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MAC playoff discussion round 1

AhsCougar1

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(10)Asheville at (7) Erwin for the second time in 7 days. I said before this game is for bragging rights for Erwin, a chance to save face after last night for Asheville and the opportunity to get either of our asses beat the following week against Crest. As for us, I don't know how as a coach, you can get this team back after that debacle last night. What a bunch of cry babys we have on our roster. Like I said, the big guy who got hurt didn't say a single word to a teammate last night in the second half. He was asleep on the sideline, not cheering for his guys and completely uninterested. That's sad. Then the heart and soul of the team goes off the deep end, for a reason we still don't know. I just don't know how the result in 6 days could be any better than the one last night. Maybe I will be wrong. Also, can someone please explain to me why we continue for the last 15 years to play backups on our special teams? We were gonna get the ball back with 5 mins left down 8 nearly at midfield and one of our guys who ONLY plays special teams lets the ball touch him and that was basically the game right there.
Offensively, Erwin doesn't have the horses they have had in years past, but their offensive scheme is phenomenal. The plays they run are creative, fun to watch and effective. Bucky Tarr and Mike Sexton have such a grasp on that offense that even without D1 talent, they keep you so off guard its hard to stop. But as I said last night, we held them basically to 14 points and we still lost, so that tells you how our offense is firing. Asheville last night had 4 turnovers (3 picks and a muffed punt) and 100+ yards in penalties. I think we only punted twice. I say at this point we should just go 4-5 wide. That's the only way we can get their 7-9 guys out of the box. We will see... We have to change something up because last night was a disgrace to Asheville high football. 6 points SMH.

(14) Piedmont at (3) AC Reynolds: Reynolds earned the right to play a cupcake in the first round. They advance easily, but I believe they play either Weddington who beat our ass the last 2 years and beat Reynolds ass last year in round 2. Or Cuthberston with their quarterback who has committed to Oklahoma. Either way it will certainly be a game in round 2. Reynolds easily wins this week though.

(11) Seventy First at (6) TC Roberson: A 9-2 team from Fayetteville is coming 275 miles up the mountain to play a team that is 3-8. There is something very wrong with that. Seventy first wins big I think.
 
Piedmont is alot better than you think. Probably would had been the 2nd best team in the MAC behind ACR. Look at their losses. Very close calls. ACR ahouls win but dont be surprised if its close at half or going to the 4th.

Man does the nchsaa have something against the mac. I hate these conference rematches in round 1. If Asheville players quit like you say, then I see Erwin winning... again.

TC will get smoked.

Who else is in?
 
Dammit, I hate conference rematches, if we lose again, we'll never hear the end of it, but then again the winner will just get rip apart in by Crest in the 2nd round.
 
Cougar1, I know I threw a little heat your way a couple weeks ago about you making fun of TC's whole "family" thing on their jerseys, but last night what happened to us proved my point. This Asheville team is not family, or brothers, or a united team at all. We have a bunch of kids who like to do their own thing without anyone telling them what to do. When you have parents sitting in the stands screaming at our coaches, you know when the kids get home they hear the same crap. How is a kid supposed to respect his coaches when mom and dad are telling him how bad the coaches suck?

My prediction, Erwin 35 - Asheville 6. We don't deserve to win another game this year, and I think the coaching staff needs to clean house next year and send the cry babies and their parents down the road.
 
Cougar1, I know I threw a little heat your way a couple weeks ago about you making fun of TC's whole "family" thing on their jerseys, but last night what happened to us proved my point. This Asheville team is not family, or brothers, or a united team at all. We have a bunch of kids who like to do their own thing without anyone telling them what to do. When you have parents sitting in the stands screaming at our coaches, you know when the kids get home they hear the same crap. How is a kid supposed to respect his coaches when mom and dad are telling him how bad the coaches suck?

My prediction, Erwin 35 - Asheville 6. We don't deserve to win another game this year, and I think the coaching staff needs to clean house next year and send the cry babies and their parents down the road.
Hey I got nothing but respect for you buddy. Im with you 100 percent on the "we don't deserve to win another game this year" comment. In August, me and a couple other guys were thinking this team would be as good as last year. I know I remember thinking that it might be hard to for people to score on our defense. Even last night I look out on the field and I see Jose Daniels, Isaiah Drummond, Christian Green, Devon Davidson, Reggie Battle, Aquila Smith, McDaniels, Neal Hutchins, Makaus Brewer, Shamari Shivers, Ahmad Shivers, Peter Leota, Andrew Leota, Cade Pearson, Deandre Gaskin, Keonta Ratliff Johnson and Hakim Allen and I just cant believe how a team with that many good players can be that bad. As Volfan said, we haven't beaten 1 real good team this year.
As for the "family" Roberson jerseys thing its a little bit ironic, because Roberson is notorious for looking good, being big and being bad. Well guess who that is this year? US. We have tons of talent and size and we have been a massive disappointment. I think when Wilkins decides to call it a career whenever that may be, the 2015 team will be the biggest underachieving team he ever coached. I never thought Id see a day where Asheville high will be lucky to win a first round game.
 
Why in the hell would they even release brackets if they aren't official anyway? I don't like playing conference teams again either but now both of us play tougher opponents.
 
Love It! I knew they were preliminary, but most of the time they don't change!!!
 
I'm confused as to why Cuthbertson is ahead of us, but oh well, on to Weddington.
 
Well so much for all the BS I wrote about our rematch. Now both of us play tougher opponents
 
You do know their QB is going to Oklahoma right? Plus he missed some games and that's why they have the record they have! You had a lot better chance of beating Asheville again then beating them!
 
Weddington again? Sucks to be eliminated by them 3 years in a row. :mad:

Agreed, but on the other hand......how sweet would it be if our guys sucked it up and went down to Matthews and smacked Weddington in the mouth? I wouldn't mind seeing the 12 to 15 guys on our team that actually give a damn get on one bus and go down there and play their butts off and get a W.
 
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12-15? You are too kind sir. Maybe 2-5. Weddington is far too disciplined to lose to us. Our guys are more worried about Facebook and instagram than football and it shows on the field.
 
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I'm confused as to why Cuthbertson is ahead of us, but oh well, on to Weddington.

In the prelims - Asheville was the 10 seed and Cuthbertson was the 11 - both were matched against conference foes in the 1st round, Erwin and Weddington, respectively. I guess someone complained about that so they switched them. It happens all the time as part of that trade off.
 
To (almost) all AHS fans, good luck. I am sure Coach Wilkens and his staff are capable of preparing the cougars for a win in this 1st. round game. They have been around a long time and they know what to do to get their team ready. This staff has seen adversity over the years and have overcome it. A coach doesn't stay around as long as he has without having the tools to take this on and succeed. Again good luck and bring back the MAC a first round win.
 
That won't happen ceingle. Weddington and those Charlotte teams don't screw around. This will be the 3rd straight year they knock us out and the severity of our beating will determine if our best player actually gets to play or not. I hate to be so negative but if the players don't give a damn, why should the fans?
 
Good luck to the Warriors and Rockets as well CE. I think you both you guys have a much better shot than we do. I'll be pulling for all the MAC teams from here on out.
 
Coaches job to get them up mentally. Got to challenge them. I know it's disappointing for the fans but they need your support more now than when everything was going right.If only one kid shows he is not quitting then you need to support him. A fire can be started with just a spark. It's not time for you to quit too. Just my thoughts. Good luck.
 
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I'm expecting some good games from both Erwin and Asheville. I think ACR will be challenged for a half and pull away.
 
I'm with ahscougar1, this is a low character group with NO leadership at all. It's bad if the coaches have to get you psyched up to play in a win or go home scenario. Having talked to some former players and other people close to the program, this team just doesn't want it bad enough. They say they want to win but they aren't willing to put in the work and focus it takes to be a championship caliber team. People can say what they want about Ashevilles old school style of offense, but it doesn't matter what style you run with a group like this that doesn't truly care about the team and about each other. Several players showed their butts at the end of the game. Where was that passion, fire, and energy at during the game? I don't get it.
 
Sounds like the coaches have their work cut out for them. As a fan you probably feel helpless. Sad that all of this tallent is going to waste. Thanks for the explanation. I am closer to understanding your problem. Glad we're not having that problem. I wish you good luck but it sounds like you are going to need more than that.
 
Reynolds has probably a 75 percent chance of winning. Erwin 50 percent chance and us 20 percent.

The 2015 team will go down as the most underachieving team Wilkins ever coached. At least the 2012 team just didnt have much talent. They are the perfect example of what happens when talent doesn't work hard. I've seen Asheville games for 16 years and I've never seen a less fiery bunch. When you see your supposed leaders literally sitting on the bench their their head down 30 yards from his teammates while the defense is playing, that tells you all you need to know. I also know people close to the program and they say the same things. This team says they want to win but aren't willing to work for it. Every practice consists of moping around and waiting in line to see the trainer. I guess they figured because we have won 13 of the last 15 Mac championships that somehow all they had to do was show up, well they found out real quick that preseason polls don't mean jack. We were picked unanimously to win the Mac and then to finish 3rd for the first time in 15 years is just pathetic. And the worst part is I bet I'm more embarrassed as a fan than the players are. Smh damn shame
 
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At the first of the year when they had Asheville ranked around #5 I saw the Newton-Conover film and knew Asheville was not a top15 3A. Newton is barely an average 2A team who finished 5th in their conference they beat by a small margin. Asheville has had skill and toughness in previous years. This team is not a typical Asheville physical team that doesn't shy from contact. I'm not bashing Asheville. You have a great coach. He will evaluate the team and have Asheville back on track next year.
 
I'm afraid I agree with you godevils. Newton conover had one superstar and several good players but the fact they gave Asheville all they wanted was an early warning. The elite Asheville teams that deserved their top 5 rankings like 02,03,03,05,07,09,11,13,14 would have beaten Franklin pisgah newton conover Roberson by 35. Usually this time of year I'm excited. A year ago we had the one seed and had a hell of a team. This year feels like a waste.
 
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Just remember this AhsCougar, for all the disappointment you speak of, all of the underachieving, you still went 9-2. When you are disappointed with a 9-2 team, well that says how good your program is and that you are one of the States Powerhouses. You will bounce back next year, good luck Friday from your friends at Reynolds.
 
Thanks, you guys earned your chance at a 1 seed. I still to this day believe athletically asheville and Reynolds are nearly identical, but if we played 10 times this yea, y'all would beat us 10 times and that's pathetic on our part.
 
Good luck to ACR and Erwin this Friday, I won't attend our game this week, Matthews is a little to far for me from the time I get off, thinking about being in Lester friday night
 
Good luck to ACR and Erwin this Friday, I won't attend our game this week, Matthews is a little to far for me from the time I get off, thinking about being in Lester friday night

I was thinking the same thing man. May as well go give Erwin some money and support those guys this Friday. Just hope someone from the MAC makes it deep this year.
 
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