People said the same thing about the bball program, and look at it now, give it a few years, nothing is done overnight, this is just the beginning. That extra year of playtime will loom large for some players.
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Franklin coach calls out Christ School
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Christ School beat Charlotte Latin 42-35 last year, so I think they might possibly be in Latin's stratosphere.
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Considering they’re an all star team comprised of players from across the country, with seniors the age of college freshman, I’d hope so.
Honestly, the new coaching staff at AHS is much of the problem at AHS football. I think there will be more to leave. Within 2 years the program has fallen to below mediocre from a regional powerhouse. The finesse offense, the loss of coaches that have relationships with the kids, and a coach who doesn’t push the talent that he has to college coaches is the problem. Danny Wilkins would have never let talent walk out the door without at least trying to remedy the situation.
You must not know the players who was at AHS before they went to other schools. I don’t think it’s the coaches. Same HC now been on staff since I can remember, I can tell you that it’s alot of athletes walking the halls not even trying out
There is a HC problem, you have to recruit your student body and develop relationships. This guy thinks he’s above that.
Asheville High has done an exceptionally bad job of grooming their future players from a young age from Asheville middle and even before in the youth leagues. Kids at franklin/pisgah/tuscola, even Erwin kids have played with each other since they were 9. Play middle school together. Play jv together. They all grow up together eager to play together at the varsity level.
There is no sense of a community in the Asheville Middle/High school/youth league and that’s why I think there is no loyalty to the ahs program or their fellow players around them. Plus I think numbers are down for football as it is anyway.
I think a lot of the guys now are soft and are their concern is looking good first, Facebook and posting photos.
Demographically Asheville high has the same players in 2018 as they did in 2003. It’s not like Asheville highs team is made up of 90 percent vegans anymore and we just don’t have the same type of guy walking down the halls anymore. Asheville high hasn’t grown in student population nor shrunk much in the last 20 years either. I think we wasted a lot of talent a decade plus ago and now we just don’t seem to have the talent we once had in that 5-7 year span nor the attitude that we used to. Kids play for themselves now, not for their coaches and teammates. Hence mediocre teams for 3 years in a row.
There is no sense of a community in the Asheville Middle/High school/youth league and that’s why I think there is no loyalty to the ahs program or their fellow players around them. Plus I think numbers are down for football as it is anyway.
I think a lot of the guys now are soft and are their concern is looking good first, Facebook and posting photos.
Demographically Asheville high has the same players in 2018 as they did in 2003. It’s not like Asheville highs team is made up of 90 percent vegans anymore and we just don’t have the same type of guy walking down the halls anymore. Asheville high hasn’t grown in student population nor shrunk much in the last 20 years either. I think we wasted a lot of talent a decade plus ago and now we just don’t seem to have the talent we once had in that 5-7 year span nor the attitude that we used to. Kids play for themselves now, not for their coaches and teammates. Hence mediocre teams for 3 years in a row.
These privates and charters are going hard after public school athletes and vice versa. For example, High Point Christian has made a living picking off high quality players from High Point Andrews and High point Central.
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Athletes returning to their home district school? No tuition, short distance from home. Do not really think that is a like comparison.
Much easier for them to have a nationally elite basketball program than football!
They made it to Franklin to find Shaun Bryson, they made it to Asheville to find Johnny White and Crezdon Butler, they made it to Bryson City to find Heath Shuler; Waynesville to find Jonathan Crompton and Tyler Brosius, they even made it all they way out to Murphy to locate Carl Pickens. I don't believe CS has an athlete on the current football team remotely close to that talent level.
West and Christ School are what, 10-12 miles apart? I think a college recruiter at any size school could figure out how to make it to both schools' practices.
the comparison here is recruiting/ leaving for more exposure - regardless of distance, etc.
I can tell you,here in Columbus county,Charter schools are killing our public schools,taking a lot of public school money. It's hurting bad,now I understand our Charter is going to grow to 12 grade,you know what that means,sports programs. Students come from all over ,it's not fair to public school athletic programs either. Wish you WC folks best.
Im late to the party but I just want to say screw Christ School and everything they stand for. NO team from WNC should ever set foot on the field with them again.
I agree. He also gives the impression that he is entitled to those kids attending Franklin. If the parents want to fork up the money or drive to Christ School then let them it's their choice.
No clue if they offer athletic scholarships, but if they do I believe it's within the rules of the NCISAA where they play. It's ultimately the kids choice, if they want to go there then they have the right to do so.
So many people want school choice in this country, well this is an example of school choice.
How you think I feel when you lose a D1 recruit to them. Mad that it’s happening to our program but can’t be mad if it’s what’s best for him.
Third highest winning percentage in last ten years in WNC and its a Head Coach problem??? Really!!!!
Ummm.... Asheville’s head coach has a 13-11 record in his 2 years as head coach. The other 8 years of that decade you cited was under a different coach.
Pretty sure 13-11 isn’t in the top 3 of winning percentage, apparently the Asheville fans know more about their program than your google of past seasons records revealed.
In the last decade, Christ school has played only 2 public schools from WNC: Hendersonville and Robbinsville. They are 1-1 vs Hendersonville and 2-1 vs Robbinsville in that decade (and they play Robbinsville again this year). They mostly play private schools from the Charlotte area, the Asheville School, and Rabun Gap-Nacochee (coached by former Franklin, U Tenn, and NFL player Shawn Bryson). Pretty sure they're not interested in loading up the schedule to stay in the mountains to play, so they won't be scheduling that many games around here anyway.
Not if you are young and getting recruited. And it’s not like he will be competing against public schools. Geez, stop the crying. Had he transferred to Charlotte Catholic, Gibbons, Bishop McGuinness, that’s one thing. But he went to a private Christian school like many kids do. I would have given anything for another year especially graduating at 17
It's really sad what happened to high school football across the country not just Christ School. It's even worse in basketball. If you look at the national rankings of top 25 teams in football I would say about 80% are from private schools. What happened to growing up in the community and playing with the kids that you grew up with. What happened to having pride in your school instead of just going to some boarding school with a bunch of preppy dbags. I don't buy the whole recruiting thing either. Hundreds of kids get recruited from public schools every year to play football. I guess if a kid really wants to go to Christ school that's fine but losing the whole experience of true high school football seems like enough of a deterrent for some I hope.
Many of those private school programs are loaded with players that attended that school's feeder elementary and middle schools before starting freshman year on campus. Some are football and athletic "factories" but not all. Charlotte Catholic is probably as "community based" if not more than about any school in the state.
Once again the biggest component of this is being missed, the ability to repeat a grade and play an extra season of high school football. This is not possible at the public schools and should not be. Without that I believe this is a mute point.
Kids would not be leaving AHS if the parents or the kid thought the coach had the players best interest at heart. He has been known to have said that it is not in his job description to be an agent for players. His players deserve more than that.
So the athlete is supposed to sit and watch his opportunity go bye because he needs to be worried about offending the coach? Good coaches take care of the kids. Happy athletes aren’t looking to transfer.
So the athlete is supposed to sit and watch his opportunity go bye because he needs to be worried about offending the coach? Good coaches take care of the kids. Happy athletes aren’t looking to transfer.
Real simple, If the school/coach doesn't look after the student athletes best interest, go somewhere that will. At the end of the day it's your responsibility to take care of YOUR kid. It's more than just playing at the local school (which can be ok) its putting the kid in the best possible place within our means.
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I agree with this. It shows that the athlete is more mature, developed and may be more college ready.
