Did Hough ever beat Creek while Coach P was there? I would consider that a signature win if they accomplished that. I believe they are 0-3 or something like that against Butler all time, 1st match up being in 2015 vs that Osborne kid that went to Tennessee. They did beat Indy in the playoffs in 2014 when Indy was undefeated and Coach Evans had them ROLLING.
Hough is way down IMHO. Dutch Fork will beat them 10+ points. Agree with you on Weddington. Weddington may blow Dutch Fork out. Rght now MC, Weddington, and Grimsley are a step above everyone.
Beat them regular season in 2015 . Osborne ran by Creek sideline and taunted Palmieri. They rolled them in the playoffs 5-6 weeks later like 44-10 or something
I would put Weddington and Grimsley in the same tier and slightly above MC. It’s really just because of the offense. If they had a better offense I would pick them to win it all easily. It doesn’t even have to be great but just better than it is. You can only get into so many dog fights or relying on the defense to get turnovers before eventually coming up short. The offense has to come through at some point in those big games.
At this point, concentrating on your program rather than criticizing DF for a signature win is the greatest thing you can do. For a power team, you guys haven't demonstrated your status as a program with championship potential in a while. The Buford game should have been your most memorable victory, but the result is already well known.
Criticizing DF?? Think you might want to re-read my man.
I didn’t say they didn’t have pieces on the team to potentially make it work on the offensive side of the ball. It also wasn’t just Buford that the offense has struggled against. Half the points against Indy came from defense. The point I was really trying to make is that @bigdadd11103 opinions on Creek and Hough comes from a biased perspective. There’s not some gap that would put the two in different tiers right now. Until either one puts together consistent offense they’re practically in the same tier in regards to 4A. That’s the only point I was trying to make.
I never disagreed with anything you said outside of defense. I just made people aware, they have some guys on offense. Lot of potential there. Regarding defenses. I don't believe Hough has one, and they're offense line is struggling big time, and they'll be switching QB's soon IMO. Chapman held Byrnes to 14 points, they're no world beaters.
I agreed with everything you said until you said they don’t have a defense. Watch the Byrnes game play for play! Both teams were shutting one another down. Byrnes wasn’t having much success offensively on the last drive they scored on. Hough was shutting them down and then got caught with a screen that went to the house. Another score came from a tipped pass that Byrnes returned. Out of all of the plays Byrnes ran on offense majority of the time they barely had any success. Two plays made the score look lopsided. I just feel like a few of you all personally don’t like Hough and are quick to want to discredit them in some type of way. I could careless if they win or lose but I like to talk ball without being biased.
There is absolutely no one who dislikes Hough more than me, and I wear it with a badge of honor 😀 I feel that I'm fair when it comes to evaluating. The Byrnes team is not the Brynes of past years. They haven't' been relevant since 2020, They're not a team that i would evaluate my offense against. Our offense sucked last year, and I told everyone who would listen. I believe I'm an honest homer when it comes to evaluating. LOL!
If I'm wrong, I can assure you the Shelby Idiots and the guy with numerous accounts will be copying and pasting my every word. 😀 They dislike me so much, they're going to start cheering for Hough. LMAO!
No bias against Hough at all. Just call it like it is. Hough has been great offensively and defensively past few years. One of the most dynamic and talented offenses we have seen in that timeframe. Coach Jenkins stepping down is a big loss for them. Sans rematches with Chambers/MC Hough may have 2-3 tiltes since being built which would be impressive. Neutral on Hough on field. Off field they get away with a lot of stuff urban charlotte schools get slammed for. Hough having offensive issues vs. Byrnes and MP is cause for alarm.
I can say Hough not being able to have any success on offense against MP did raise some concern for me. Playing like that is why I say why not just play the freshman that’s your future. I man you know what you’re getting from the junior and it isn’t going to be what you ultimately want at the end of the season. I always said the large numbers of transfers they get every year ended up being the reason they never could get over the hump.
honest question..if that’s the case, how does Grimsley do it? They seem to be just fine with transfers. A bigger discussion needs to be had about how unfair it is for open enrollment in some counties while other counties don’t have it.
There’s a difference, the main core of Grimsley’s team has been together every year of hs. They may add a transfer here and there like this off season that start or play but the others are on the sideline. There’s still a good level of continuity within that team. Majority of their senior class was undefeated on jv together. I believe Hough is built around transfers and it comes back to bite them in crunch time moments, along with coaching of course. There’s not open enrollment for Grimsley they’re just using the same loop holes right now as most good programs but doing it at a higher level. forsyth county that’s a different situation because they do have open enrollment.
Think Hough making a QB change is premature. If transfers are not handled properly you will get what Hough has now. A good QB that waited his turn, and a potential future QB that will no doubt take some lumps. Once you go with a freshman its really no turning back because the Jr,. will most likely leave and if anyone else comes in then the freshman is gone.
Hard to live with myself but somehow I fight through it.
