Of course they don't see that...SWO from what you can tell has some fair weather fans. If you beat them it's never hey we just got beat it's always something. They are not a bad team and they will be fine. They just can't stomach that Jacksonville beat them by 41-0 at home. If were any other team they would be on here complaining of course but they would not be trying to discredit the other team by calling them average or claiming that they are not very good. Notice how they had to go and jump to what Havelock or New Bern is going to do against us. Remember that Northside team who according to them is the real deal and will beat Jacksonville by 30 got beat by White Oak and it should have been worst then what it was. White dropped two TDs. So we will see next week...as always I never predict scores for my team or I have never said they are going to win what I do say is that theyb will get off the bus and play hard against whomever they play.
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If you have more students to choose from that I will say without hesitation that you start with an advantage. In the case of Jacksonville high school they base weather they are a top notch 3a program from beating on 2a squads. Of course SWO has beaten many higher classification teams in there history and that is a good barometer to measure how good they will be in there lower classification. There is situations like beating 4a Ashley which means nothing. Any team that beats WRH no matter classification is special because they return close to everyone on a state championship squad they are just special period.
Lol...you my friend are funny. Read what you just said....Anyways it's ok I guess we will see next week. We will all get some answers to some questions. So last week Northside was the beat team around since they scored a couple of TD against New Bern...they werw the team to beat and were no s@$! Legit. So they go get beat by White Oak last night. Which was worst then the one point better you saw on the scoreboard. I swear White was trying to give them the game yet they still beat them.....I know no matter what some of you SWO faithful no matter what we do will try and downplay us no matter what. If we would go and win a title it would be because all of 3a in the state is weak or the refs it would be something. So it's ok we get it. Lol You want to keep playing the numbers game and your bigger your supposed to win.
Jacksonville has White Oak next week right? I think they do. Beat O'leary and his 3a squad and then I can say again you have a solid squad. On a lighter note O'leary and his triple option is dangerous. I was really banking on that being a W for my stallions.
My bad it's Northside for you guys next week. Diregard it has been awhile since I had a beer. Lol
SWE'98 no I do not think the "Quality" is lower by any means. This is what I think, if you have 100 boys to choose from 9-12 grade (Jacksonville) and Southwest has 50 players to choose from 9-12 grade. Jacksonville has an advantage in numbers from the start. Think about this SWO is forced to use 9th and 10th graders just to make a Varsity squad, where as Jacksonville still can pick and choose the best 9th and 10th graders to pull up not forced to. SWO and most 2a schools and lower are forced to play over half there team both ways. Jacksonville I am sure have some special guys they want on the field full time but are not forced to.
There are always example of a smaller school just having the best 11 players. This year that team would be WRH. There is example of larger 4a school that just have an awful football team perfect example is 4a Ashley.
The numbers are not exact, but the fact still remains 90 percent of the time the larger school is going to win. There is a reason behind that!
There are always example of a smaller school just having the best 11 players. This year that team would be WRH. There is example of larger 4a school that just have an awful football team perfect example is 4a Ashley.
The numbers are not exact, but the fact still remains 90 percent of the time the larger school is going to win. There is a reason behind that!
I agree with you, and that's why we have classifications. Some schools have a larger talent pool to choose from. That doesn't mean that those extra guys are any better. But the difference between 2 and 3A usually isn't that big and victories between the two are usually interchangeable. You were making it seem as if 3A should be miles and miles better than 2A.
Thank you SWE...they all know what you are saying is the truth. What you have to understand is that some SWO fans not all make all kinds of excuses if theor team loses. It will never be that hey we get beat by a better team. They especially can't stand the fact that they get beat by Jacksonville.
Finally a voice of reason. No matter what you say to some SWO fans they will always have a excuse if they get beat. Especially if its Jacksonville which in the past 4 years its been 3 times. A team comes in ans beats you 41-0 at home...oh they suck and are not that good. Come on now. Stop the madness about....oh we are down this year. Go back and read the post last season about how we are young and next year we will be good. Remember two years ago went to the championship game with a sophomore offensive line. Hey they are all seniors now. So whats the deal? See here is what they don't talk about on here. Something more goes on over there with some of those kids. It's about just do what we have to do to win don't worry about grades dont worry if you get into trouble as long as we win we ate good. Tell all these great athletes playing in title games in the last four years how many went to college? How many times they have had their star players suspended at still play on Friday nights? Stop that crap about transferring to concentrate on basketball. Try got kicked out of school they finally got fed up. My wife's best friend teaches there. Coach Barnes did not play that nonsense and that kid was kicked off the basketball team there. Came out for football at Jacksonville and was sent packing the first time that bad attitude came out. Did not want to put the work in that the other kids were doing so that won't work over here. Coaches care more about teaching life lessons besides what you going to do for me on Friday nights. My son is only 6 and as long as a coach by the name of Williams is coaching there is only one school in Onslow County that he will play for because I know the coaches care more about teaching life lessons then what he can do on Friday nights. Yes football will get taught and you will be expected to perform...however the other things such as your grades which is the most important get suspended at Jacksonville for anything and your season is over no matter who you are. A couple of kids have found out the hard way. I had the pleasure of meeting Mr Taylor. There is a parent who gets it...made his son stay in those books just as hard as he did with his preperation for football. Stanford don't show interest in knuckle heads. Get more parents like that and you see more of these superior athletes that they all brag about going places. So tired of these clowns getting on here trying to discredit others when they need to fix that mess over there.
Who did we discredit? Yes there where a large amount of football players who did not make the grades and that is why they are not on the team. The KID you are referring to is a KID and they make mistakes, so he is no longer on our team and that was his choice.
Here is the ugly truth about winning programs. THERE ARE A LOT OF 2ND CHANCES THAT HAPPEN! Without the structure of organized sports and the rules of grades and class attendance some would never graduate, and Phil Padgett was a master of holding the game and being apart of a winning program over these kids heads. So implying we had to cheat or do something under handed to win you are wrong. The staff used football to actually help these kids in all aspects of life.
Your Jacksonville coach did not want a kid on his team and that is his right, but on the flipside it shows he did not care enough to even try. As you said, as soon as the attitude showed he kicked him off (you're words not mine).
There are knuckle head boys 14-18 yrs old all over the country. Throwing them to the side and pretending we did the right thing is not the answer. Mr Taylor and his son are good people in my opinion and it shows and they have been rewarded with a D 1 scolly. For many getting through high school is hard. There are kids who go home with no food to eat. There are kids who have a parent with addiction issues. If the game of football keeps these kids focused for 2hrs of practice and learning team work and putting in hard work I would say let them all play.
Here is the ugly truth about winning programs. THERE ARE A LOT OF 2ND CHANCES THAT HAPPEN! Without the structure of organized sports and the rules of grades and class attendance some would never graduate, and Phil Padgett was a master of holding the game and being apart of a winning program over these kids heads. So implying we had to cheat or do something under handed to win you are wrong. The staff used football to actually help these kids in all aspects of life.
Your Jacksonville coach did not want a kid on his team and that is his right, but on the flipside it shows he did not care enough to even try. As you said, as soon as the attitude showed he kicked him off (you're words not mine).
There are knuckle head boys 14-18 yrs old all over the country. Throwing them to the side and pretending we did the right thing is not the answer. Mr Taylor and his son are good people in my opinion and it shows and they have been rewarded with a D 1 scolly. For many getting through high school is hard. There are kids who go home with no food to eat. There are kids who have a parent with addiction issues. If the game of football keeps these kids focused for 2hrs of practice and learning team work and putting in hard work I would say let them all play.
I see struck a nerve. Was given the opportunity to do the right thing on more then one occasion. If you dont do what your supposed to do then there are consequences. Who said you cheated? Again read what was said. What I said if you were at Jacksonville high school and you get suspended from school mutiple times your not playing on Friday. Please tell me this did not happen. The KID can make mistakes we all understand that. But kids are going to do what they are allowed to do. So you can get on here and try to flip it however you want. You see sameole when it comes from some your own teachers at your school are they lying? So you can continue to try and turn this into whatever you like . Don't really care..hell when it even comes from some of your own kids parents. You can say whatever you like my friend.
So as long as we agree we did nothing wrong I am good. Maybe that is why you have an average 3a team. Lol (just playing).
Never said you guys cheated...All I am saying when my son gets ready to play high school football it will definitely be at that average 3a school...where I know he is going to learn more then just football. Your boys cs n sit in those woods out there in SWO after high school and talk about man how we won all these games. Our boys will continue to talk about how we were a average 3a school while setting in someone's college classroom. Lol...you can keep your ring in your trophy case we like to display degrees on the walls. Soon we will have both.
The way this season is going at Southwest the degrees should be showing up soon. See you at the Northside Jacksonville game Friday I think this thread is dead.
All I can say is clinton is the real deal.....didn't get to see my boys play jville..... But as far as my STALLIONS they'll only get stronger!!!!!
