The 10 year Till Plan
http://www.yourdailyjournal.com/spo...l-program-to-host-community-night-on-thursday
http://www.yourdailyjournal.com/spo...l-program-to-host-community-night-on-thursday
Richmond Football Program
- Thread starter nexthing
- Start date
Did anyone on here go to this? I read about it in the Richmond observer and I am very impressed with what Till has developed! In my opinion Richmond will have the best weight room in NC in the next 4-5 years after funding for it. Till is all about Program.
Anyone have anything interesting of what he said in person that the paper did not cover?
Anyone have anything interesting of what he said in person that the paper did not cover?
What are the enrollment numbers with Richmond these day? Are they going down or staying steady? Watching their last game against the 4th best team in the I-Meck. They have a long long way to go. They have no size in the trenches. Which they will need to make a run.
That might have worked years back, but now the top teams are just huge in the trenches on both sides of the ball, and very athletic. WF, MC, Harding, Scotland all had size. It's not the only factor, but it definitely matters. Emanuel Wilson rushed for 271 yards against Richmond. I was at the game. Their OL was just blowing Richmond off the ball. They were just to small. That was with 41 seniors.
Last edited:
I also saw a video of the meeting last night. Probably was Richmond Observer. If I can find it I will post a link. If anyone else knows where it was posted please provide the link. I am greatly impressed with Coach and his plans for the future. The video is long but if you want to know about this coach and his plans it is worth watching. I understand that around 300 people attended the meeting. I found the link:
Last edited:
State of the program in HS - LMAO get a life Richmond County -You are just a good program now. Nothing wrong with the product you are putting on the field you are just not the top dog anymore and it happens to all programs. be thankful for what you had and still have which is a good program.
I don't see why this type of thing would be funny? For long term success coaches need to involve everyone within the community for their program. Everyone is involved with the raising of these children into young men.
It takes a village...
there are plenty of programs our there, couple in the same conference that have coaches who were new alongside Till when he started at Richmond, that are struggling to find identities because their HC's are lazy, not Ra Ra guys, don't even talk to their players, and don't have enough enthusiasm about THEIR program. With Till doing this it doesn't matter who you are rooting for but you have to respect the effort this man is giving and everything he is doing because at the end of the day he is there to help the children out, and that's what football is truly about! It just bothers me to see people out in the world laugh at another man taking a step in the right direction. Lets help our fellow man out and encourage others to follow his lead.
This is a Coach who has an actual plan for the program. He is forward thinking down the road for long term success which is a must in todays day and age.
Great he has a plan and he should but what a about the state of education in Richmond County is what I'm saying. I love HS football as much as anyone but a state of the union address come on man!
You are missing the point the emphasis that such a topic of discussion is taking place is my issue. I'm glad he is concerned about the kids grades but I'm sure there are more pressing issues in RC and at RCHS. Priorities is all I'm saying. He should discuss his program if he sees fit but is it really that important especially in Feb? I would say the same if Bailey was doing this at Scotland County.
Last edited:
He is a HFC lol his job is to build a winning football program and develop young men that someday may lead that community. That also includes the state of the academic progress of his students. Start early enough to get community involvement so everyone knows the plan and can provide feedback, assistance, etc.
It's Great some are Goo-Goo Gah-Gah over Till and what he's doing. Funny thing is these were the SAME things Paul Hoggard was doing. He just didnt make a spectacle of it. He quietly went about running a top notch program. Richmond could've stayed the course & not fallen back had they not forced Hoggard out.
Some idiot and I'm pretty sure he has posted on this thread said Richmond would do better without Hoggard than Hoggard would do without Richmond. Well, let's see....Hoggard has been to 2 Final 4's, won a Regional Championship, played for a State Championship, and won State Coach of the Year Honors. Richmond has steadily gotten worse and this past year had the worst record since the Mid-80's. Sometimes you don't know what you got until it's gone.
Some idiot and I'm pretty sure he has posted on this thread said Richmond would do better without Hoggard than Hoggard would do without Richmond. Well, let's see....Hoggard has been to 2 Final 4's, won a Regional Championship, played for a State Championship, and won State Coach of the Year Honors. Richmond has steadily gotten worse and this past year had the worst record since the Mid-80's. Sometimes you don't know what you got until it's gone.
All coaches provide a "state of the program" address it just usually takes place at a booster club, optimist club or some other supporting group meeting. I see nothing wrong with opening the message up to a broader base. In fact, seems pretty smart playing to one of the strengths of being at Richmond which is being a county high school. Why wouldn't you discuss it at an open public forum? As far as priorities, studies have shown student participation in extracurricular activities bodes well to the overall atmosphere of a school. Maybe his report could or has encouraged some student/students family that may have been sitting on the fence in regards to becoming involved in some shape or form. Another reason, have you seen attendance at the games lately? Nothing like what it used to be, so why not try to win back some of that support by showing what your program represents and hopes to achieve? The greatest thing about it is: he is doing what he thinks is right for his community, school and program and doesn't care what others outside of that community think. Us against them, circle the wagons, all hands on deck,....you get the idea, hopefully.
You must have plenty of time to reflect back to the days of Hoggard while you make that drive back and forth every day.
Just wouldnt be an off season without the annual Richmond Raider bitching about the coach thread. Always entertaining.
Carry on.
Carry on.
It's what we live for, providing off season entertainment for you Charlotte guys.
What’s ah-hatning my cousins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yall bees tearing this thread up. How bout letting the coach be the coach. The man obviously wants to make thangs great again for Richmond. I believe he is on thu right track folks. I wouldn’t let anyone outside the magic kingdom interfere with the plan or with what he voiced. Don’t allow the outsiders opinions to define Richmond
Build it and they will come.....
LETS GET IT ON.......
Yall bees tearing this thread up. How bout letting the coach be the coach. The man obviously wants to make thangs great again for Richmond. I believe he is on thu right track folks. I wouldn’t let anyone outside the magic kingdom interfere with the plan or with what he voiced. Don’t allow the outsiders opinions to define Richmond
Build it and they will come.....
LETS GET IT ON.......
Last edited:
It was a SCOTLAND fan bitching about the Richmond coach. Not Raider fans.
Hoggard gone. He made a decision to leave. If he was weak enough to let fans run him off ya probably didn’t need him anyway. 2008 state title was luck anyway..
Between now and 2028 Scotland must prepare because Richmond is preparing. A long range 10 year plan is monumental. You see, a 10yr plan takes a lot of work, thinking, and planning to assure success. I really don’t know who these people are talking about the plan but I’m gonna take a wild guess they are Greasy Spoon Waiter, the Walmart Greeter, or the Gas Station Register Specialist. Obviously they don’t know what it takes or what it means to put a plan as such in place.
Who cares who has attempted this before, who cares what coaches left, what one should care about is what’s ahead. Stop looking at the rear view mirror and look at the windshield.
Who cares who has attempted this before, who cares what coaches left, what one should care about is what’s ahead. Stop looking at the rear view mirror and look at the windshield.
Last edited:
Your insightful assessment is ... interesting(?). Bottom-line - Hoggard was a strong enough parent (to make a decision) to remove his son from ridiculous - "ridiculous" being a serious/GROSS understatement too, by the way - hostile, interactive exposure/experience. Seems to have worked out fairly well for both of them too, huh? They certainly managed to do better than Richmond. I guess that could also be considered "luck"- depending upon one's perspective. Quite sure you may have an opinion on that, as well.
Best of luck to the Raiders as they venture through the coming decade under Coach Till. No coach has ever lasted/remained at Richmond for 10-consecutive seasons. Interestingly enough, Hoggard is the only one who came close (8). Daryl Barnes coached 8-seasons at Richmond - but, they were broken up into 2, 4-year stints ... 6-years apart. Just sayin.
I wasn’t the first one who brought up Hoggard.. Mr king diamond did that. Fact is he left for whatever reason and I don’t know what his record was wherever he ended up. Ref 2008 if Jack Britt didn’t fumble it probably would have been a loss because the Raiders couldn’t stop them either. Moving on now.. You are correct about no head coach being at Richmond for 10 straight years. I hope the program is on the way up after the 7-5 season. They will need bigger players on offense line and defensive line to do that. Good luck to Coach Till and staff.
Barnes was a brilliant coach. He never stayed at any school for long a period of time. Look it up and you will see. Without Barnes and some great athletes Richmond would not had the success it had. At no time have I slandered Barnes. You brought Barnes up.
Last edited:
Barnes coached 14 seasons. 8 at Richmond with stops at Southern Guilford,NE Guilford and South Brunswick. Was a principal when he retired.
So a hail marry that bounces off a receiver into the hands of a guy who catches his only pass of the year is brilliant coaching but a guy who takes advantage of an opponents mistake is lucky....interesting. Also, why did Barnes leave those 2 times? Wasn't because he wasn't getting what he wanted? Wouldn't that be considered weak? You Fun N' Gun opened this up when you called the man(Hoggard) weak which refers to a person's character. I replied with Barnes name because i know how revered the man is to our program and if you are going to call Hoggard weak and lucky then you should be willing to say the same about Barnes. Funny Richmond has had 10 head coaches in it's history(counting Barnes 2x) who have left at some point in time for some reason and you single one out as being weak and lucky. The one who survived the longest, yeah that makes sense.
My favorite part of the annual Richmond coaching thread is when the Daryl Barnes conversation begins. Guy hasnt coached there in 17 years and hasnt won a title in 20. Think it might be time to move on??
In reality its really the perfect metaphor for the program. Stuck in the 90's. Go back and look at the Wake Forest game this year. Thats what football looks like in the Carolinas in 2018. 200lb lineman get moved around like chew toys at the elite level.
Its 365 a year in the weight room at every position and it starts at the freshman level.
Till seems a great dude ( So did Hoggard for that matter) but its gonna take time and a little luck to get back to competitive on the state level. 3 or 4 solid years of developing size and strength. Does Richmond have that kind of patience or does it continue to be this fantasy world of Daryl Barnes that drives the agenda? How many loses to the 5th or 6th best Charlotte program is gonna be accepted?
In reality its really the perfect metaphor for the program. Stuck in the 90's. Go back and look at the Wake Forest game this year. Thats what football looks like in the Carolinas in 2018. 200lb lineman get moved around like chew toys at the elite level.
Its 365 a year in the weight room at every position and it starts at the freshman level.
Till seems a great dude ( So did Hoggard for that matter) but its gonna take time and a little luck to get back to competitive on the state level. 3 or 4 solid years of developing size and strength. Does Richmond have that kind of patience or does it continue to be this fantasy world of Daryl Barnes that drives the agenda? How many loses to the 5th or 6th best Charlotte program is gonna be accepted?
Barnes record at Richmond 110 wins 6 losses 5 state titles Career record was 157 wins 25 losses in 14 total years as a head coach. I don’t care who his assistant coaches was that’s a unbelievable record. He spent many years as a administrator.I know the success he had will NEVER be repeated at Richmond for various reasons. The main reason being lack of big lineman. Like I said earlier I wish the present staff good luck in the future. I watched wake forest in person this past year and seen why they won the title. Big,fast and well coached.
Agreed. Both you and Blue &Gold make many good points. Barnes is done and over, amazing job and many thanks for solidifying Richmond as a program, probably never to be duplicated. Blue and Gold also agree with you, getting harder and harder to win at the top level without some size, but speed has always been a bit of an equalizer. Unfortunately for the rest of us (not just Richmond), the top schools have shown that they have had the size and speed. Also agree too many people are stuck in the 80's and 90's been time to let go. Our kids have to listen to that all the time, well there good but they're not 19_ _ whatever good. It is time to move on, past time to move on and i know those coaches that have been in the program whether it was under Emory, Hoggard, Castellano, or Till have always been looking forward and not back. They know the past, they are constantly reminded of it by the community it is a burden they enjoying bearing because it is not like that at many other programs. One of the hardest things about coaching at a place like Richmond is getting the kids to circle the wagons for each other and look forward when they are constantly being compared to the past. I have stated in earlier post why i brought up Barnes name and why i have defended Hoggard. I appreciate what both men did for the programs past. It is also the reason why i agree with coach Till's approach to his addressing the community setting a plan for the future. Great thing about high school football especially rural settings you play with the hand you are dealt with, you have to coach because nobody like the Harding rb is moving in to save you.
Similar threads
