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MAC 2016.....

Very true, a handful of plays away from 4 or 5 rings. Oh well it is what it is. 1 is certainly better than none.

As for this season, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Asheville lost 4 or 5 games and I wouldn't be surprised if Asheville ran the the table during the regular season. 2 big targets on the perimeter and I hear Devon has made some big strides this offseason. Defense is what I'm worried about.

Erwin will be solid but I'm still not sold on them being the favorite. I still think Reynolds could be the favorite with what they have coming back up front on both sides of the ball.
 
I feel like a traitor but Lee Edwards wins it. For so many years they have just handcuffed their offensive players, but that will change this fall. There isn't a team in this conference that can match Asheville athlete for athlete, and that's what's great about the spread it puts players in a position to win 1 on 1 matchups.
Asheville has played in a box for so long and really hampered some of their players abilities. They laughed when Erwin was excited about Denzel McKnight when he transferred. At Erwin he was one of the best players in the conference. Thats the impact the spread can have.

1. Asheville
2. Erwin
3. Acr
4. Tc
5. Enka (surprise)
6. NB
7. McDowell
 
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Swain and Murphy have been picked over Rville the last two seasons. During that time we have went 12-0 in SMC and 28-3 over all. We have won 15 straight SMC games and Andrews will make it 16. Now they have picked us at third again. I think ACR, Asheville,M Murphy, and Swain get voted for out of habit because they have been winning conference. Erwin and rville have been winning conference or in the hunt the last few years but not long enough to change the coaches vote. Or habit.
 
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Erwin hasn't won the conference title they shared a conference title with Asheville a few years ago. But I do think they are the favorite this year.
 
Since the current MAC was formed in 2009-Overall conference champions

2009-Asheville
2010-Reynolds
2011-Asheville
2012-Reynolds/Roberson
2013-Asheville
2014-Asheville
2015-Reynolds
 
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Would not surprise me ehswarriors02. The offense is in good hands with coach metcalf. He is one of the best assistants in the state. I think the biggest thing for Asheville will be keeping that physical style of play during the transition into the spread. Reynolds fans may disagree, but I felt like they have gone through some years where they just weren't very physical since they went to the spread under Laws. Their most successful seasons under Laws (2009, 2010, 2015) have been the years where they really seemed to play physical up front and have a strong running game. Hope Asheville doesn't lose that physicality that we've been known for over the years during the transition to the spread. Will be fun to see the new offense though with 2 big receivers who can flat out go get the ball.
 
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ehswarriors02 said:
I feel like a traitor but Lee Edwards wins it. For so many years they have just handcuffed their offensive players, but that will change this fall. There isn't a team in this conference that can match Asheville athlete for athlete, and that's what's great about the spread it puts players in a position to win 1 on 1 matchups.
Asheville has played in a box for so long and really hampered some of their players abilities. They laughed when Erwin was excited about Denzel McKnight when he transferred. At Erwin he was one of the best players in the conference. Thats the impact the spread can have.

1. Asheville
2. Erwin
3. Acr
4. Tc
5. Enka (surprise)
6. NB
7. McDowell
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Me and some friends was just talking about this the other day, I've heard nothing but good things so far. Clearly Erwin is favorite. But this new O works in our favor and I believe will put up numbers this year.
 
I cannot imagine what ashevilles offenses would have looked like over the years had Asheville been one of the first teams to go to the spread instead of one of the last.

Imagine Michael Byrd Crezdon butler Johnny white Giovanni McKnight Darius Drummond Rahkeem Morgan Brandon Williams Tysean Holloway Trevor sawyer Jave jones Isaiah Drummond and Michael Hines in the spread offense running jet sweeps etc. That would have been absolutely ridiculous.
 
Look at what Rico dowdle did in the spread last year and now imagine what it would have looked like with another Rico dowdle back there in the backfield with him. That's what a Crezdon butler Johnny white spread offense would have looked like. In 2004,2005 I see no way in hell Asheville would have had a close game with those guys in the spread offense.
 
ehswarriors02 said:
I feel like a traitor but Lee Edwards wins it. For so many years they have just handcuffed their offensive players, but that will change this fall. There isn't a team in this conference that can match Asheville athlete for athlete, and that's what's great about the spread it puts players in a position to win 1 on 1 matchups.
Asheville has played in a box for so long and really hampered some of their players abilities. They laughed when Erwin was excited about Denzel McKnight when he transferred. At Erwin he was one of the best players in the conference. Thats the impact the spread can have.

1. Asheville
2. Erwin
3. Acr
4. Tc
5. Enka (surprise)
6. NB
7. McDowell
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Denzel
McKnight was nearly irrelevant for us and the following year at Erwin he was one of the best offensive players in the mountains because sexton found tons of ways to get him the ball
 
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I'm going to throw my 2 cents in. This obviously based off seeing every MAC team in 7on7.

ACR- I think they stumbled onto something when they moved Rico to QB. I know they don't have a kid like hi but they've got some very good looking ones who will run like crazy behind those big hog Molly's.
Ash/Erwin- I'm very interested to see Asheville in the spread during a live ball game. They had some great looking kids all over the field. Erwin has what we all know the best offensive scheme around can the D slow ppl down? I'm not in the know there.
TC- New coach will take about 2-3 to get the right mindset. However I don't ever think that school is a football mentality school.
MCDowell
NB
Enka
 
I thought the I suited Asheville well for many years. I personally don't see Brandon whiteside being a good spread QB. Look how dominating crest has been in the I all these years. The few years they didn't have much success was when they were in the spread.
 
The only thing about the traditional I that I'm not a fan of is it takes a very solid QB to make it work. The quarterback has to be very accurate in order to keep defenses honest, and not just crowding the box.
In the spread there just isn't a way you can crowd the box, because when you do the band will start playing shortly.
With Asheville they almost always have an athletic QB and that's just another player you have to defend in the spread. Even Crest will employ some spread concepts in a lot of games.
The spread can also be used many different ways. Power run(Tennessee), air raid(Texas Tech), spread option (Oregon). I'll try to keep it short but look at how these teams excite their concepts. Tennessee runs traditional power plays out of the spread because it gives their ball carriers room to operate with teams having to stay outside. Texas Tech looks more like Erwin, and we've all seen Oregon with the option game and the headaches is creates by having the different options on each play. 1. Handoff to rb. 2. Qb keeps the ball. 3. Pass

There are just countless ways the spread can be used.
 
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I might disagree a little with you guys. If you are going to run the spread you better have a great qb and a great qb coach as well. Athletes are nice but it does no good if you can't coach them and have a qb that has the accuracy to get them the ball. In all honesty the best teams and the most difficult teams to beat are teams that can pound the ball all night. It eats clock and demoralizes the other team. South Point, Crest, Asheville, Catholic, etc are all examples of this. That is what makes them so hard to beat. I see teams all over the state running the spread with more athletes then anyone in WNC and they still suck because they don't have the system to run it. I think Asheville will be good because they had a pretty good looking qb last season, but it will take a while to figure this offense out.
 
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Can someone explain to me why people are so high on ACR? I know they have tradition and they will always be a very tough opponent, but they lost like 90% of their offense. I am just curious what I am missing here because I could be totally wrong about them.
 
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BD Warrior said:
Can someone explain to me why people are so high on ACR? I know they have tradition and they will always be a very tough opponent, but they lost like 90% of their offense. I am just curious what I am missing here because I could be totally wrong about them.
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For me it's the system. They might have lost Rico but they can change up what they run from an all out spread getting rid of the ball with quick passes or out formationing you to run the ball. The other thing is their D is always soooo good. Now don't get me wrong I also think Erwin has a helluva Offensive scheme that utilizes their playmakers but I don't think their D is as strong as ACR. Again top three are always a toss up but preseason without watching anyone line up and physically play that's my pick.
 
Alright you cry babies. I know the city of Asheville is attracting more homosexuals than a south point fan bent over showing his plumber crack at at a liver mush festival. That's probably why TCR sucks. To many girly men walking around them hills. But anyway! Forget last years playoffs. After carefully analyzing the brackets, I've decided that Asheville and ACR especially got hit with the unfortunate playoff scheme. Weddington having being caught looking ahead, let Marvin Ridge slip right by them. Had they been focused, ACR and Weddington may never had seen each other at all until the fourth round. I know this is irrelevant, however I will say this. I watched the Crest game against Weddington, as well as the ACR game against Weddington. And I watched the state championship. Had Crest fallen, I'm pretty certain ACR and Weddington would have beaten Southern Durham.
 
BD Warrior said:
Can someone explain to me why people are so high on ACR? I know they have tradition and they will always be a very tough opponent, but they lost like 90% of their offense. I am just curious what I am missing here because I could be totally wrong about them.
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If you ask me it's because they got four big boys up front coming back, and I believe 7 on D. Acr is acr. I believe they will be more balanced this year but they run game should be they bread an butter.
 
Wncfbfan, I disagree about Reynolds defense. Last year was their first good defense since 2010 IMO.
 
Wncfbfan a couple years ago there was a thread on here by a Reynolds fan talking about how soft their defense had gotten. Reynolds has a great program but their defense is not always "soooo good. Whatever they have coming back, they are going to have to replace 75 percent of their offensive production from one guy. Nobody has played a game yet obviously but one could make a better argument for Erwin being the preseason favorite than Reynolds. However Erwin COULD start the season 1-3.
 
BD, those were the overall champions. This may be the year Erwin breaks through as Erwin has been 2nd or 3rd overall every year since 09.

2009: 1. AHS. 2. ACR. 3. Erwin

2010: 1. ACR. 2. AHS. 3. Erwin

2011: 1. AHS. 2. TCR. 3. Erwin

2012: 1a. ACR. 1b. TCR. 3a. Erwin. 3b. AHS

2013: 1. AHS. 2. Erwin. 3. ACR

2014: 1. AHS. 2. Erwin. 3. ACR

2015: 1. ACR. 2. Erwin. 3. AHS
 
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Wncfbfan, I disagree about Reynolds defense. Last year was their first good defense since 2010 IMO.
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Dynasty and cougar

I totally get it and agree that last year was best D since 2010(God they were good). I should've prefaced my "soooo good" comment with the reasoning. And that is that they almost platoon both sides of ball with quality kids on each side. So while the majority of teams they play are playing with 27 kids or so they are playing with 37-40. That's a big difference maker and also comes up clutch in the forth. Now I will say I've always liked watching your kids on the Defensvie side as well. Those LB's y'all had the last couple of years were impressive. I really do think that if Charlie gets the offense rolling y'all will be hard to stop.( But again were talking about Asheville so you're always hard to stop) Good Luck to you guys I'm def going to catch a game or two.
 
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AhsCougar1 said:
Wncfbfan a couple years ago there was a thread on here by a Reynolds fan talking about how soft their defense had gotten. Reynolds has a great program but their defense is not always "soooo good. Whatever they have coming back, they are going to have to replace 75 percent of their offensive production from one guy. Nobody has played a game yet obviously but one could make a better argument for Erwin being the preseason favorite than Reynolds. However Erwin COULD start the season 1-3.
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Unfortunately I think you are right on Erwin starting out with a losing record. We start out with Davidson Day at home and they are no slouch. After that we get Mtn Heritage who went 10-2 last season and return everyone including Madison's best player. Next we get to travel to Chattanooga to take on Otwhella which is a loss. Then we get 6A Science Hill at home. After that we get to go to Franklin and the pit. Our non conference schedule is brutal. The good news is we get Reynolds the first game so we might get a break...:eek:
 
With the way they seed the playoffs playing a schedule like that is not very smart. If your playing teams that your not competitive with that does not help you at all! Who knows Erwin is probably better this than last maybe the Tennessee teams take a step back and you give them a game or even win. If Erwin is as good as some people say they should beat Franklin and Mountain Heritage no matter what they have coming back.
 
Yea mountain heritage should pose 0 problem, but if you're going into the playoffs with 2-4 losses, that doesn't help you at all in the playoffs when you have to play a great team in the 1st round and a state champion contender in the second
 
AhsCougar1 said:
Yea mountain heritage should pose 0 problem, but if you're going into the playoffs with 2-4 losses, that doesn't help you at all in the playoffs when you have to play a great team in the 1st round and a state champion contender in the second
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That is what happened last season. Erwin should beat Franklin and MH, but both of those teams are picked to win their respective conferences so they are no slouch. The worst part about playing big physical teams like Ootlewah and Science Hill is they beat up on your team so much physically and mentally. Last season Erwin was in shock and not prepard for Ootlewah and got behind so fast.
 
2 weeks to go and it is very quite on here. How is everybody's team looking so far. I am intrigued by Roberson and Asheville with their new coaches.
 
1) Erwin - They should be the favorites at they return the most this season and they will have the best QB in the mountains. Erwin will need to keep him healthy during their tough non conference slate. I also think that Erwin needs to put more emphasis on the running game in order to make it far in the playoffs when the weather gets bad.
2) ACR - It is really a toss up here with Reynolds and Asheville , but I will go with my Rockets. They lose arguably the best high school player in school history, but they also have a lot coming back. I think St. Onge will prove to be the breakout player of the MAC this year.
3) Asheville - they will always be loaded, but it will take a while for the players to learn their new system. They also are losing most of their production from last season.

No teams outside of the top 3 will win a playoff game again this year
4) North Buncombe
5) TCR
6) McDowell
7) Enka

I am glad this is the last season of the MAC as it currently is. I wish they would change the conference schedule. ACR gets Erwin and Asheville the first two games then cupcakes the rest of the way. Last year the conference championship was decided after the second week of conference play, which took out a lot of the excitement.
 
Packer10 said:
1) Erwin - They should be the favorites at they return the most this season and they will have the best QB in the mountains. Erwin will need to keep him healthy during their tough non conference slate. I also think that Erwin needs to put more emphasis on the running game in order to make it far in the playoffs when the weather gets bad.
2) ACR - It is really a toss up here with Reynolds and Asheville , but I will go with my Rockets. They lose arguably the best high school player in school history, but they also have a lot coming back. I think St. Onge will prove to be the breakout player of the MAC this year.
3) Asheville - they will always be loaded, but it will take a while for the players to learn their new system. They also are losing most of their production from last season.

No teams outside of the top 3 will win a playoff game again this year
4) North Buncombe
5) TCR
6) McDowell
7) Enka

I am glad this is the last season of the MAC as it currently is. I wish they would change the conference schedule. ACR gets Erwin and Asheville the first two games then cupcakes the rest of the way. Last year the conference championship was decided after the second week of conference play, which took out a lot of the excitement.
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I agree with this. Erwin has a very good rb Isaiah Poore who they just don't use enough. I hope they get him the ball more this season even if it is through the air. It will come down to ACR, Asheville, and Erwin as it has for a while. I would not be surprised if any of these teams win the conference this season.
 
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