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North Davidson guys ,,not call you out here but it seems you have a good path to the regional finals this year!! Gona let ledford beat out east, and you have already played your biggest competition, ledford,, maybe other than yourselves.
 
We need to take it one game at a time, that much is obvious. We lost a first round game back in the day to northwest cabarrus that still stings... They were far and away better than their seed but we had no business losing... It can happen anytime!

On the other hand I am very confident in our boys getting to at least the third round. Would love to meet the SWE people and tailgate a bit. If we were to beat them I would look forward to either ED or ledford, both would be a great regional.
 
You ever go see Dennis Anderson. Grave digger?? My wifes 2nd or 3rd cousin. I'm sure I'm some kin to him also a little further down the line.

Yes, Grave Digger is right down the road from my house. My wife's brother is CVH (Carl VanHorn), he is the driver for one of the Grave Diggers.They have more than one truck. Google him, he's pretty popular on the monster truck scene and even has his own fan club.
 
North Davidson guys ,,not call you out here but it seems you have a good path to the regional finals this year!! Gona let ledford beat out east, and you have already played your biggest competition, ledford,, maybe other than yourselves.
I just hope ND can find some offense. The defense is championship caliber, but the offense has really struggled to put together sustained drives against quality defenses.

Against the two conference champion caliber teams they have played (Mt Tabor and Ledford), they have basically had one scoring drive per game. One of the TDs against Tabor was a pick 6, and one was set up by special teams and gave North the ball inside the 5.

I saw Dalton was dressed against Ledford, but I doubt he is really in game shape after missing the whole season. That's a shame, because he showed the potential to be a real play-maker last year.

Gotta figure out how to manufacture some points somehow. Defense, special teams, etc.
 
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If you figure it out let me and NCHSAA know please...

The only time living in middle of state has bothered me was last four years when my son had to travel to different time zones just to play in playoff games.
Most people don’t like my answer, which is fine. But I still think the pod system, with all its faults, is better than the current system.
 
Yes, Grave Digger is right down the road from my house. My wife's brother is CVH (Carl VanHorn), he is the driver for one of the Grave Diggers.They have more than one truck. Google him, he's pretty popular on the monster truck scene and even has his own fan club.

I think I met him a couple of years ago at the Grave digger shop. Dennis in my opinion has made monster trucking what it is today.
 
We need to take it one game at a time, that much is obvious. We lost a first round game back in the day to northwest cabarrus that still stings... They were far and away better than their seed but we had no business losing... It can happen anytime!

On the other hand I am very confident in our boys getting to at least the third round. Would love to meet the SWE people and tailgate a bit. If we were to beat them I would look forward to either ED or ledford, both would be a great regional.

Glad to hear someone say this! Although I really like our chances at home in the first two rounds, I’m not willing to look past a game that will likely be played at SW Edgecombe. Remember, this is a North Davidson team that lost to a 3-8 Davie County (2-9 if Page didn’t have to forfeit their game).
 
Yep... We shot ourselves in the foot at Davie and did the same against ledford. This team beats itself as much as any team it plays... It's time for a cure-all! Get me the elixir!
 
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I would love to see a Ledford/N Davidson rematch. However, I'm not sold that if both Ledford/E Duplin gets by their first opponents (which they should), that Ledford beats ED...
 
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The thing about that is ED is obviously not as imposing as last year. With that said, ledford has always had trouble with speed. That would be the key.
 
Most people don’t like my answer, which is fine. But I still think the pod system, with all its faults, is better than the current system.
I didn't mind it when 1A & 1AA used it a few years ago to avoid extreme travel, such as from East Columbus or West Columbus or South Robeson to Avery Co. or Robbinsville, but I really despise how the pods so often turned into a conference game rematch festival in many of the pods....Back in the day of only 32 teams per classification making the playoffs (instead of the 64 with subdivisions, and 48 now in 1A & 4A), they would re-seed the bracket if needed to prevent conference opponents from playing each other in the 1st Rd...and remember this was also a time when many conferences only had 2, sometimes 3 playoff berths...so if a league champion seeded at 3 out of 16 was bracketed to play its 3rd place finisher who would have been at 14, they would flip flop either 3 with 2 or 4, or 14 with 13 or 15, depending on how it shook out; that is if there were 3 teams all at 10 wins that were going in seeds 1,2,3 out of 16 in the bracket, and that other team clearly fit into the 14 seed, they would make sure their conf. opponent would be 1 or 2, not 3....also when possible they'd avoid 2nd Rd matchups between conf. opponents I think but that's tougher
 
I didn't mind it when 1A & 1AA used it a few years ago to avoid extreme travel, such as from East Columbus or West Columbus or South Robeson to Avery Co. or Robbinsville, but I really despise how the pods so often turned into a conference game rematch festival in many of the pods....Back in the day of only 32 teams per classification making the playoffs (instead of the 64 with subdivisions, and 48 now in 1A & 4A), they would re-seed the bracket if needed to prevent conference opponents from playing each other in the 1st Rd...and remember this was also a time when many conferences only had 2, sometimes 3 playoff berths...so if a league champion seeded at 3 out of 16 was bracketed to play its 3rd place finisher who would have been at 14, they would flip flop either 3 with 2 or 4, or 14 with 13 or 15, depending on how it shook out; that is if there were 3 teams all at 10 wins that were going in seeds 1,2,3 out of 16 in the bracket, and that other team clearly fit into the 14 seed, they would make sure their conf. opponent would be 1 or 2, not 3....also when possible they'd avoid 2nd Rd matchups between conf. opponents I think but that's tougher
Have heard that many times about pods causing conference rematches...

As I pointed out in another thread orange/blue team from Randolph county could possibly play a PAC7 opponent in round 2 as well as round 3...

And that's using the super secret NCHSAA/Maxpreps recipe!
 
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Have heard that many times about pods causing conference rematches...

As I pointed out in another thread orange/blue team from Randolph county could possibly play a PAC7 opponent in round 2 as well as round 3...

And that's using the super secret NCHSAA/Maxpreps recipe!
Of course the maxpreps thing has nothing to do with attempting to create or avoid conference games in the playoffs....that came out of attempting to seed the teams more appropriately than just going by overall record or winning percentage.......which probably had more pros than cons....but then they took margin of victory out of the equation, so it's A LOT tougher for a computer ranking to get it right
 
If a Ledford
I think Ledford is going to have the same problem as ND, scoring points against quality defenses.

If Ledford faces East Duplin in round 2, I like the Panthers chances of moving on, the East Duplin Panthers. ED runs that wing-t that NOBODY gets to see up here in the triad area. A very hard offense to stop when you never play against it. Yes, Ledford has a VERY strong defense, but what happens to that defense when a wing-t offense keeps pounding and pounding and pounding on that defensive line. We all know Ledford has NO offense what-so-ever and they run the ball 95% of the time. If Ledford and ED meet in round 2 that game will probably only last an hour and a half:p.

As for North's offense, I would love to see them do a little more "Ground and Pound". They definitely have the beef up front to do it, but will they? Probably not, they will continue with the east/west passing game most likely.
 
A very hard offense to stop when you never play against it.
The Wing T, when run right, says, "We're going to line up and run the ball, and there's nothing you can do about it"....With that said, some great, great defensive teams, who trust their corners to play man to man, (and the LBs & Safeties to stay with the RBs & TEs) can get in Cover 0 and stack the box and keep you from being effective, so it still helps to be able to pass...not 20 times a game, but just enough to keep you out of Cover 0 and stacking the box on every play....that was the difference in 2001 for Wallace-Rose Hill in Regional Finals vs. State Finals.....That Gates Co. team that traveled to WRH had two RBs with 2000 yds in a Wing T, not to mention however many rushing yards the QB and Wingback picked up, OL was rolling through the playoffs, dominated Pamlico, Louisburg, and North Brunswick in first 3 rounds, but passing?? I could be wrong, but think the QB might have had more interceptions than complete passes for the season; I only caught 4 games that year, and 3 of them were losses....But for the 4th Rd, I made the trip from UNC to Legion Stadium in Wallace and saw my high school, trying to put up a good fight for a half, trailing at the break either 21-14 or 28-14, but for pretty much the whole game, the WRH defense put both safeties in the box and only allowed one scoring drive before garbage time (other early TD for Barons came on a kickoff return), in a 42-24 win for WRH....a week later against TA McClendon's Albemarle team, I didn't see it (had an English final exam so I wasn't able to cross the street to Kenan Stadium), but heard from one of the officials in attendance that TA was not tackled to the ground the entire game (every carry, either he scored a TD, was pushed out of bounds, or they blew the whistle with forward progress stopped), and he finished with a line of something like 270 yds and 7 TDs in a 66-28 win.....the Blue Dogs were definitely a run-first team, with TA and Ren Brooks but they could throw it effectively enough with QB Jordan Morgan to keep the defense honest and not sell out to stuff the run, the way WRH had done the week before and it worked
 
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The problem not facing a wing T or full house a lot is for a lot of defenses they don’t realize that they are allowing themselves to be beat until halftime because they are only giving up 2,3,4 yards a play and it s a bad feeling to finally realize you’re not “almost stopping them” or your” limiting big plays “ you are actually getting beat and all you want is one more possession so you can have a chance but those chains barely keep moving
Speaking from experience it hurts bad when you finally become aware that you didn’t do anything to change their game plan
 
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Yep... We shot ourselves in the foot at Davie and did the same against ledford. This team beats itself as much as any team it plays... It's time for a cure-all! Get me the elixir!
Anyone who wasn't at the Davie game to see what transpired cant really speak to it.Time after time we extended their drives with penalties many after the whistle. Two of their scoring drives should have been 3 and out.
 
Anyone who wasn't at the Davie game to see what transpired cant really speak to it.Time after time we extended their drives with penalties many after the whistle. Two of their scoring drives should have been 3 and out.

Davie's last drive (the winning drive) was aided by, at least 4 maybe 5 penalties when North had them stopped on 3rd down. It was unreal.
 
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Know that feeling...seen it many times over the years watching high schhol, college, and pro football
I've been watching football at every level for over 40 years and have never seen anything to this degree. You may think you've scene something comparable many times but I would seriously doubt it!
 
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I've been watching football at every level for over 40 years and have never seen anything to this degree. You may think you've scene something comparable many times but I would seriously doubt it!
Ok.....How about a team trailing 30-28, with the ball, less than a minute to play, no timeouts, inside their own 30 yard line.....they do not have a positive running play, do not complete a pass....yet win the game 31-30.....How did it happen? (and No, they did not kick a 90 yard field goal)
 
Ok.....How about a team trailing 30-28, with the ball, less than a minute to play, no timeouts, inside their own 30 yard line.....they do not have a positive running play, do not complete a pass....yet win the game 31-30.....How did it happen? (and No, they did not kick a 90 yard field goal)
That is certainly a rare sequence and I've seen those also, but this was basically the whole game this happened. I'm not blaming the refs for we definitely deserved some of the flags but it happened over and over again. That's the point we are making. I didn't mean it in a bad way toward you as I think your one of the best folks on the boards.
 
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Ok.....How about a team trailing 30-28, with the ball, less than a minute to play, no timeouts, inside their own 30 yard line.....they do not have a positive running play, do not complete a pass....yet win the game 31-30.....How did it happen? (and No, they did not kick a 90 yard field goal)
Here’s one guess, with no penalties. Team A throws a pass, which is intercepted by Team B. Team B fumbles the ball,which is recovered and returned to makeable field goal distance. Kicks it and wins the game.
Or more likely in high school, defensive player gets a personal foul penalty and coaches and/or players lose their cool and march it down the field on unsportsmanlike conduct flags.
Am I close?
 
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Here’s one guess, with no penalties. Team A throws a pass, which is intercepted by Team B. Team B fumbles the ball,which is recovered and returned to makeable field goal distance. Kicks it and wins the game.
Or more likely in high school, defensive player gets a personal foul penalty and coaches and/or players lose their cool and march it down the field on unsportsmanlike conduct flags.
Am I close?
Definitely very close, starting with Team B intercepting ball, then fumbling; I forget if it was 20 or 30 yards or more downfield.....the fumble was a split second after possessing the football too....not like he was running around and ignoring advice to fall down; he didn't time to think before a Team A WR hit him to force a fumble.....but no unsportsmanlike or personal foul penalties....instead it was back to back pass interference penalties for 15 yards each...into medium FG range...this was the story how Gates Co. came up short @ Roanoke (now called South Creek), first Friday in October I believe, 2002...16 years later and I still can't believe how that one ended
 
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Definitely very close, starting with Team B intercepting ball, then fumbling; I forget if it was 20 or 30 yards or more downfield.....the fumble was a split second after possessing the football too....not like he was running around and ignoring advice to fall down; he didn't time to think before a Team A WR hit him to force a fumble.....but no unsportsmanlike or personal foul penalties....instead it was back to back (somewhat questionable) pass interference penalties for 15 yards each...into medium FG range and the lineman, maybe kicking straight on, JUST got it over the crossbar, and JUST inside the upright....this was the story of Gates Co. @ Roanoke (now called South Creek), first Friday in October I believe, 2002
You just described what I love about high school football...though it can be frustrating as well. The swing of emotions that go along with what is truly a “game of inches”. How one or two critical, sometimes seemingly random, plays can turn a loss into a win, or vice versa. The turnover, the crucial penalty, the bad snap or the Hail Mary that separate champions from runners up.
As high school football fans, we should keep in mind how close the end result often is. That oblong ball takes funny bounces that can make for jubilation or a long ride home.
Ain’t it grand!
 
First Flight out of school today due to weather/overwash

Wow!

Do you know if they are headed westward today, or if they’re waiting for tomorrow? I’ve heard both.

It’s going to be a nasty night for a football game. Wet field, cold and damp weather.
 
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