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well that will add to robbinsville trophy case1a will be 90% charters soon.
They will force murphy and Mitchell up to 1aa permanently.
Don’t see it happening. Most charters will never field a varsity football program (too expensive to start up). In addition, many of the more established charters in the larger metropolitan markets like Charlotte, Raleigh, etc. will be moving up to 2A very soon as they increase enrollment.
Maybe so, but it could effect which teams are in your conference.Don’t see it happening. Most charters will never field a varsity football program (too expensive to start up). In addition, many of the more established charters in the larger metropolitan markets like Charlotte, Raleigh, etc. will be moving up to 2A very soon as they increase enrollment.
Maybe so, but it could effect which teams are in your conference.
Good point...schools like TJ (in a more rural location) could fall back into a 1A/2A conference down the road. Seems like the state is trying to keep as many of the 1A charters in the Charlotte area together in a single conference. May make things easier if they decide to break things out separately some day.
Lincoln Charter will also likely be 2A as well and they don’t even field a football program.Yep MIC will likely be 2A by the 2021 realignment. Less than 100 students from being 2A
I've said for years we need it changed to 6 classifications.Charter schools are a by product of the failures of our educational system, and I won't use the L word. Simple as that. And it's not just white people going, but black, hispanic, asian etc. are shifting to these schools because they are run with more discipline and more of the older standard curriculums. As far as athletics goes, the NCHSAA needs to put them in their own classification. When you can draw from a 50 mile radius especially in areas like Raleigh, Charlotte, Durham etc. how can they really expect true public 1A's to compete in sports and win titles. And that is going to become more and more difficult including in football down the road. The NCHSAA is talking of a 5A, well just go ahead to 6 classifications and put the academies, Charters in a class and be done with it.
The discussion over charter schools vs. traditional schools has often been rehashed, and I'm not talking about in athletics.Charter schools are a by product of the failures of our educational system, and I won't use the L word. Simple as that. And it's not just white people going, but black, hispanic, asian etc. are shifting to these schools because they are run with more discipline and more of the older standard curriculums. As far as athletics goes, the NCHSAA needs to put them in their own classification. When you can draw from a 50 mile radius especially in areas like Raleigh, Charlotte, Durham etc. how can they really expect true public 1A's to compete in sports and win titles. And that is going to become more and more difficult including in football down the road. The NCHSAA is talking of a 5A, well just go ahead to 6 classifications and put the academies, Charters in a class and be done with it.
There shouldn’t be any sub-classes in football. 1a- 6a. True 1a’s along with small charters would make up the 1a division. So on and so on.
What's a small Charter ?
I say put the Charters in 2a and put the smallest 2a schools into 1a?
Good comment.I would love to see our school systems run at the countie level,that way it would let people in all different areas of our state decide what is best taught in our schools,and get the damn unions out of our schools systems.there are places where unions are needed but not in education or government ,all they do is rob the taxpayers and you can't hardly ever get rid of a bad employer.The discussion over charter schools vs. traditional schools has often been rehashed, and I'm not talking about in athletics.
I would just ask this question, especially of our elected officials....If charter schools are so much better, why not allow traditional schools to do everything that charter schools can do? If the education is better in charter schools, remove the restraints from traditional schools that charter schools have been relieved of regarding meals, transportation, teacher qualifications, curriculum, etc.. Let individual school districts make those determinations.
The legislature has the power to do all of the above, if it chooses. But they know the playing field isn't level. It's easier to hamstring traditional schools and turn over everybody else to a company making a buck off of educating students. The folks who can provide their kids meals and transportation may leave. But what often remains is poor kids with little parental support and less than optimal chance of academic success.
I'm all for reestablishing more discipline in our schools. But if you can have discipline in charter schools, you can have it in traditional schools.
When you cut through all the fluff, the legislature simply wants for profit education. I'm a small businessman and certainly believe in making a buck, but taxpayers shouldn't supplement my for profit business.
While were at it get rid of the ncchaa and let something else that has an interest in promoting our student athletes,just look how much highschool football has been hurt by the nchsaa setting on there ass collecting a paycheck and not doing hardly anything to fix the problems that keep adding up ever time and issue comes up and gets debated on these forums I,find out that they are solutions,but there are too many roadblocks to any meaningfull changes, because the people in charge are afraid to fix anything , there not leaders there just paycheck collectors that are good at kicking the can down the road .
My primary point was that we really need to get the legislators out of education. To be honest, I don’t think that all curriculum decisions should be made locally. But the state has given charter schools all sorts of freedom, relieved them of many of the burdens that schools face (transportation, meals, curriculum restraints, teacher certification) and then want to compare results. They conclude from that comparison that charters are better, even though some charters fail miserably academically. That’s like putting two football teams on the field, and one uses a football on offense and the other uses a medicine ball.
Even worse, they seem to favor charter schools that are set up to make money.....subsidized by taxpayers. If they truly want our kids to succeed, let traditional schools have more freedom. If a local school district values art and music, schedule it. If you believe your community needs advanced manufacturing skills, by all means. The one size fits all approach doesn’t necessarily work. Yet, they give charters that freedom. There is a concerted effort to destroy traditional public schools. It’s not educational. It’s political. Every child needs equal access to a quality education, not just those with two parents who can pay for a better one. There is one charter school in my county. It’s twenty-five minutes from me. No transportation provided. I could get my kids there. But most of my fellow citizens can’t. My answer is to make sure that the vast majority of the students in my two high school city can get just as good an education as the few who go to private or charter schools. That means getting ALL politics out of education.....conservative or liberal. Just do the right thing. It’s really not that hard.
Couldn’t get on the ballot. I’m registered “unaffiliated”. And I live in a one party county where the only qualification to get elected is to see how far right you can be. I actually think there are some good folks on both sides of the aisle. That’s blasphemy in today’s political environment.Man you are onto something. We need people like you in Raleigh for educations sake.
Couldn’t get on the ballot. I’m registered “unaffiliated”. And I live in a one party county where the only qualification to get elected is to see how far right you can be. I actually think there are some good folks on both sides of the aisle. That’s blasphemy in today’s political environment.
But thanks for the compliment (I think).
Spent the first half of my life in a county where you had to be a Democrat for your mama to let you out of the house. Then somebody flipped a switch and it’s just the opposite. What I discovered along the way is that neither side wanted you to think. Just repeat the party line and refuse to listen to anybody who doesn’t. They must be a Fascist or a Socialist (pick your dirty name) if they don’t agree with everything you are told to believe.
Education is about learning to think for yourself. That’s scary to a lot of people. Especially those in Raleigh.
From Thomasville, parts of Davidson, Rowan, Davie, Forsyth, Guilford, and Randolph.if there was a charter school where I live, a 25 mile radius would include Yadkin (my home), Surry, Wilkes, Iredell, Davie, and Forsyth counties.
This is true. Shelby is close. But how many people on here honestly believe that kids would leave Shelby high school to come play football at TJ? I can think of just about 0 that would do thatTJCA for example can pull from a 25 mile radius. That's not a big radius most think, but Shelby is 16 miles away.
Okay well take this into consideration. Tim Ruff played at crest. He used to attend Shelby, but whenever Isiah Bess transfered in from Burns, Tim realized he wouldn’t be able to start at Shelby anymore. So he transfered to crest. So it is not only charters who get players from other schools. I’m not arguing whether or not there is an advantage. I am just simply proving that charters are not the only schools who receives transfersKids who don't start and their parents think they're good enough to or 2nd string players for instance. It's not like Shelby is struggling for talent. Would you rather be a 2nd string QB/WR/RB when you can be a "D1 talent" at TJ playing in 1A?
25 miles is a big area! From the high school at Robbinsville....Swain, Murphy, Andrews, Hayesville, and Nantahala high schools are all within a 25 miles as the crow flies