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Where has school pride gone ??? Transfers

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I grew up in a era where school and community pride mattered !! They were no way a kid would transfer to his rival team or to a inconference team just to be on a winning team or to get a ring. Many kids go to winning programs thinking they will have a chance to be recruited better by playing on a state championship caliber team. If you actually look at the end of their High School career it hasn't helped them at all because very few actually move on to the next level. Don't get me wrong, they were transfers back in the day but very very few. Back then kids had rather be on a losing team and finishing school with their lifetime friends than to transfer to a winning program. It was school pride and childhood friendships that held their loyalty. So what good is it going to a school to set on the bench just to say they went to state. Is this coming from today's parents or are they really a little recruiting going on ? To me this is a sad time in local high school sports. I have actually had this happen to me where another school wanted my child to transfer to their school. I spoke to my children and explained that I had rather them be win less and stay with their friends, school and community before they would go to a rival team. Maybe I'm just old and haven't changed with the times !!! Lol
 
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Can't really disagree with anything that's been said we have become a me first generation. I think too that social media and technology play a part. My son has friends at most SMC schools and it's primarily social media that makes that possible. It makes it easier to switch schools and also makes each kid very recruitable. Most times it's other kids saying "come on play at our school" Our world has become very small and it touches every aspect of our lives.
 
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AAU mentality.

Collectivism (aka teamwork, aka loyalty to a cause greater than yourself, aka personal sacrifice even though it's hard and you're not always winning) is a dirty word.

Instead it's all about me me me. Follow me on Twitter. Look at my snapchats. Check out my hudl highlight film. We live in a country that's seriously considering electing its most famous narcissist to its highest office, a man who called John McCain a "loser" for being shot down and captured as a POW....Message to high school athletes: Don't be a loser. If you don't like your team, then (declare bankruptcy), transfer and start over somewhere else. Don't look back, because you never owed those people anything, and they weren't ever deserving of your brilliance.
 
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We talking about the Hayesville post lol ? It obvious Murphy is recruiting him hard . I'm at least glad of the 365 transfer rule which seems to have stooped swain from poaching our team. Which may be same reason they are 0-3 and cherokee 2-1. Although they still have several kids who grew up on cherokee youth league and transferred right before 9thgrade.
 
BravesGWY said:
We talking about the Hayesville post lol ? It obvious Murphy is recruiting him hard . I'm at least glad of the 365 transfer rule which seems to have stooped swain from poaching our team. Which may be same reason they are 0-3 and cherokee 2-1. Although they still have several kids who grew up on cherokee youth league and transferred right before 9thgrade.
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No this has been on my mind for a few years now. Every year you see a real good player that would help their home town school transfer to a power house school just to be a average player on a winning team.
 
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Surry County has 5 schools , Mount Airy, East Surry, Elkin,Surry Central & North Surry 10 miles apart except Mount Airy & North Surry being about 3 to 3 & 1/2 miles apart. That is 10 minutes and less apart with Elkin 15 to 30 minutes away the other 4 schools. Elkin is in Surry county but being closer to the Yadkin & most of the Wilkes schools likes to identify with those schools IMO..If I remember correctly about 15 or 20 years ago the county wanted to put all the schools in one county system and I think Elkin was the only hold out and it did not happen. If I am wrong someone with a better memory correct me. I do remember it was talked about and that is how I remember it. Or it could have been Mount Airy & Elkin being the only two city schools. Hope someone from Surry County remembers how this went down.
 
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It obvious Murphy is recruiting him hard .
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Murphy isn't recruiting anyone, the kid in question wanted to transfer of his own accord, no one had talked to him about it. As for the other Hayesville kid, I was simply making an observation that he was a very talented athlete who could play for anybody in this area.

Just this summer 3 different kids showed up at Murphy (one from Fannin County GA, one from Union County GA and another from Tennessee) and none one of them stuck it out, probably because they didn't want to have to earn their spot.

This type of thing seems to be happening more and more each year and most of the kids that are shopping themselves will ultimately be a net negative to whatever program they join imo, because generally they're only interested in what a team can do for them, not the other way around.
 
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Surry County has 5 schools , Mount Airy, East Surry, Surry Central & North Surry 10 miles apart except Mount Airy & North Surry being about 3 to 3 & 1/2 miles apart. That is 10 minutes and less apart with Elkin 15 to 30 minutes away the other 4 schools. Elkin is in Surry county but being closer to the Yadkin & most of the Wilkes schools likes to identify with those schools IMO..If I remember correctly about 15 or 20 years ago the county wanted to put all the schools in one system and I think Elkin was the only hold out and it did not happen. If I am wrong someone with a better memory correct me. I do remember it was talked about and that is how I remember it. Or it could have been Mount Airy & Elkin being the only two city schools. Hope someone from Surry County remembers how this went down.
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Over the years the county has tried to force Elkin and MA into the county system many times. So far they have been able to fight them off.
 
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Kids bounce back and forth between ma and North Surry with the change of an address. That's been going on for years and years. No dog in that fight (no pun intended). Loyalty and going to school where you live and supporting your community has become a thing of the past.
 
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moped master said:
AAU mentality.

Collectivism (aka teamwork, aka loyalty to a cause greater than yourself, aka personal sacrifice even though it's hard and you're not always winning) is a dirty word.

Instead it's all about me me me. Follow me on Twitter. Look at my snapchats. Check out my hudl highlight film. We live in a country that's seriously considering electing its most famous narcissist to its highest office, a man who called John McCain a "loser" for being shot down and captured as a POW....Message to high school athletes: Don't be a loser. If you don't like your team, then (declare bankruptcy), transfer and start over somewhere else. Don't look back, because you never owed those people anything, and they weren't ever deserving of your brilliance.
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Trump is not who I want running the country, but considering the alternative, well.....

This country is screwed either way and has been since 2008. It won't get any better no matter who wins the election IMO.
 
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Are coaches loyal to the programs? Nope. They set the example and the example is bad. Start your criticism with the coaches. But yes I agree.
 
The coaches that are loyal to their programs are the ones that have winning programs year in and year out. With 6 more wins Mount Airy will hit the that unique North Carolina 700 win club this year in 3rd place behind only Shelby and Reidsville. They are setting at 694 with their first 3 wins of the season. Here is a list of the 500 win and above. >>>>> http://www.footballfridaynight.com/StateDetail.php?qState=NC#.V8xmV5MrJjc
 
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@moped master...

Excellent post. Also, I can't argue with anything you said in the first paragraph. I never looked at it that way. Unfortunately, and no matter whose fault it is, going forward, I think that things are just about too far gone to fix. I don't envy the next president, or even the next few presidents, for that matter.
 
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@moped master...

Excellent post. Also, I can't argue with anything you said in the first paragraph. I never looked at it that way. Unfortunately, and no matter whose fault it is, going forward, I think that things are just about too far gone to fix. I don't envy the next president, or even the next few presidents, for that matter.
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I agree. Man I'm getting old and curmudgeonly, Nolefan.
 
Kids don't do transfers. Parents do. Parents are the final say or in the case of no parents its a handler (uncle, cousin, etc..). Schools are all different. They have a curriculum plan and jumping schools makes for hard times on the future educational side. The goal is to become successful in life, not get a stupid ring (which is not possible in most cases). My son has two state rings- never seen either one on his fingers after the first day. His goals were big in sports but much bigger in life after school. I was approached to bring him to multiple schools which never was even a consideration. Same with my daughter. Privates wanted her for volleyball. Never gave it a thought. Sports should be fun. Coaches make it a job.
 
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The nchsaa could put a stop to it but they don't enforce the rules at all. I know here in Buncombe County kids transfer all the time between schools. I don't even know ig the 365 day rule exists.
 
ESOD said:
Kids bounce back and forth between ma and North Surry with the change of an address. That's been going on for years and years. No dog in that fight (no pun intended). Loyalty and going to school where you live and supporting your community has become a thing of the past.
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Really??????? I'm shocked....
 
Bishop had one decent team make a run to the second round a few years ago in football if I recall. Want to talk about a flameout poster. I guess he yammers on about the girls basketball team still..... oh well, between him and the old city school systems and that mess they have in Surry County should be a lively debate on how beat the NCHSAA attendance policy and be proud while doing it!!!!!
 
NCHSAA has no policemen. Enforcement is left to the LEAs. If they don't care then nobody cares.
 
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