2a Realignment

[Godevilsgo]

Sasha I think if you look state wide those number will look much different. Poor performing schools get much worse when new charters pop up. But let me be clear. It has to do with poverty and race. Basically the state legislators have been talking out both sides of their mouth. Cut teachers and teacher aids but allow the money from current schools to be funneled into charter schools. Seems odd.

Nor do I think charter schools are currently better than publics because they don't have upper level classes at most schools until they reach an enrollment of around 500 for high school age students. They simple don't have the resources until the numbers justify it.

New magnet schools are popping up as well. Some have good intentions but it usually is a means to funnel kids whose parents are disgruntled with a school into better environments. So really aren't we just running from issues instead of forcing improvements to the current schools.

 

[sasha_nc]

Sasha I think if you look state wide those number will look much different. Poor performing schools get much worse when new charters pop up. But let me be clear. It has to do with poverty and race. Basically the state legislators have been talking out both sides of their mouth. Cut teachers and teacher aids but allow the money from current schools to be funneled into charter schools. Seems odd.

Nor do I think charter schools are currently better than publics because they don't have upper level classes at most schools until they reach an enrollment of around 500 for high school age students. They simple don't have the resources until the numbers justify it.

New magnet schools are popping up as well. Some have good intentions but it usually is a means to funnel kids whose parents are disgruntled with a school into better environments. So really aren't we just running from issues instead of forcing improvements to the current schools.

Perhaps the charters aren't better but if the parents perceive any improvement in their child's grades/interest, especially in the lower grades, they will stick with it. As for running from issues, some parents may have given up on all the 'improvements' the school systems (or state) have decided to implement and then dump after two years because it is not giving them the numbers/results they want. The parents get frustrated because they can't help their kid when they are struggling with the homework. About the time they have figured out the program for the next child, they are back at square one because that child has to be taught a different way. They are tired of their kids are being jerked around as well as themselves.

However, not all of this is the school systems' fault; some parents are parents only biologically. Their children suffer from their parents' addictions to alcohol, drugs, and rotating mommies and daddies in their lives. No improvement in schools or parents leaving their kids in public schools will change those factors.

 

[ocdavis31]

The best way for parents to be able to help with their kids' homework is to insist that the legislature provide money for textbooks, or at the very least, provide the textbook online in an easy to access format. Ask your school how much money they got for textbooks this year.

Back to the original topic, Thomasville AD Steve Bare has written a letter to the association protesting the most recent realignment proposal, and has received calls of support from several CCC A.D.'s. Guess we'll see in May, 2016. But if they stick with this one, the state has cost a financially challenged system a whole lot of money.

 

[thachsn1]

How would Reidsville even schedule a full slate of football games. I didn't think those two math and science schools have football teams and no guarantee Carrboro will have a football team by the time they play Reidsville each year.

Yea I hope that's not the conf Reidville is put in. No those two schools do not field football teams and let's not talk about Carrboro. It would only be 4 conf games. Only good is that's 7 non conf if we could fill the schedule may get to play some teams we haven't played in a while if ever.

 

[bralpa]

Shelby and South Point in the same conference is interesting, but with only 6 teams in the proposed conference, the teams would be forced to schedule 6 OOC games to get to 11. In Shelby's current conference they only play 3 OOC games, with one of those South Point.

Most likely Shelby would play KM, Crest, and Burns as 3 of the OOC games....I would love to add a Lincolnton, EL, or Newton-Conover to the mix...others we have played in the past include Freedom, AC Reynolds, Polk Co, Brevard, etc.

 

[Godevilsgo]

Yea I hope that's not the conf Reidville is put in. No those two schools do not field football teams and let's not talk about Carrboro. It would only be 4 conf games. Only good is that's 7 non conf if we could fill the schedule may get to play some teams we haven't played in a while if ever.

That would be a horrible scenerio for Reidsville. I wouldn't think this proposed conference would be the final draft. Not only is it not competitive but results in a conflict every year of whether a school will have a team. Teams that state they will field a team should make a big effort to play even if it means losing by 100 points. If they don't they should be cutting $10,000 checks to schools. Even youth leagues have large penalties for losses of gate money.

 

[BlueVols]

This>>>>>>> Easier for the legislature to turn education over to those who can make a profit from it.

Charter schools don't have a thing to do with race or budgets or "learnin'". It has to do with the all mighty dollar that the corporate education for pay model folks pad their friends in the legislature's pockets with to expand and grow their business.

I am as conservative as they come but this bunch.....sheesh.

Rule 1: FOLLOW THE MONEY.

 

[Weststanly1]

How bout the new look of the proposed Rocky River Conference, Anson County, Forest Hills, West Stanly, Mt Pleasant, East Montgomery, Central Academy. Anson coming from 3A an East Montgomery moving out of long time home The Yadkin Valley 1A this might be pretty evenly matched a cross the board more so than its been in a long while let's hope this is the conference proposal that they go for

 

[new_dawg]

How bout the new look of the proposed Rocky River Conference, Anson County, Forest Hills, West Stanly, Mt Pleasant, East Montgomery, Central Academy. Anson coming from 3A an East Montgomery moving out of long time home The Yadkin Valley 1A this might be pretty evenly matched a cross the board more so than its been in a long while let's hope this is the conference proposal that they go for

I think East Montgomery may push to move into a conference with 2A schools in the Asheboro area. Travel for EM to West Stanly, Anson County, and Mt. Pleasant is not too bad, but CATA and Forest Hills are a heck of a haul. I can see it being really tough on them in the non-revenue sports.

 

[bigtime_87]

I think East Montgomery may push to move into a conference with 2A schools in the Asheboro area. Travel for EM to West Stanly, Anson County, and Mt. Pleasant is not too bad, but CATA and Forest Hills are a heck of a haul. I can see it being really tough on them in the non-revenue sports.

East Mont is used to the travel with teams in that old YVC conference spread all over the map from Davidson, Chatham, Union, Montgomery, Stanly and Moore counties. Hard on the school athletic budget when your gas bill is larger than the money supplied from the county. They start the year out in the red before the first game is played.

As far as the Thomasville situation, they need to put Salisbury and South Rowan in the Rocky River and make a space for Thomasville in the CCC. The Bulldogs are 6 miles from Ledford and East Davidson, and within 20-25 minutes of the other schools in that league. They have been in the CCC since the 80's so it makes no sense financially and for natural rivalry. The county schools may be all for it because they won't have to play the Dogs on Friday nights anymore.

 

[Darkhorse#34]

Saw a proposed conference in the paper
Clinton
East Duplin
James Kenen
Wallace Rose-Hill
East Bladen
West Bladen
Midway
Spring Creek

.......that's the freaking SEC of 2A football lol......whoever comes in 5th place in this conference would probably be just as good as the conf champ in most conferences.......looks similar to the old ECC from the 90s

 

[BlackKnightNut]

How in the world are you gonna put South Rowan in the CCC and not Thomasville? Makes no sense to me...

 

[Delendo]

Saw a proposed conference in the paper
Clinton
East Duplin
James Kenen
Wallace Rose-Hill
East Bladen
West Bladen
Midway
Spring Creek

.......that's the freaking SEC of 2A football lol......whoever comes in 5th place in this conference would probably be just as good as the conf champ in most conferences.......looks similar to the old ECC from the 90s

Here is something to think about... Most of the time the 5th place team in that league will have 4 loses. That means that the best record they could have is 6-4 for playoff seeding purposes. Usually that is good enough to make it as a wild card wih the current 25/25/25/25 model. With us going 20/30/30/20 there will be more teams in 2a and more conferences with the top 3, 2 if in a split league, getting automatic births into the state playoffs. I am am willing to bet some 6-4 teams will miss the playoffs. Can you imagine any of these teams missing the playoffs when most of them are 2nd rd minimum in most years.

Very possible you will have 5-5 teams or even 4-6 teams make the playoffs but 6-4 does not. Not a good system. We need a power ranking system for the playoffs like most states use.

 

[swett2victory]

I would like the state to bring back cursive writing.

 

[ocdavis31]

How in the world are you gonna put South Rowan in the CCC and not Thomasville? Makes no sense to me...

Thomasville will exercise all of their appeal options, but I suspect it won't matter. The next four years will be a tremendous financial challenge for an already strapped school district.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

Thomasville will exercise all of their appeal options, but I suspect it won't matter. The next four years will be a tremendous financial challenge for an already strapped school district.

OC, I just don't see how they can justify that. It'd be one thing if T-ville wasn't a historical CCC member, but I was really looking forward to an all-Davidson conference, with maybe Salisbury included. But I guess they're gonna do what they want, regardless of how much sense it makes. I wish Thomasville luck no matter what, and hope that the program gets back to where it used to be. I grew up a Black Knight and played for them, but I always enjoyed watching the Brown's teams because I was so impressed with their line play and defense, so I've always been somewhat of a Bulldog fan when they weren't playing us.

 

[ocdavis31]

Thanks for that, BlackKnightNut. Two historically good programs for sure.
I suspect that Thomasville's placement has everything to do with trying to balance the numbers among conferences. I understand there will be support from some of the other CCC schools for the appeal, but I have zero faith in the NCHSAA. This will hurt all of the schools in the CCC, especially East, Ledford, Lexington and North. There was a reason that the WNCHSAA was created many years ago and some of those reasons exist today. The state group is arrogant and way too political. It has become a cash cow set up to profit from its membership rather than serve them as it was intended.
Coach Brown never kowtowed to that crowd. I hope that vindictiveness has nothing to do with their stubbornness on this issue. But a little bit of payback wouldn't surprise me either.

 

[Burkeforreal]

Conference F

Bunker Hill
Draughn
East Burke
Fred T. Foard
Hibriten
Newton-Conover
Patton
West Iredell

Very weak conference for football. Hibriten will be the cream of the conference. I absolutely don't like it at all with the exception that FTF and N-C are top state wrestling programs across all classifications going head to head finally.

Hey, all these schools are close to each other. I love it lol. Very competitive with a mix of conference finishes from all the schools.

As for football- yes Hibriten would be strong but let's not count East Burke out. Not sure how EB will do from here on out with losing a lot of talent an coach Brown not getting any younger can't see them doing super.

Basketball it could go in all sorts of directions. Track- West Iredell rocks the place along with Hibriten. Baseball, have no idea. This is a good conference with limited driving time

 

[Godevilsgo]

Mute point now Burkeforreal. New second proposal is different. East Burke to West Iredell spans three counties. That's a long drive for sports other than football. Football is a weekend once a year trip.

 

[Champ_24]

45 min drive an issue?

 

[Burkeforreal]

I wouldn't even count out West Iredell in the future as far as football. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they ran the tables a few years from now or so. This school is always loaded with speed an athletes an bout 10, 11 years ago was actually state ranked. I could be wrong but programs have been known to rise, fall dramatically then slowly rise again.

An just to stick to the thread of the post, they're really not as far down the road from a lot of Schools either. Sure beats Crest going to Watauga in the old NW4a an vice versa.

 

[Champ_24]

West Iredell will be very good in 2017. 2016 could be a struggle. But 2017 they're going to be on the up and up. Remember that prediction