Carver HS Fallout

[BlueDevil1996]

All I have to say is WOW! Once a proud program is now the laughing stock in that area n this is WHY the program is the way it is

Yellow Jackets and Griffin part ways (Part 1) - WS Chronicle

Yellow Jackets and Griffin part ways (Part 1)

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[Chute Boxe Hero]

WOW....

 

[BlueDevil1996]

WOW....

I usually wouldn’t post something like this but This is most crazy thing I have ever heard….. Talking about Controlling the narrative in every aspect - I heard some crazy stories before but this one is up there

 

[Chute Boxe Hero]

Athletic principal?? I've never heard of that title. Is that commonplace now?

 

[BlueDevil1996]

Athletic principal?? I've never heard of that title. Is that commonplace now?

I would assume there school assign a principal to overlook Student Athletes only so but idk how common that is but I’m sure all school someone that overlooks to make sure student athletes are staying up on grades and such

 

[Thunder_struck8712]

There are always 2 sides to every story. I don't doubt some of the things he said but I'm sure there is more to it.

If true, politics and nepotism are ruining everything.

 

[buzzcoach]

Coach Griffin is also a college and HS umpire. He is a stand up guy and loves kids. This is sad and a loss to Carver.

 

[Swain97]

Probably other stuff going on, but a text message is hard evidence to prove some shady stuff going on. It's no secret that mommies and daddies are always pushing coaches to play their kid at this level. But for administration to try and force their families into coaching staff is wrong.

 

[BlueDevil1996]

Probably other stuff going on, but a text message is hard evidence to prove some shady stuff going on. It's no secret that mommies and daddies are always pushing coaches to play their kid at this level. But for administration to try and force their families into coaching staff is wrong.

I never heard of a Admin so willingly to push agenda if this was college and a college AD n a President took a bride for a player to play they would be fired or suspended or something like that is crazy to me for a AD/Principal to do at any level. They truly must not care about the kids or athletics they just wanted mommy and daddy ball

 

[Slasher Killer]

I'm at work and I can't fully post my pov on this yet, but this sounds right to what he told us when we played them last spring. The administration wasn't even helping him then and that was with their particpation #'s direly low. I feel so bad for him, he was so legit in his plans and you could tell he wanted so badly to build it back up.

Carver has a mess on their hands now. Whoever gets the job will have to Mad Max it through a nuked land.

 

[loveithere]

Would image this will hurt their quality in their candidate pool.

But this is also the type of admin who probably already has some shady back door agreement with someone to hire them

 

[Swain97]

Wouldn't be surprised if it's a yes man.

 

[BlueDevil1996]

Wouldn't be surprised if it's a yes man.

To me that the only type of person that would go for this Job at this point and it’s only going hurt the program, kids etc

 

[FreedomAlum]

I can remember Freedom playing at Carver in a 4A football playoff game in the early 90s. Now they are 1A, has any other school gone from 4A all the way down to 1A?

 

[BlueDevil1996]

I can remember Freedom playing at Carver in a 4A football playoff game in the early 90s. Now they are 1A, has any other school gone from 4A all the way down to 1A?

Only one that comes mind is 2A East Burke who was 4A but I’m not sure of any others

 

[Thunder_struck8712]

I can remember Freedom playing at Carver in a 4A football playoff game in the early 90s. Now they are 1A, has any other school gone from 4A all the way down to 1A?

That's all WSFCS fault and modern day resegregation with school choice

 

[FreedomAlum]

Only one that comes mind is 2A East Burke who was 4A but I’m not sure of any others

Pisgah was 4A for a while and then went down to 2A (3A now), but I don't know of any others that have gone all the way down to 1A.

 

[BigRedFan27]

South Stokes was 4A back in the day now they are 1A.

 

[Thunder_struck8712]

We also need to remember that schools like Pisgah probably haven't had a crazy drop in enrollment, it's just those areas are no longer the biggest in the state with the growth of Charlotte, Triangle, and Piedmont. If I remember correctly we aren't but 15-20 years from the largest high schools being in the 2000 ADM range. Now we have schools well over 3000, and some of those are newer schools. We also can factor in several school districts in metro areas consolidating. At one point schools like Elkin and Mount Airy where 3A but that's also a time when every town had a school.

As far as Carver goes, they've just downright lost students. WSFCS should have never built Walkertown. They should have put that money into Carver or building a new high school between Carver and Walkertown.

 

[Sportsnut17]

South Stokes was 4A back in the day now they are 1A.

They went down because of West Stokes opening.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

Carver has had to deal with losing kids to Walkertown, WS Prep and Atkins in the immediate area. Not to mention East Forsyth

 

[burnsbulldogtweeter]

I can remember Freedom playing at Carver in a 4A football playoff game in the early 90s. Now they are 1A, has any other school gone from 4A all the way down to 1A?

Only one that comes mind is 2A East Burke who was 4A but I’m not sure of any others

East Burke is probably the only one I can remember that went from 4A directly to 2A (when Draughn opened). Carver was 3A in the early 2000s. We played them in a couple playoff games.

 

[GreyGod623]

West St

South Stokes was 4A back in the day now they are 1A.

West Stokes was built and that peeled off all of the kids from King.

 

[fitguync30]

We also need to remember that schools like Pisgah probably haven't had a crazy drop in enrollment, it's just those areas are no longer the biggest in the state with the growth of Charlotte, Triangle, and Piedmont. If I remember correctly we aren't but 15-20 years from the largest high schools being in the 2000 ADM range. Now we have schools well over 3000, and some of those are newer schools. We also can factor in several school districts in metro areas consolidating. At one point schools like Elkin and Mount Airy where 3A but that's also a time when every town had a school.

As far as Carver goes, they've just downright lost students. WSFCS should have never built Walkertown. They should have put that money into Carver or building a new high school between Carver and Walkertown.

Yes, it is one thing if a rural school loses students as some residents tend to move away in search of better employment opportunities. It is just bizarre for there to be a 1A school in Forsyth Co. Carver going down to 1A has nothing to do with Forsyth Co. losing population. It has all to do with a clueless school board and their idiotic open enrollment policy. They have almost deliberately sabotaged Carver HS.

 

[Doppleganger#]

Anson County was once 4A for years and fallen to small 2A. And only 1 High School in Anson.

 

[Thunder_struck8712]

Yes, it is one thing if a rural school loses students as some residents tend to move away in search of better employment opportunities. It is just bizarre for there to be a 1A school in Forsyth Co. Carver going down to 1A has nothing to do with Forsyth Co. losing population. It has all to do with a clueless school board and their idiotic open enrollment policy. They have almost deliberately sabotaged Carver HS.

I mean that's what I've been saying the whole thread

 

[Thunder_struck8712]

Anson County was once 4A for years and fallen to small 2A. And only 1 High School in Anson.

Anson lost almost 5000 residents from 2010-2020. Not sure why as I don't know much about the area.

 

[sbbbfan]

Yes, it is one thing if a rural school loses students as some residents tend to move away in search of better employment opportunities. It is just bizarre for there to be a 1A school in Forsyth Co. Carver going down to 1A has nothing to do with Forsyth Co. losing population. It has all to do with a clueless school board and their idiotic open enrollment policy. They have almost deliberately sabotaged Carver HS.

At one time you also had Atkins,Walkertown and Prep all in 1A.

 

[DaBluePrint1]

No excuse for Carver not to dominate in 1a with the athletes they have a chance to grab in a city as big as Winston Salem 240,000 plus... that's ridiculous. No matter what the excuses are.

 

[Sportsnut17]

At one time you also had Atkins,Walkertown and Prep all in 1A.

Probably Prep and Carver needs to be combined. There is space available inside Carver. But not going to happen. Atkins was only 1A because they were sharing their building with Lowrance while new school was being built. As soon as they moved out Atkins went to 3A. I do believe they draw no community kids, %100 magnet with a waiting list. Just not many athletes signing up.

 

[DaBluePrint1]

These 1a schools in very rural areas like East Wilkes..Elkin...Starmount getting more athletes than Carver with a populous city of 240,000+ is crazy. Im tryin to make it make sense. I read the story...but WOW! I thought Carver would be a problem when they stepped into 1a..but their literally a door mat. It's crazy. There are coaches/teachers out there that can make it happen...Carver needs to come out of their $$ pockets however they can to make it happen. Not sure how that works but it's a disgrace..the fall from grace..

 

[Wolf4Lyfe]

Sad to see the Carver program fall this far. Does the unthinkable happen? Do they drop football?

 

[GreyGod623]

Anson lost almost 5000 residents from 2010-2020. Not sure why as I don't know much about the area.

It is poor. First Walmart I've ever seen close because it lost money. There was so much theft, manager said that the employees were just carrying it out the back door as quick as it came in. There is literally nothing to make people want to live there other than family. Sad situation because there are many good folks there

 

[Eaglemeister]

This was the Norf Ruin approach in 2011. The were winless in 2008. In 2010 they were co conf champs. The "community" didn't relate to the head guy Flemming and they had a lady assistant principal come in. She assigned assistants to be in charge of the offense and the head coach did special teams and inventory. They went 4-6 and he was gone. From conf champsand coach of the year to not knowing how to use his people. The same lady never came to a game outside of selling tickets.

 

[Thunder_struck8712]

It is poor. First Walmart I've ever seen close because it lost money. There was so much theft, manager said that the employees were just carrying it out the back door as quick as it came in. There is literally nothing to make people want to live there other than family. Sad situation because there are many good folks there

Sadly I figured it was something along those lines. That whole area of the state from Anson east faces similar issues

 

[Thunder_struck8712]

No excuse for Carver not to dominate in 1a with the athletes they have a chance to grab in a city as big as Winston Salem 240,000 plus... that's ridiculous. No matter what the excuses are.

Spend a day in that building and you'll understand why.

Inner city athletes don't always translate to success. Many of those kids are just trying to survive as is the case in several inner city schools. Issues that go ignored from the outside world.

 

[DaBluePrint1]

True...i suppose..Carver community needs to step up....Carver is/was a Historically black school that deserves waaaay better a waay support system and remembrance of what and how good they used to be..It's sad...Just think how wonderful it would be if the administrators and community decided to put Carver back on the map.

 

[BlueDevil1996]

Carver should be similar to North Rowan but NR tradition and history and pride kept NR open n NR still a very solid 1A program so Carver need get back to their roots n culture and pride bc they should be a top 10-15 1A team personally

 

[DaBluePrint1]

Easily!! Should be!!

 

[btango]

True...i suppose..Carver community needs to srep up....Carver is/was a Historically black school that deserves waaaay better a waay support system and remembrance of what and how good they used to be..It's sad...Just think how wonderful it would be if the administrators and community decided to put Carver back on the map.

As long as students can pick and choose where they want to go to school and so many options nearby it will be difficult to build the school back up. Start it up with a strong principal that is about the community and strong sports teams as the starting point.