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The Weak 4A East

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The playoff picture is now in sight and the excitement is in the air. I have followed HS football closely since I graduated and the power from east to west and west to east is a given to flow back and forth. From 1970 to 2002 the west has won 20 4A championships and the East has won 12. However 2 of those were to RC playing in the west. Most North Carolinian's probably consider RC and eastern team but lets not split hairs. Sub division started in 2003. Since then the West has won 13 out of 14 years in 4AA. One of those years was RC playing in the West as well but there is clear domination over those years. Most of those games were not close.



In 4A, ACR won it in 03 then 4 straight by Greenville Rose followed by Hoggard and 71st as the East claimed 6 straight before ACR ended the streak. Then the East won 4 of the next 6 years. So the East has fared much better in 4A . This year things looked very bad in the East until SC was pushed East, now they have a chance again, other wise this appears to me, to be one of the weakest 4A East fields that I can remember. Look at the comparison of SOS from East to West with projected scd. There are 101 4A teams this year.



Rose 59 vs N.Durham 56

Cardinal Gibbons 89 vs SE Raleigh 87

W.Johnston 88 vs Person 97

Cape Fear 69 vs Clayton 90



Scotland 67 vs New Bern 76

DH Conley 84 vs Seventy-First 61

Hillside 85 vs Hoggard 48

New Hanover 31 vs Pine Forest 49





Davie 10 vs SE Guilford 28

Glenn 42 vs AL Brown 38

Watauga 101 vs SW Guilford 45

Dudley 18 vs Alexander Central 95



E.Forsyth 17 vs McDowell 96

TC Roberson 99 vs N.Davidson 35

Mt.Tabor 39 vs Porter Ridge 46

Catholic 47 vs Parkland 86



It isn't as difficult to be 9-1 or 8-2 when you play as soft of a scd as you see in with the East teams.I would say SC is by far the best team in the East probably follow by Hillside and CF. Hillside most impressive game to me would be an 8 point loss to Dudley. Hard to believe the game was that close looking at the stats, 512 to 225. Hillside struggled to beat a 5-6 NB team and a 7-4 SD team. They also beat Cardnal Gibbons 41-35. Hard to say how good CG is because their scd is very weak also.

CF best wins were against 3A Terry Sanford(7-3) 42-35 and 71st (8-2) 29-27. The rest of their scd is very weak. Also, 75% of their yards come from 1 player. This can work, just ask NB and Page but it usually doesn't.

If we took SC out I would say there are at least 7 teams in the west that could win the East and I don't think there are any team in the East that could win the west. I hope to see the shift start to change back to the East soon but it isn't here now.
 
The playoff picture is now in sight and the excitement is in the air. I have followed HS football closely since I graduated and the power from east to west and west to east is a given to flow back and forth. From 1970 to 2002 the west has won 20 4A championships and the East has won 12. However 2 of those were to RC playing in the west. Most North Carolinian's probably consider RC and eastern team but lets not split hairs. Sub division started in 2003. Since then the West has won 13 out of 14 years in 4AA. One of those years was RC playing in the West as well but there is clear domination over those years. Most of those games were not close.



In 4A, ACR won it in 03 then 4 straight by Greenville Rose followed by Hoggard and 71st as the East claimed 6 straight before ACR ended the streak. Then the East won 4 of the next 6 years. So the East has fared much better in 4A . This year things looked very bad in the East until SC was pushed East, now they have a chance again, other wise this appears to me, to be one of the weakest 4A East fields that I can remember. Look at the comparison of SOS from East to West with projected scd. There are 101 4A teams this year.



Rose 59 vs N.Durham 56

Cardinal Gibbons 89 vs SE Raleigh 87

W.Johnston 88 vs Person 97

Cape Fear 69 vs Clayton 90



Scotland 67 vs New Bern 76

DH Conley 84 vs Seventy-First 61

Hillside 85 vs Hoggard 48

New Hanover 31 vs Pine Forest 49





Davie 10 vs SE Guilford 28

Glenn 42 vs AL Brown 38

Watauga 101 vs SW Guilford 45

Dudley 18 vs Alexander Central 95



E.Forsyth 17 vs McDowell 96

TC Roberson 99 vs N.Davidson 35

Mt.Tabor 39 vs Porter Ridge 46

Catholic 47 vs Parkland 86



It isn't as difficult to be 9-1 or 8-2 when you play as soft of a scd as you see in with the East teams.I would say SC is by far the best team in the East probably follow by Hillside and CF. Hillside most impressive game to me would be an 8 point loss to Dudley. Hard to believe the game was that close looking at the stats, 512 to 225. Hillside struggled to beat a 5-6 NB team and a 7-4 SD team. They also beat Cardnal Gibbons 41-35. Hard to say how good CG is because their scd is very weak also.

CF best wins were against 3A Terry Sanford(7-3) 42-35 and 71st (8-2) 29-27. The rest of their scd is very weak. Also, 75% of their yards come from 1 player. This can work, just ask NB and Page but it usually doesn't.

If we took SC out I would say there are at least 7 teams in the west that could win the East and I don't think there are any team in the East that could win the west. I hope to see the shift start to change back to the East soon but it isn't here now.
its all about the jimmies and the joes and i think there are more joes in the east than you think. I'm not sold on catholic and i know they are defending champs but that schedule is bad and they had some studs on d that are not there this year. I think davie is solid but to me EF and Dudley are the class of that side and I think - SC and CF stack up well with those two. There is something about cape fear - I can't put my finger on it but i think its like page that year with Summers. I could be dead wrong though no one knows- Catholic could run the table again.
 
add Hillside and thats not a bad 3 there JMAC,
I probably worry about Davie as much as anyone because of their style. dudley, catholic and east Forsyth a small step below right now.
I saw CC PLAY and that was a long time ago
But was not really impressed, dont think they have played a team that good since then, but they havent come close to losing.
 
One thing you can take to the bank is that CC will get better thru out the season. Their coaching staff is one of the best in the state.
 
New Bern had to play 3 of the best teams in the state with hill side havelock and West Craven wouldn't say that is weak but I suppose
 
One thing you can take to the bank is that CC will get better thru out the season. Their coaching staff is one of the best in the state.
Catholic is way better than when scotswin saw them. Early on they had growing pains as they did replace a lot of talent especially on D, but they've improved, adjusted and played well since and I believe they are ready for another run
 
absolutely CC14 a loooong time ago and week 1, can virtually take nothing from that. I think our teams both have the same
general problem. Unsure that either has truly been tested unless just that good.
Looking forward to seeing Cape Fear in person tonight.
 
absolutely CC14 a loooong time ago and week 1, can virtually take nothing from that. I think our teams both have the same
general problem. Unsure that either has truly been tested unless just that good.
Looking forward to seeing Cape Fear in person tonight.

Let us know what you think about CF. If South Central gets in, we will be traveling to CF.
 
I would like for the NCHSAA explain how South Central makes the playoffs knowing that they did not defeat a single 4A team all season.
 
Mcdowell, s central, e meck , all 5-6 and 2 spots available, mcdowell the worst maxprep do appears they are out, sc goes to SC, nbern
Goes to cape fear,
 
I like Davie, they can run with that huge RB and throw with THE CPC Player of the Year QB Chris Reynolds who gets every 3rd down conversion. QB Reynolds is so unbelievably good, he can run! he can throw and beat you up with his IQ. When I saw him, I said that's how they beat Page HS... he's unreal... if he were bigger than 5'11 he'd be the best QB in the country. He's Russell Wilson... I'm serious

On the flip side they have two stud LB's and a chippy defense that held West Forsyth to 3pts and Mt Tabor to 10pts. Dangerous team
 
MaxPreps has nothing to do with the last 2 playoff spots...they will draw for those. MaxPreps is only used when seeding in the "pods"
 
All this darn traffic in fville, 7 pm start, whyyyyy, im glad my next few weeks will be at Pate in Laurinburg. No patience. Not making kickoff
 
I like Davie, they can run with that huge RB and throw with THE CPC Player of the Year QB Chris Reynolds who gets every 3rd down conversion. QB Reynolds is so unbelievably good, he can run! he can throw and beat you up with his IQ. When I saw him, I said that's how they beat Page HS... he's unreal... if he were bigger than 5'11 he'd be the best QB in the country. He's Russell Wilson... I'm serious

On the flip side they have two stud LB's and a chippy defense that held West Forsyth to 3pts and Mt Tabor to 10pts. Dangerous team
I told everyone that reynolds was a very good QB and he has proven me right again he came with in a hair of beating Scotland last year and then he gave North Davidson the blueprint this year we are look forward to see him again, and on the next level.
 
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