This was a program with storied history and always one of the best teams in Guilford County. Over the past 3-4 years it seems like they are a doormat that doesn't have any athletes or discipline. They always use to have some of the best athletes in the state.
What has happened to HP Andrews?
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Do they have any faculty assistants, or just part-time volunteers? That seems to have been an issue in the past.
There have been many threads on this but I’ll
sum it up below.
1. They have been killed by redistricting/school choice in high point whereas many of their former middle
Class whites and blacks now go to Southwest Guilford under the new system (and bingo, Southwest becomes good in basketball and football over the last 5 years, and this year for example is the only undefeated team left in Guilford County).
1a. Andrews is trending towards 1a enrollment (take away the aviation academy which is included in their 10 day enrollment) and they are damn near there already. This has brought their numbers way down. They still have athletes and some really good ones but not nearly the numbers and depth they once had even 4-5 years ago. It’s beyond sad.
2. Turnover in administration at the school
3. Turnover in head coaches
4. Too many Non teaching coaches on staff because administration doesn’t see value in hiring teaching positions with coaches
sum it up below.
1. They have been killed by redistricting/school choice in high point whereas many of their former middle
Class whites and blacks now go to Southwest Guilford under the new system (and bingo, Southwest becomes good in basketball and football over the last 5 years, and this year for example is the only undefeated team left in Guilford County).
1a. Andrews is trending towards 1a enrollment (take away the aviation academy which is included in their 10 day enrollment) and they are damn near there already. This has brought their numbers way down. They still have athletes and some really good ones but not nearly the numbers and depth they once had even 4-5 years ago. It’s beyond sad.
2. Turnover in administration at the school
3. Turnover in head coaches
4. Too many Non teaching coaches on staff because administration doesn’t see value in hiring teaching positions with coaches
Mostly yes. I know that the new head coach has advocated for more staff coaches but with turnover in administration and AD, I think he’s been fighting an uphill battle in getting teachers hired who also can and will coach. Another item of concern is the dwindling enrollment at Welborn Middle which is Andrews primary feeder school. They are in the 400’s in enrollment. That lends itself to Andrews being 1a in next 5 years without any changes. Also worth noting that Central’s 2 best players (whose parents are Andrews graduates and were big time football players in their time) went to Welborn Middle but chose to go to Hp Central due to all the inconsistency in staff at Andrews. Major changes need to happen at Andrews....
FWIW, realignment will be based on the 2019 ADM numbers for the school year beginning fall 2021.
This realigment will be for four years, ending with the 2024 school year.
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Seem to remember reading that one of the reasons Patterson left was the administration's unwillingness to hire teacher/coaches. Certainly there are exceptions, but faculty to volunteer ratio often seems to correlate to success. Especially as it relates to discipline.
I know. I meant 1a numbers. We are a reali
100% agree OC. You are correct as Patterson was more than fed up with the administration and lack of support overall within the school and district. It turned into a full time job for him just to find assistant coaches because there weren’t many willing or capable on the teaching staff. Head coaches have enough on their plates, last thing they need to be doing is fighting their own to get resources that should be without questions. Years ago, teaching positions used to be listed with preference given to
Those willing to coach. You see less of that now or not at all frankly.
I would have definitely been willing to volunteer if I was still at Thomas Bus, but I got laid off a few months ago so... Sorry. 
With the right coach and support staff, they are still a good to really good team. Win for a few years then you’ll get many of the indistrict kids to stay and then you’ll see that jump back to where they were and traditionally have been.
