Tha'ts the problem, a small school has ONE D-1 prospect and they feel they can beat every school in the state, past, present, and future. All while the upper classifications can have 3-10 D-1, a couple of D-2's and backups that could start at a small school. The logic is flawed
If Tarboro was 2A
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Tha'ts the problem, a small school has ONE D-1 prospect and they feel they can beat every school in the state, past, present, and future. All while the upper classifications can have 3-10 D-1, a couple of D-2's and backups that could start at a small school. The logic is flawed
They actually went five years in a row to the 2a state championships. Of course during that time they had three NFL players. In 08 and 09 Takoby Cofield (Duke and Redskins) 10 and 11Todd Gurley (Georgia and Rams) and Tyquan Lewis ( Ohio State and Colts) and in 12 Tyquan Lewis Sr year. Todd and Tyquan are both starting in the NFL now and Takoby is starting in the CFL.
They beat us in 2011 and we had a total of 6 players on that team that ended up being D1 players and a total of 17 kids that went on to play in college. Coming into that game we did not feel that Gurley was all that but he put on the best performance I have ever seen in a high school football game that day and got rid of any doubt. I get what you're saying but I have no doubt that as a program they could play with most, not all, but most.
I believe Tarboro can beat Northeastern, Brevard, SW Onslow, and this year Wallace Rose Hill Team. Hibriten, Shelby, and Redisville would be a tough battle.
Charlotte Catholic would bet a better fit if they would have kept them at 4A.
Charlotte Catholic would bet a better fit if they would have kept them at 4A.
Catholic would be the favorite in 3AA and 4A. 4AA would be a much tougher road. Hough is a good example. They played North Meck, Mallard Creek, and Vance. Vance is now playing Myers Park and the winner most likely gets Wake Forest. That is a gauntlet of teams to play. I think Catholic is in it to win it against all of those squads but they would have some matchup issues with MC, Vance, MP, and Wake.
Not to be picking at you but how did Reidsville gift WRH the title? I was at that game and I didn't get that comment. WRH had the best rb in possibly the State last year. The best I saw anyway. 4-5 times he took the first play from scrimmage last year to the house. I saw him do it 3 times. In the title game he took it 73 yds for 6. If you are referring to the OT fumble that was good coaching. When WRH scored in OT I turned to dogs79 and told him now you tell your guys to strip the ball. That is how you win in OT. 2 plays later they stripped the ball. It was not gift wrapped. WRH played their ass off!
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He was shut down the 2nd half and the game went into overtime and the fumble at the last minute.
Didn't Reidsville throw a intreception at WHR 3 yard line and return it 97 yards for a TD that's a 14 point swing in WHR favor I might be wrong ,but I thought I read that somewhere if this is not correct I'm sorry I must have got some bad information....
Yes,Reidsville did throw a pick six for 97 yds. Great pressure on QB and had practiced against the ole Seattle gift of a Superbowl to NE play. That's what the play was.
correct....instead of tying the game....WRH went up by 2 scores...and the Rams spent a lot of the game playing catch up....but hey that's part of the game.....it's football.....would the Rams have won if they would've tied it then instead of being down 2 scores??? Who knows....maybe.................
We didn’t gift it to them but it was a game we could have won. That’s how the ball bounces sometimes. If we are lucky maybe we get a bounce this year
No it wasn't a gift but it was a good game by both teams. I'm from West Craven but I went to see if WRH could win a 4th title in a row. It was certainly worth the drive to see that game. Earlier I was at Duke to see the Havelock - Charlotte Catholic game. Snowflakes as big as .50 pieces.
In last year's championship game, near the end, Reidsville got flagged for a late hit, out of bounds( in overtime I think but not sure) I'm thinking it was on 3rd down and long. Seems like it woulda been 4th and goal from about the 12 yd. line or so if not for the penalty. It gave WRH 1st and goal. It was a huge penalty as I remember. Possibly a different outcome if not for that imo. Someone may have a better recollection of it than me though. Mule? Rambbq?
well it didn't give them a first and goal but they would've had a 3rd and goal from about the 15 had it not been for the late hit out of bounds (and it was a late hit)...bonehead play but things like that happen when teams are fighting tooth and nail..................
Tarboro would not be in Eastern Final. When Tarboro dropped down a class a few years back I think they might have made it to 1 Eastern Final. Either WRH or JK eliminated them every single year. As soon as WRH and JK left 1AA Tarboro was able to make it to a State Championship
Yeah, it was definitely a late hit. It was a critical penalty for sure. 3rd and goal from the 15 or 1st and goal from the 3.
If the ball carrier was hit out of bounds the penalty is assessed after the play is over and I do not think it results in an automatic first down. 15 yards assessed from where the play ended (ball out of bounds point). Since the goal line was the first down would this not be half the distance to the goal line??? Get us a referee on here.
In HS the only automatic first downs are roughing penalties, passer, kicker, holder. You are correct, it is a dead ball penalty enforced from the end of the run.
it was not an automatic first down...WRH after the penalty on Reidsville for late hit got the ball at the 3 yd. line....3rd and goal....they then scored from about a half yard out on a 4th down play.................
Btw Wrh has one of the smallest 2a schools in the state and are on the verge of moving back down (I hope not) the dogs had 26 juniors this year look out next year.
It actually became tougher for tarboro when they moved DOWN. Don't forget that tarboro went to 4 straight 2A championship games very recently. Those teams mentioned were never the problem for them. It was WRH and James Kenan. If it became tougher for Tarboro now in 2A, it would be because those two teams are in 2A now. But I think this version of Tarboro could still handle any team in the east right now.
Yes JK and WRH both beat Tarboro in Tarboro in 3rd round in back to back years I believe
I’m curious about Tarboro’s schedule... I figure they need to play N.Edgecombe and SWEdgecombe since they are right there near them.
But of the other non-conference games:
Washington County (max preps 323)
Washington (max preps 246)
Northern Nash (max preps 219)
Plus N. Edgecombe (max preps 299) and SWE (max preps 97)
Is this a result of Tarboro’s success making it difficult for them to schedule challenging non-conference games? Back when Thomasville High was a 1A powerhouse, I remember them having to really struggle to beef up their non-conference. They played 4A schools like Davie County because many other schools wouldn’t play them.
But of the other non-conference games:
Washington County (max preps 323)
Washington (max preps 246)
Northern Nash (max preps 219)
Plus N. Edgecombe (max preps 299) and SWE (max preps 97)
Is this a result of Tarboro’s success making it difficult for them to schedule challenging non-conference games? Back when Thomasville High was a 1A powerhouse, I remember them having to really struggle to beef up their non-conference. They played 4A schools like Davie County because many other schools wouldn’t play them.
That’s a good point too. Tarboro is kind of close to Greenville, but that’s about it. Over an hour to Raleigh. It’d be hard to get a Raleigh school to commit to making that home/away agreement.
But the point is to win the state championship? I don't understand why everyone is clamoring for Tarboro to play a tougher non conference schedule to prove that they are really as good as advertised. They want to prove that they are the best team in 1A, not the entire state overall. I know I wouldn't be trying to schedule powerhouse 3A and 4A schools or what have you, just to flex our muscles if I was them. Getting unnecessary losses would only hurt their path come playoff time. Why jeopardize that and risk more road games? They want to be the best 1A team, which no matter what, will be proven once the playoffs start. No matter what their regular season schedule is, if they aren't the best 1A team, then they will be beaten in the playoffs. But to hurt their chances by scheduling "big boys" is foolish.
With that being said, they play Plymouth, which is now Washington County High School, regularly, and Plymouth/Washington County goes to the 1A championship almost annually. Washington High School, not to be mistaken with Washington County High School, is a few years removed from a state championship appearance. Not Tarboro's fault they fell off the last couple of years. The schedule was already made. They play Southern Nash and Rocky Mount occasionally, with wins. Contests against Kinston arent unheard of. Greenville Rose, with the coach they have now, is scared to play anybody. And nobody from Raleigh is coming this way with the multitude of choices they have in and around Wake County. So it's hard to say anything bad about their scheduling.
With that being said, they play Plymouth, which is now Washington County High School, regularly, and Plymouth/Washington County goes to the 1A championship almost annually. Washington High School, not to be mistaken with Washington County High School, is a few years removed from a state championship appearance. Not Tarboro's fault they fell off the last couple of years. The schedule was already made. They play Southern Nash and Rocky Mount occasionally, with wins. Contests against Kinston arent unheard of. Greenville Rose, with the coach they have now, is scared to play anybody. And nobody from Raleigh is coming this way with the multitude of choices they have in and around Wake County. So it's hard to say anything bad about their scheduling.
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thanks for clarifying that....I wondered what happened to Plymouth High school....now I know..................................
