Rumour From Haywood County........ Is It True?
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You make some good points, but Asheville should have more than one state title in the last 15 years, there's no way around it.
And though none of the playoff losses during the last 15 years would classify as complete failures (with the exceptions of 2002 and 2004) Asheville absolutely should've won the state title in '04 and Wilkins should definitely take a large portion of the blame for that.
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If and when that time comes, I hope they bring a spread offensive, the athletes AHS has year in and out...
Again I'm very thankful for what Wilkins has done for AHS, but as some have stated there is 2 or 3 teams that should have won state, only reason I keep saying we need a spread guy is because it's so much easier to stop us now because teams know what we gone do, if you are in the spread at least you keep the D honest and guessing. You can still run iso, sweep, counter out of it, plus when you have 2 or 3 guys on the sideline that can take it to the house anytime, you need to adjust to your team and what you have and we have the athletes. It would remind me of a Shelby team just in 3a. Also there is no doubt almost every QB we have had could have ran the spread, it's a difference when you only taking 5 passing reps in practice compared to 100. The more practice a QB gets passing the better they will be for some. But AHS fans can't name me one QB that couldn't have ran the spread if had the practice to do it
MBD, he definitely deserves some blame for the '04 loss as does the entire
staff and the defense. '02 ashbrook game was some of the flukiest crap I've ever seen. No doubt Asheville could've had a dynasty from 02-05. I just think it is unfair to not give any credit to the coaching staff. Under Wilkins watch Asheville had been a top 7-10 3a program the last 15 years. Asheville was not consistently a top 10 3a program before 2000.
staff and the defense. '02 ashbrook game was some of the flukiest crap I've ever seen. No doubt Asheville could've had a dynasty from 02-05. I just think it is unfair to not give any credit to the coaching staff. Under Wilkins watch Asheville had been a top 7-10 3a program the last 15 years. Asheville was not consistently a top 10 3a program before 2000.
To be truthful, Noland leaving didn't have anything to do with football or Waynesville fans. If I recall his leaving was directly related to a Canton situation.
There is no doubt Asheville has become a state power (to some) in the Wilkins era. Although as Dynasy said, we should have had a dynasty from 2002-2005. In 2002 Asheville had a 16-3 lead in the fourth round with 2:43 in the game and lost in OT in the fourth round. We should have won a state championship that year. In 2003, we were ranked number 1 for 13 weeks before losing in a blowout to one of the best 3A teams of all time, South Point in about 5 inches of snow. We shouldn't have won a state championship that year. In 2004, we were ranked number 1 in 3A for about 8 weeks until a loss to Roberson. 5 weeks later we are up 20-0 with 5:43 against Concord in the fourth round and lose. We should have won a state championship that year. In 2005, we go undefeated 15-0 and win a state championship with Crezdon Butler and Johnny White. In 2007, we are in the fourth round at home against North Gaston and with 1 min left in the game we go for 2 after a touchdown and don't get it. We lose 35-34. We should have played in the state championship game that year. In 2009, we had a hell of a team that was undefeated through 12 weeks with 2 shrine bowlers, Jamil Hawes and Trevor Sawyer. Unfortunately we had to come up against KP Parks and his 12,000 career rushing yards and a West Rowan team who had won 34 straight games. In 2011, we had another great team that lost in the 3rd round to Crest in a game where we both scored 4 touchdowns. We lost 28-25. Last year was a legit state championship appearance caliber team too and it still pisses me off we lost that one 28-23 against Weddington.
We have been a consistent presence in the playoffs during the Wilkins era, but it is indeed true we should have a minimum of 3 state championships the last 15 years.
CougarsofAHS...the spread wasn't very popular in 2003, but can you imagine Michael Byrd in the gun with Johnny White and Crezdon Butler? That team was already 13-0 with a team that ran the I formation every play. I bet we were in the gun 10 times that entire year with Michael Byrd.
Asheville should have state championships in 2002,2004 and 2005 with a minimum of appearances in 2002,2004,2005,2007 and 2014. Woulda shoulda coulda I guess.
Asheville should have state championships in 2002,2004 and 2005 with a minimum of appearances in 2002,2004,2005,2007 and 2014. Woulda shoulda coulda I guess.
Coach Chappell has kids.Now tell me had he rather have those kids going to Haywood County schools or Buncombe county.
Coach Chappell has kids.Now tell me had he rather have those kids going to Haywood County schools or Buncombe county.
Are you really that clueless?? First you say that Chappell will one day better himself but that "Asheville is not the right opportunity" and then you think Haywood County schools are better than Buncombe County Schools or Asheville City Schools. It might do you some good to get out of Haywood County at least a couple times a year and see that there is a whole big world outside of Canton/Bethel/Cruso. He has made his interest known about the potential Asheville opening for at least 2 months that I am aware of. Hopefully for your sake he will stay at Pisgah.
Are you really that clueless?? First you say that Chappell will one day better himself but that "Asheville is not the right opportunity" and then you think Haywood County schools are better than Buncombe County Schools or Asheville City Schools. It might do you some good to get out of Haywood County at least a couple times a year and see that there is a whole big world outside of Canton/Bethel/Cruso. He has made his interest known about the potential Asheville opening for at least 2 months that I am aware of. Hopefully for your sake he will stay at Pisgah.
DKJ could win multiple championships with all those studs who are walking the halls of AHS!
No worries man. I made all that up just to show how fast this kind of stuff spreads. I honestly think the most change you guys will see now that Sexton is AD is maybe Tarr will take over as head coach. Out of all the schools in the MAC I think you guys are the only ones that are set for many years.
I respect Keifer but that guy would have half the team ran off before the first game.
Crest doesn't run the spread and they seem to be doing alright. I'm not a big fan of the spread personally unless you have the QB to do it and you have the numbers to platoon. I like a pro-style offense better and I like Ashevilles system as long as you have an athlete at QB. You are crazy if you think Brandon whiteside would've been more effective in the spread.
There is just something about seeing Asheville come out in the power I formation that has always made my the hair stand up on the back of my neck. I'll miss it when it's gone.
You can do a little of both. There is a time and a place for both. Running 5 wide on the 1 yard line is stupid and running a fullback dive on 1st and 10 from the 50 yard line is stupid too.
Brandon whiteside had the arm to run the spread, throwing to Drummond, Trevor and company would have had a field day! The spread don't mean just passing. You can also run iso, counter, and all the other stuff. Just to keep defenses guessing and not knowing what you doing every play, run, run, 3rd and long pass. Crest doesn't really run the spread but they in shotgun a lot, running the ball. Seen film with them and Shelby, and they was in the gun a lot. And they pass a whole lot more then we do.
No one from Wilkins staff should be considered.
Time for a black coach who understands his talent each year and uses it.
Time for a black coach who understands his talent each year and uses it.
That's an asinine way of looking at things. Whenever Wilkins decides to hang it up the most qualified candidate should be hired, regardless of their racial background.
If the most qualified candidate happens to be black, then by all means hire him. But setting a mandate to only target one race in a coaching search would be a major disservice to the Asheville football program.
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- Hey dumbass, when is the last time you took a look on our sidelines? I can name three of Wilkins coaching staff currently who are black. Morgan, Whiteside, Hammonds. Maybe you should pick another team. We don't need you.
I don't think any of those 3 guys would be considered. Coach hammonds is a living legend who has literally coached at Asheville high for 45 years and the other 2 guys are first year assistant coaches in their mid 20s. If Wilkins decided to hang it up there will be dozens of qualified applicants and whoever is the most qualified should get the job. Black white whatever
Yeah I know, but he was implying that we didn't have any "black" coaches that could relate to players. BTW, Coach Hammonds was coaching when I played there and even back then he was in his late 90's and no one would mess with him. I still remember him beating our fastest baseball player back in the 80's in the 100 yard dash and it wasn't even close.
Coach hammonds does not age. He is probably a better athlete than most of ashevilles players. Imagine the games he has been a part of the last half century at Asheville high. Countless shrine bowlers, nfl players, playoff games, hurricane games, snow games, snow practices, practices in the gym, film sessions, how many times he mowed the field when it was natural grass, different coaches he's coached with, how many player fights he's seen, coaches arguments, locker room renovations, the building of memorial stadium, weight room renovations, how many jerseys he's laid out Thursday nights, how many pre game meals he's been apart of. The thing that man has seen at Asheville high the last 4 and a half decades is insane. Nobody in the history of Asheville high football is as close to that program than gene hammonds and it doesn't matter if you are the head coach, the superstar D1 runningback or the waterboy, when coach hammonds says something, you do it.
