Never said he was overrated because he got sacked in the clutch or because he didn’t win the game.. I was simply pointing out some things he didn’t do against competition. When everyone else was so high on stats .. I’m very much informed my guy!.. I know exactly what I’m saying. Just because I’m not willing to agree means I’m uninformed I guess...that’s cool...lol you guys are funny.
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That’s why these QBs around here struggle on the next level! That’s very sad that most high schools are not teaching these QB’s how to read a defense.... how hard is it to get a QB to recognize 1 or 2 high Safeties...depth and leverage of corners... even if it’s a LB read it’s not hard to see if he sprints to the flats it’s cover 3.. if he drops hook to curl it’s cover 2... you mean to tell me that high school QB’s don’t know this!!... That’s unbelievable! I bet Will Grier knew how to read a defense! You say a WR goes to a specific spot .. what if they have the perfect defense for that play... A high school QB shouldn’t be able to get his team in a better play or audible to a run play if he sees a number advantage in the box???.... You can’t tell me that too complex for a high school QB... that’s crazy!
You do understand that last season and again this year Catholic will have an incredible defense. Catholic is one of the better teams in terms of disguising some of their coverages and always play great disciplined football. Howell was probably 80% in that game due to a shoulder injury, but did some great things with his legs.
He is one of the best in the Carolinas period, if you don't think that then you either have not seen him play or you just don't like him. I for one have great respect for him because it is rare to see/compete/coach against talent like he has.
So let's look at this....ur trying 2 compare what...and I'm guessing ur at least 30yrs old..that a 15-18 yr old kid with limited high school coaching...2 look and reason..break down a scheme like a 30+ yr old man? I'm 40 + yes old... there's stuff right now I know that I try 2 teach my 18yr old that he doesn't see or reason with yet. That's y there's such a low percentage that go D1 n eventually 2 the pros. Most these kids man is using God given talent in hs. That's y there's a certain requirement schools look for in height n weight jus to get noticed by the big dogs. Dabo sweeney is going 2 chance a 6ft6 300lb kid that runs a 4.7 with not a lick of talent over the 6ft 250lb kid that runs a 5 flat that's been a 4yr starter n won 4 state titles...he'll say I can coach him 2 b good...I cant coach size n speed.
I guess every power 5 coach saw something different than you. Unfortunately you're not a head coach or OC for any College program. So it really doesn't matter what you saw or believe you saw. Hopefully one of those 10 or 11 year old studs you were teaching how to read defenses, will make it to big stage and show everyone how it's done. I know he's a 4.0 kid who trains with Ex Duke QB Anthony Boone, who played under Coach Cutcliffe.(The QB whisperer) Who is making a name for himself working with QB's in the area. I doubt he's having problem reading defenses on the High School level......I believe he's going to be ok.
Just curious.What do you believe you're seeing that Willie Tagger, Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, David Cutcliffe, Dabo Swinney and Jim Harbaugh are not seeing?
Just curious.What do you believe you're seeing that Willie Tagger, Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, David Cutcliffe, Dabo Swinney and Jim Harbaugh are not seeing?
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Again..........You show your ignorance. It has zero to do with area. Plenty of great QB talent coming out of NC. The biggest change is in the position itself and the way the game has changed. Recognizing depth and leverage of corners is not where the game is unless you play for the Patriots. The QB position is all about being an athlete now. Go watch RH Southpointe. They put the best athlete at the QB position and they tell him to go be an athlete. I assure you Derion Kendrick didnt know or care about a single high safety. It worked just fine for his 2 rings and his Clemson commitment.
You clearly dont watch a ton of HS football in this area or any other. Just about every offensive play is called from the sideline. I cant think of 3 teams I have watched over the past 10 years where a QB came out of a huddle and checked out and reset a offense. Frankly I would say less than half of the OC's truly understand it.
Its funny you should mention Will Grier. You seem to think that Sam Howell has faced weak competition. Nobody faced more limited teams than Grier in HS. Seemed to work out OK for him. Watched both Don Bosco and Byrnes last year. Both were getting plays and checks from the sideline. While I am not 100% sure I am almost certain RH NW with MAson Rudolph was checking from sideline.
I never in one single post said Howell couldn’t read defense... just not impressed as you guys are .. simple!!!.
I can send you film right now of QB’s younger than seniors reading defense! Kids must not want to be QB’s on the next level if they can’t read a defense!.. I could tell the kid at Rock Hill couldn’t read defense as well. That’s why the ball was never thrown on the stick or gather.. play always broke down , a scramble occurs, then the ball comes out. Thus the reason he’s a WR. Cougars if your 18 yr old son can’t comprehend things then you might not be the guy to reach him. He needs to hear it from someone else... it’s like that sometimes.. he’s tired of hearing it from you! I can sit down with anyone of you guys and talk football and schemes all day!.. This is what I do!.. I don’t get into the hype. I have my own thoughts on what I see out here. Nobody can change that! Yes I mentioned Will Grier because his dad had him on point!. Reading defense was the argument not competition!... A baller is a baller. He should be able to do it against any team... Not just the bad ones.
What you meant to say is you are not as impressed as the guys who get paid millions of dollars to actually make these decisions versus the dude going to 7 on 7s and looking at film in his bedroom.
Exactly! You haven't said anything. If you allegedly have in depth knowledge of any position, one would imagine you would be able to articulate why you're not impressed? Outside of saying he's only capable of doing well against bad teams, which is a farce. Very knowledgeable people visit this board, outside of some of the nut jobs. I've learned a lot just by reading different post. Just my opinion, but you haven't been able to establish a legitimate argument about his ability outside of you're not impressed. That's like a lady in a book club saying, I don't like them because their uniforms are ugly. So once again i ask you.
What do you believe you're seeing that Willie Tagger, Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, David Cutcliffe, Dabo Swinney and Jim Harbaugh are not seeing?
Guys who get paid millions get it wrong as well my guy, maybe you haven’t noticed. Like I said previously, I wish the kid much success at football and just life period... but I need to see more to be impressed.. sorry!
I pointed out what he didn’t do against good teams .. in clutch situations...” when ELITE” QB’s get it done!... I wasn’t impressed before those games tho.. it’s nothing against him or not liking him.. I don’t know the kid to judge him personally.. I’m speaking on the throws I’ve seen him make, strictly talking football!....Let me ask you.... WHAT DOES HE DO THATS SOOO GREAT???
He has a Cannon of a arm. He makes throws that you seldom see if ever. He goes through his progressions and scans the field. He does not lock on to one receiver like many High School QB's. He understands match ups. He has mobility that can get him out of trouble and he can kill you with his legs. If he's not playing for SV, they might be a 500 ball club. I have a passion for players with great academics, which he has.. 99.9% of the time they are a pleasure to coach. I have a couple of friends who's tenure in the NFL was longer because of what they had between their ears. Kids who get it done in the class room retain information quicker and longer. He deserves all the attention and notoriety he's getting. On the high school level, it would be very difficult for me to call him overrated.
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You do realize how vague of a statement you're making. Elite QB's don't always get it done. As i mentioned in my earlier post. You're not articulating a legitimate argument outside of how you thought he should have performed against better teams. I'm not impressed is not an argument of one's ability.
Ok and I ask you, where we’re all these great things against CC and AC Reynolds.. You don’t know what their record would be without him because who knows who would be at QB.
Again he went against one of the best Catholic defenses ever and was injured. Do you not get that? I think CC wins regardless of his health but he was about 80% maybe due to a shoulder injury
I can understand u saying ur not impressed but comparing wins/losses with a person's talent is apples n oranges. Like saying because new England lost tom brady sux. Even tho he broke a super bowl record with 500 yrds+. Last time I check the qb doesnt cover or tackle anybody. Smh
Hes still not impressed. I wonder who he is impressed by and who he thinks is UNDERRATED?
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He does not play defense. The CC coaching staff thought he was elite. I'm pretty confident i'm spot on with how they would perform without him. As there are not a lot of kids like him growing on trees. He's also kept them in games. After over 10 different post. You still haven't touch the service or answered my question?
.What do you believe you're seeing that Willie Tagger, Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, David Cutcliffe, Dabo Swinney and Jim Harbaugh are not seeing?
I don't believe you really know the game as Blue and Gold suggested. You can't respond or answer any questions. You just divert and dance around with an argument of how he performed against games he lost. While you leave out games against Marvin Ridge, Mt. Tabor and Porter Ridge. All of your post, you're just throwing rocks with zero substance.
Nothing is sticking.
You say this is what you do, and how you've thought 10 & 11 years old, on how to read defense's. Yet you can't compel a legitimate reasoning on how you believe a kid is overrated. Come on Man. It shouldn't be that difficult from a guy who proclaims he knows the QB position. I'm starting to believe you're just picking up catch phrases and jargon from a book and from those all american coaches, who coach in the stands.
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Sure they do. The difference is those guys are held accountable for their mistakes by their results. Your the dude on the top row of the bleachers yelling " I knew they should have run that play. I'm brilliant" . I see them every Friday night in every stadium in the southeast.
The best thing about bedroom film analyzer guy is you will be nowhere to be found when Howell or anyone else you think is underrated performs at a high level. You will be gone or even better you will change that screen name like others have done. Then you don't have to be accountable for those comments.
I would out coach anyone on this thread...” Very Easily” Especially guys who don’t think high QB’s should be able to dissect a defense! You couldn’t even be on my staff with that nonsense!.... When Howell shows something that I can be impressed by .. I will give him his props without a doubt!.. RIGHT NOW IM NOT IMPRESSED!!....He doesn’t impress me when he takes off , just has size NO WIGGLE”.... Yes his arm is strong but his throws are inconsistent from the times that I have seen him in person.. His throwing motion is too big of a windup for my liking “ but who am I”.. He takes sacks when he shouldn’t.. don’t like the way he carries the ball when he takes off!...The kid can play ..but until I see something that makes ME say ok this kid is that guy... I’ll continue to NOT be impressed!... By the way CC defense is not all that so stop it .. undersized LB’s and mediocre DB’s.. great system and coaching!....Whenever anyone’s ready to meet up and TALK football.. I’m all for it.. name the place...
Lol...you didnt even know if Sun Valley made the playoffs last year. Now you are Sean Mcvay!!!
Soooooooo who r u impressed with? If Sam is overrated n ur not impressed who is underrated and impresses u?
You just described Baker Mayfield LOL. Wow with all of this football knowledge you must be on staff at a real powerhouse program or Schools are blowing up your phone to get you on staff. Howell has to take a lot of chances and sacks because the talent he plays with is not top level so he has to raise the level similar to Josh Ladowski who elevated a LKN program. Once he left LKN went back to what they are at there base. Sun Valley will take a similar dip. The kid has a God given “It” factor that most of us can see. He placed 4th in the Elite 11 as well so his mechanics and technique serve him wel.
Nick Saban, Jim Harbaugh, Willie Taggart, and Jimbo Fisher were all too busy. I'm actually doing lawn work, and the other guys are watching paint dry. Everyone agreed that Radio, might be a little advanced for you, but he would dumb in down.
Can you give him a ride home after you guys chat it up? His chain snapped off his bike.
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