Reidsville in trouble??
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Been watching 1A and 2A football a long time. Reidsville dominance comes with a raised eyebrow. It is hard to have that many great athletes on one team at the 2A level. Sounds like rival schools messing with them to be honest
Had a chance to meet the basketball team during John Wall classic. Don't know about medical records or anything like that, but I can say there program is well looked after by caring people.
Would not let them live down Southwest Onslow beat them for a state crown, but was impressed by there care givers and team.
Had a chance to meet the basketball team during John Wall classic. Don't know about medical records or anything like that, but I can say there program is well looked after by caring people.
Would not let them live down Southwest Onslow beat them for a state crown, but was impressed by there care givers and team.
SW Onlsow never beat us for championship. May be thinking of East Duplin.
As an outsider not knowing the ins and outs. Didn't fully understand the reasoning of the article. Yeah they broke some rules of paperwork and being high school kids I guess medical is important. But didn't see like a smoking gun in the article. Unless they are trying to make the argument of "lack of oversight of the athletic programs"
If they are missing eligibility paperwork such as the Gfeller-Waller Concussion Packet, the NCHSAA medical history form, and a physical, it absolutely can be a smoking gun. That's a major risk and liability on the school.
I could see it being the butch Davis call. Where they say it's a "lack of institutional control". But when I say smoking gun I guess I mean more along the lines of finding players who are playing there illegally but not because of paperwork
From what I heard, it sounds like the AD was possibly unorganized. Where it sounds like they have the informaiton needed. But that's just something I heard.
It's nothing like the Butch Davis call and this isn't the NCAA.
If players were indeed missing paperwork, Reidsville is going to forfeit games. Missing that paperwork makes them ineligible just like a player that doesn't follow residency rules.
Lol yes, not sure what he is talking about. We beat Shelbyville and Cummings to win back to back titles. Led by the great kendric burney
Get off your high horse liberal. Reidsville kids did nothing wrong. Mistake by an adult, should not lead to games forfeited
Football101de should have taken Football102. Forfeits and fines will come if what many suspect has happened is true. To some it won’t seem fair and it won’t negate what was accomplished between the lines but rules and penalties for these types of things have been in place for decades.
Tell me you don't know how the rules work without telling me you don't know how the rules work. You can call me a "liberal" all you want but at least I'm not misinformed like you obviously are.
Things I have heard the last few days are not great. Bad paperwork.
Guess we will see. I heard a little different than you
If paperwork was not done correctly the player is ineligible!
Came from a reliable source. Doesnt mean it's true, but I believe there are definitely paperwork issues to some degree.
Worst case scenario they have to vacate a championship and in the end nobody else gets it from my understanding. So everyone will kinda remember them winning it.
Didn't say things were 100% clean. But don't think its doom and gloom, yet.
Agreed but it should lead to him being fired
I know the rules, liberal lol. Im just saying the adult should be punished not the kids. No shit there has to be physicals and concussion paperwork. Just saying if you agree with taking away the kids hard work, you're telling me how you live your life, without telling me. You must never lined up and bleed and sweat with your teammates in the 100 degree summer.
It doesn't matter if I agree or not, the rules are the rules. If there wasn't some level accountability to the team and school then it would be the wild west with eligibility. So by your logic a coach can throw a couple 20 year olds on the field and win a state title but once it's discovered the wins shouldn't be terminated because it's not fair to the rest of the team. It sucks but it's just how it is and the adults have to live with the fact they let the kids down.
Sadly that guilt doesn't hang around long as folks that make these mistakes seem to land on their feet for some reason.
Sadly that guilt doesn't hang around long as folks that make these mistakes seem to land on their feet for some reason.
Coaches and Administrators are part of the team and hate it for the players. Reidsville is mediocre in every sport but football and basketball including the women. Need to definitely have your ducks in row for those two sports
I am going to simplfy this and say nothing happens to Reidsville!!
The only thing that could happen really is forfeiture of games that involved ineligible players. Well, that, and people could lose jobs.
I agree, however I do not see it coming to that.
Not got a dog in this fight, but many schools have had to forfeit games due to snafus such as this. If the state maintains the standards they have set, then it should include forfeits.
Someone found something or none of this would be going on Im afraid.
My question is who found it to begin with?
I have no knowledge of the situation, but I do know my former school use to have occasional audits dealing with our athletic programs and other extra curricular programs. In addition to checking receipts, purchase orders etc. they would do spot checks of required paperwork such as physicals, concussion forms and permission to participate. Sometimes when an athlete enters a new sport his/her physical will be pulled to make sure it is current throughout the new season.
If it has something with physicals I don’t see how you can make them forfeit games…..now if it’s grades or attendance that’s a different story
Players are legally required to have a physical signed by a doctor stating they are medically eligible to participate, medically eligible to participate with restrictions, or not medically eligible to participate. If they don't have that, they are point blank ineligible and as I've said that is a huge liability on a school. Especially if a kid has a medical issue and doesn't have the approved medical eligibility paperwork.
I know the rule but that is a f up on administration not the kid so I don’t think they should have to forfeit. A fine or someone lose a job sure I agree with that!!
Grades and attendance are in control of the kid and let’s be honest it ain’t that hard to make descent grades in high school. You can literally make all d and 1 f lol
idk, I’m not going into that much detail on here. Let’s just see how it plays out
There may be some gray area in all this and we don't know details yet, but we're talking about 14-18 year old's on average. They know they need a physical every year to play. They also need to be held accountable at some point. Sucks for everyone on the team and I would be pissed if it was one of my teammates but a big issue in todays world is no one wants to be held accountable or they think the rules should bend for them because it "isn't a big deal". Obviously the rule is in place for a reason.
There lies some responsibility with the kid and parents however to ensure paperwork is up to date and parents all have access to Dragonfly. Of course it's on athletic admin to make sure it's there and correct.
Hopefully it's a situation where the papers were there just not uploaded.
