and Midway were the two lowest performing elementary schools in the northern part of the county, with the lowest parental participation, and there was no way they were going to combine the two into one middle / high school district. So my kids ended out going to a school farther away for middle school, and then going back to North Davidson for high school. My youngest was in the last class of Seniors that finished at ND while living in the OG district.

Map 5 would have been better advertised had the Friedberg representative actually shown up to the meetings. He lost interest about halfway through the process.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

It's a conspiracy!

 

[PrepFanNC]

Maybe... maybe not. I doubt its a conspiracy though.

I think that each one of the 3 football coaches that it affected (and they are all pretty good at what they do),
Would say something along the line of, “strap it up and play”.

All three schools have around 1000 kids next year, and many of them are hard working, summer time weightroom hitting, athletes.

Excuses are for (insert crappy team, who doesn’t work for it, but still wants a winning season here)

 

[BlackKnightNut]

I was kidding lol

 

[PrepFanNC]

I was kidding lol

You’re pretty sensible from what I can tell on here... I figured that you were kidding. But there are plenty of others in our area that don’t feel that way. Lots of people wearing tin foil hats and coming up with way off base rumors.

 

[BlueStar12]

The cut off between ND and OG is US Hwy 52. That works for Old 52, Hickory Tree Rd and all points in between. The worst part of that is that in any given year, 2 or 3 Midway kids (Enterprise Rd and Zimmerman Rd) have to go to NDMS without any of their Midway classmates.

The cut off goes all the way out to HWY 150

 

[PrepFanNC]

The cut off goes all the way out to HWY 150

You are absolutely correct. Once Midway’s district butts up to Friedberg’s, Miller Creek (to the south) and NC Hwy150 becomes the western border for Oak Grove.
Thank you for clarifying.

 

[Kylar2018]

Davidson county school district lines don't make much sense at all. You have a school like Wallburg with over 800 students with trailers outside and literally 1.6 miles down the road you have Friendship Elementary with alil over 400 students. Why don't the county just adjust the lines and have both schools around 600?

 

[Rameses]

My personal opinion on the Wallburg/Friendship elementary districts being the way they are is because the "Powers that Be" want as many students heading to the shiny new high school as possible.

 

[PrepFanNC]

My personal opinion on the Wallburg/Friendship elementary districts being the way they are is because the "Powers that Be" want as many students heading to the shiny new high school as possible.

The lines between Wallburg and Friendship were drawn before 2009.
The lines for the Oak Grove schools were drawn and approved in the spring of 2012.

I’m not sure why they’d want to fill up the “shiny new school” (like they should have built a shabby one, like a certain bald headed commissioner would have liked to have seen) with kids... The idea was to alleviate Ledford, which was built for 700 kids and had 1300, and North, which was built for about 1100 and was going over 1600 most years...

I know that there will always be people who say we didn’t need the school...

Was there a better site to put the school, maybe?

Was there a better way to draw the lines? Everyone has an opinion... but I bet there would be just as much complaining if it went the other way. I was at the meeting for those lines... Didn’t miss a single meeting.

If Hasty would have gone in... complaining...
If Northwest... complaining
If Welcome... complaining
If all of Friedberg went in... you got it... complaining.

I’ve heard some very dumb rumors in these last 7 years. One was about the behavioral problems that OG would have. Another was about the lines being drawn for an “academic superschool”. Don’t forget the one about the picking and choosing of individual athletic family homes...

As an Oak Grove parent, I sure wouldn’t mind having some of those North Davidson and Ledford athletes (not all, just the excellent ones)... Think we should petition the school board to redraw the lines for that?

 

[Kylar2018]

My honest opinion OG middle and High got it made. If you look at their district lines and where and who they pull from. The location of the school is a problem to me. I've never seen a high school being built less than 5 miles away from not 1 but 2 other high schools. Easiest solution would be build and add on to Ledford and ND, also drawn the lines to where Hasty kids go to Thomasville city schools, most are within Thomasville city limits.

 

[ocdavis31]

My honest opinion OG middle and High got it made. If you look at their district lines and where and who they pull from. The location of the school is a problem to me. I've never seen a high school being built less than 5 miles away from not 1 but 2 other high schools. Easiest solution would be build and add on to Ledford and ND, also drawn the lines to where Hasty kids go to Thomasville city schools, most are within Thomasville city limits.

It would take an act by the state legislature to put more kids into the Thomasville school system. They would have to reverse the 1983 legislation. But I agree with you that all kids in the Thomasville city limits should be in the Thomasville district. That includes Hasty, Pilot and Fairgrove kids who live in the city limits.

Politically and financially, it simply won’t happen.

 

[crazyduke3]

Well concerning football, I’m excited to see what team rises to the top. Good luck to all the kids and have some fun.

 

[PrepFanNC]

My honest opinion OG middle and High got it made. If you look at their district lines and where and who they pull from. The location of the school is a problem to me. I've never seen a high school being built less than 5 miles away from not 1 but 2 other high schools. Easiest solution would be build and add on to Ledford and ND, also drawn the lines to where Hasty kids go to Thomasville city schools, most are within Thomasville city limits.

East Davidson, Pilot Elem. and Brown Middle School are all within the city limits of Thomasville too.

 

[84k]

So, in the “way too large” ten team CCC, you get two non-conference opponents. Not crazy about that, but that’s how it goes.

Here is how next year is looking. I am missing the second opponent for South Rowan. Feel free to chime in and let me know who the second team is for those two schools. I lifted this info from another forum, so please let me know if there are errors.

Central Davidson - Bishop McGuinness and South Davidson

East Davidson - Providence Grove and Wheatmore

Lexington - Walkertown and North Rowan

Ledford - Glenn and Randleman

North Davidson - Parkland and Davie

Oak Grove - Trinity and Jordan Matthews

Salisbury - North Rowan and Carson

South Rowan - Carson and ?

Thomasville - Albemarle and Montgomery Central

West Davidson - Wheatmore and South Davidson

South Rowan picked up East Rowan for the second week game.

 

[Kylar2018]

Hopefully in the next realignment East Davidson and Thomasville get relocated to the Randolph county league with HP Andrews. Or the Rowan county teams join the Rocky River conference. Playing 9 conference games is ridiculous and hurts all teams in the conference

 

[ocdavis31]

Hopefully in the next realignment East Davidson and Thomasville get relocated to the Randolph county league with HP Andrews. Or the Rowan county teams join the Rocky River conference. Playing 9 conference games is ridiculous and hurts all teams in the conference

I’d say it’s more likely that at least a couple of the teams go 1-A or 3-A or both. Won’t be a ten team conference again in all likelihood. But if you want to spell disaster for Thomasville financially, move them into the conference you mention. In addition to some of the other issues.

 

[PrepFanNC]

I agree that there is likely a better place for the Rowan teams. I think it is pretty impossible that the NCHSAA decided to move any 2A that ends in “Davidson” away from each other. They have a hard time screwing something that obvious up.

The Thomasville thing is a little foggier. They would have been in that other conference had it not been for the Davidson County schools supporting their desire to stay in the CCC. I’m sure they’d stand up for that again next go-round.

I agree that we’re likely looking at some departures to 3A and 1A if the association chooses to go with the 25% for each classification. I’d hate that for Thomasville. The YVC isn’t a good match for them at all. For 3A, I would hope that if any had to go, it would be all three of ND, OG and Ledford. I don’t think Central has the numbers at present to go along with them.