Oak Grove @ North Davidson
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Oak Grove getting blazed similar to their score this past week against the private school out of High Point. Maybe worse. N.Davidson is poised to be a favorite to go deep in the 2aa playoffs.
In all seriousness, this game is a sham but next year will be very interesting. Like I said months ago, OG is going to take their lumps this year. But they will be well served next year for it. They will beat West, central and maybe East Davidson. Probably South Rowan too. I dunno about anyone else, but I'll be rooting for them and my former coach hard after this week.
My hope is that we have reeled in the unnecessary mouthing and selfish penalties that cost us the Davie game. Also please someone tell the Brown kid to not try to cut everything outside. Hit the hole and stay North and South, this isn't elementary football. Like Nut I wish OG luck in every game but this one.
Well stated in the previous two posts. It won’t be a game this year. I’m hoping that everyone keeps their head (on both sides) and just plays hard.
North is pretty good, but nowhere near good enough to be giving away 15 yards and/or extending drives with late hits.
Last year, the JV version of this game was well attended. The visitors (Oak Grove) side was absolutely full. I have season tickets at North and I’ve noticed that the home side doesn’t fill up as much as it once did. I know that a portion of that comes with the size of the school shrinking, but I’m not seeing some of the “old guard” who havent had kids there in decades. Reduced gate earnings is a scary thought!
Is some of the reason for less attendance due to dropping out of the 4A ranks? I hear a few people saying that could be it. If so, it isn’t due to the visitor’s gate. Parkland and Reynolds could barely muster 50 fans each. ( Parkland way less than that). The in county schools bring way more, even though many of them expect to lose by 30+. (North was up 35-0 on East Davidson last year after the first quarter).
Sorry for the rambling post.. I went all over the place, didn’t I?
North is pretty good, but nowhere near good enough to be giving away 15 yards and/or extending drives with late hits.
Last year, the JV version of this game was well attended. The visitors (Oak Grove) side was absolutely full. I have season tickets at North and I’ve noticed that the home side doesn’t fill up as much as it once did. I know that a portion of that comes with the size of the school shrinking, but I’m not seeing some of the “old guard” who havent had kids there in decades. Reduced gate earnings is a scary thought!
Is some of the reason for less attendance due to dropping out of the 4A ranks? I hear a few people saying that could be it. If so, it isn’t due to the visitor’s gate. Parkland and Reynolds could barely muster 50 fans each. ( Parkland way less than that). The in county schools bring way more, even though many of them expect to lose by 30+. (North was up 35-0 on East Davidson last year after the first quarter).
Sorry for the rambling post.. I went all over the place, didn’t I?
I saw Oak Grove in High Point last week, and I just don't think they are ready for ND.
I'm going to be a little torn on Friday night. I have gone to nearly every ND game for about 10 years and have been a big fan. I live in the OG district, but have a kid who is a senior at North. I have a very high opinion of the head coach at Oak Grove.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is conflicted.
I'm going to be a little torn on Friday night. I have gone to nearly every ND game for about 10 years and have been a big fan. I live in the OG district, but have a kid who is a senior at North. I have a very high opinion of the head coach at Oak Grove.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is conflicted.
Nope. I graduated from North and have gone to nearly every game since. But according to modern district lines I would have gone to OG and my kids most likely will down the road.
And yes, the coach at OG was my coach as well.
And yes, the coach at OG was my coach as well.
Gonna be interesting to see what happens to North, OG and Ledford at the next reclassification. Will the conference stay intact?
Some folks complain about the size of the conference. But for many years, Thomasville played in the old South Piedmont Conference. There were nine teams and no endowment games. So teams played eight conference games and only two non-conference....similar to today. But the huge difference is that only the conference winner went to the playoffs. Talk about creating some rivalries!
I, for one, hope at least the Davidson county teams stay together. Even though there are sometimes some mismatches, it’s good for most sports and great for the athletic pocketbooks.
Some folks complain about the size of the conference. But for many years, Thomasville played in the old South Piedmont Conference. There were nine teams and no endowment games. So teams played eight conference games and only two non-conference....similar to today. But the huge difference is that only the conference winner went to the playoffs. Talk about creating some rivalries!
I, for one, hope at least the Davidson county teams stay together. Even though there are sometimes some mismatches, it’s good for most sports and great for the athletic pocketbooks.
The main factor in everyone staying 2A will be what the the NCHSAA decides to do about 4A and 1A. Instead of there being 25% of schools in each classification, they went with a 20/30/30/20 model this time around. Meaning 77 schools are 4A, 113 in 3A, 114 in 2A and 75 in 1A. If they choose to go back to 25%, OG, ND and Ledford (and probably Central) will head to 3A with their projected 1000 enrollment. Nobody in the county wants to be in a conference with North Forsyth and SW Randolph as the northern and southern border schools like it had been in the past.
I agree wholeheartedly about the current conference being good for income.
I agree wholeheartedly about the current conference being good for income.
Travel. On that note, going to South Rowan sucked in 4A and it still sucks now lmao.
Maybe we can do like the old days and have the CCC be 2A/3A. I doubt it, but it would help travel and gate.
NF is not a far drive from ND?
South Rowan is a straight shot on the interstate which is not bad.
Imagine some of the mountain teams having to travel on all those back roads by activity bus...now that would be bad travel!
NF isn't a long drive from ND, but it is a bad one, especially on Friday around 6 pm. It's just one of those 'can't get there from here' kinds of things. Mt Tabor and Reagan are the same way. I hate going up into Winston on a Friday afternoon. Maybe 52 is better than it used to be, but I doubt it.
Traffic on 52 and university is awful, especially Fridays.
Traffic on 85 around China Grove is awful EVERY DAY, I don't even want to speak of Friday night lol.
The mountain teams have my sympathies but it doesn't make me want to deal with bad traffic. I already get mad enough about the wine and cheese our crowd brings...
In that scenario, East would probably be 3A too. Over 1,000 last time I checked.
Lots of projections out there for the next realignment. If they stay with the current model possibly a few schools will have to move to 3A. If they go to a 25 model then THS could possibly be 1A again if they stay around 650-700 kids. ED/CD/WD/SR/Salisbury and Lex could be the only 2A schools left in the CCC.
Other talk is of splitting the CCC (ND/LHS/ED/OG/Lexington), (THS/Salisbury/CD/WD/SR) also.
Other talk is of splitting the CCC (ND/LHS/ED/OG/Lexington), (THS/Salisbury/CD/WD/SR) also.
I apologize for not being more specific. Nothing wrong with North Forsyth and SW Randolph. Ledford was in a conference with them and it was a pain the butt getting through Winston in the afternoons. Not as much traffic to get to SW Randolph, just a distance thing. Not as bad as the mountain schools have to do,I’m sure.
Are you saying two five team conferences? Frankly, I believe that would be much worse than ten teams. It would certainly be doing a huge disservice to Thomasville. Other than possibly Salisbury, there is zero traditional rivalry with the others. At a time when our athletic budget is really strained, that would be a tremendous blow.
Does the NCHSAA have a set number of conferences to fit all the teams into in each classification?
OC that is why I said to switch T-ville with East and it could work!!
Would you favor a five team conference? That seems like it would create a far bigger problem than a ten team conference.
If that were to happen if I was North, I would play maybe a couple of teams from the other conference and three tough non conference games. If I were T-Ville I'd play the guys you played the first 2 games and add maybe East, and two HP schools!
It’s nice to have some freedom to build a strong schedule... especially in baseball, basketball and the like. 18 conference games don’t allow for much of that. A 4 game conference slate is challenging in its own right... Thomasville used to beg for teams to play and had to reach up into the 4A ranks to find good games.
10 teams isn’t ideal... 5 teams also isn’t ideal. Maybe 7?
I look at that 1A conference down east with 2 football playing schools... round robin 3 times and then non conference the rest of the way. Not exciting in the least to play the same team three times in regular season.
10 teams isn’t ideal... 5 teams also isn’t ideal. Maybe 7?
I look at that 1A conference down east with 2 football playing schools... round robin 3 times and then non conference the rest of the way. Not exciting in the least to play the same team three times in regular season.
You don’t want to deal with university in s Friday night lol.
I too am conflicted. I love Mark, think the world of him. As things were I would have been a Bear. But I was a Black Knight. Idk I guess I feel more loyalty to Mark than NDHS. Best of luck to all the kids, hopefully a clean injury free game.
I too am conflicted. I love Mark, think the world of him. As things were I would have been a Bear. But I was a Black Knight. Idk I guess I feel more loyalty to Mark than NDHS. Best of luck to all the kids, hopefully a clean injury free game.
I see why people would not enjoy a 5/6 team conference but if you have the ability to schedule your non-conference games and have positive relationships and contacts in your sport, it could be beneficial. Some conference the NCHSAA make are weak in certain sports, and more non-conference games prepare teams better for the playoffs. Or the even bigger problem if not knowing until the season has started if some teams will have enough to field and also have a JV team.
OG fixing to play a defense like they have never seen and probably want see again this year!! The ND players is going to come out with a point prove!!
Yeah well, I hope we prove our point with hard and clean hits, wrapping up and taking to the ground smoothly. No late hits or riff raff! Lol
OC, I agree it would not be good for THS,. Just think the 10 team league is too large and inhibits scheduling of non-conference games in all sports.
Oak Grove will always be with North and Ledford
It may very well be true that OG, Ledford and ND will always be a package deal, and probably should be. But I thought the same about Thomasville and Lexington and the folks in Chapel Hill sure tried to split us up. If it hadn’t been for the conference AD’s, we would have been stuck in a conference with Guilford and Randolph County schools with which we have nothing in common.
My preference would be to have an eight team conference with just the current Davidson County schools. But I’m sure the Rowan County folks might take exception to that.
All of this may not matter for two reasons. Realignment may move some schools up and/or down. And most importantly, none of us get a vote.
My preference would be to have an eight team conference with just the current Davidson County schools. But I’m sure the Rowan County folks might take exception to that.
All of this may not matter for two reasons. Realignment may move some schools up and/or down. And most importantly, none of us get a vote.
Is that listing for a 2A conference? Why would OG not be listed....OG, ND, and Ledford will all be in same classification...most likely 3A?
If we go back to 25%-25%-25%-25% they will be 3A but with the current splits it will be very close for North but Ledford and Oak Grove will be 2A.
