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The DC will not get the NF job. The interviews will start this week. It will be someone from the outside.
The Winston Salem Journal has reported that the job has been awarded to Jay Blair, a current assistant at RJ Reynolds High.
https://www.journalnow.com/sports/p...cle_1fcb1ec8-ce20-575d-909f-4efc27acd8a9.html
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I wish him luck. That program is going to be a challenge. Very little tradition, the lure of the adjacent schools (West Forsyth, Reagan, Mt Tabor)...
I certainly don’t think they’ll waltz into their new 2A conference and make much of a mark in year 1.
Nonetheless, I’m rooting for Jay Blair. I don’t know him, but people are speaking highly of him.
I certainly don’t think they’ll waltz into their new 2A conference and make much of a mark in year 1.
Nonetheless, I’m rooting for Jay Blair. I don’t know him, but people are speaking highly of him.
Oh great, another Forsyth county HC who played in the NFL..
He's an alright guy I guess; never met him when we scrimmaged Reynolds but he's seemed okay. He talked to us unlike what some coaches we play don't do.
NF's got a lot of problems and by changing HC's it isn't gonna solve it instantly. If their ADM's quit dropping it's not gonna matter; their depth ended up very bad by the end of the year. Their O line was horrendus and they had no running game. They lost their strong armed QB too and will be young in almost every spot. Their JV's were okay last year but against much older teams they will struggle. Maybe in 2021 they might have a squad but until that program has stablity it will be a long road up. They will beat Atkins, Carver, and Surry Central I think this coming year. Maybe Forbush.
He's an alright guy I guess; never met him when we scrimmaged Reynolds but he's seemed okay. He talked to us unlike what some coaches we play don't do.
NF's got a lot of problems and by changing HC's it isn't gonna solve it instantly. If their ADM's quit dropping it's not gonna matter; their depth ended up very bad by the end of the year. Their O line was horrendus and they had no running game. They lost their strong armed QB too and will be young in almost every spot. Their JV's were okay last year but against much older teams they will struggle. Maybe in 2021 they might have a squad but until that program has stablity it will be a long road up. They will beat Atkins, Carver, and Surry Central I think this coming year. Maybe Forbush.
How does the gate in that conference compare to the conference they came from?
Oak Grove played Carver this year... Carver brought 15 fans. Does Atkins travel any better?
Dropping classifications can help... but lower gate revenue can hurt pretty bad too.
Oak Grove played Carver this year... Carver brought 15 fans. Does Atkins travel any better?
Dropping classifications can help... but lower gate revenue can hurt pretty bad too.
North Forsyth will be better. But I'd expect a 4-7 5-6 type team until they get the athletes out, then we can talk about 7 or 8 wins. I'm pretty sure that Atkins will bring about the same as carver maybe slightly more. Carver has a good fan base, but they are so bad now.
All the Forsyth schools in the WPAC are pitiful in terms of bringing people. One reason why the non Forsyth schools hate that conference so much as it kills their income very year. They have to rely on their home fans to be able to make even and have enough to pay the refs without losing money. If you're program is winning you will be okay but if not it makes it all tough on the school.
Carver is hands down the worst; besides their band (who were a quarter late,) they brought 2-3 people when they played us this year. The first two games they played us at home under Crowell they had 20-30 people so it was a HUGE drop and sad to look at it. I'll never forget seeing the newspaper article of the game from in October and seeing a shot of nothing but silver bleacher seats on our away side; I've never seen that from a Varsity game. When we played CSD week 4 down in Huntersville at Hopewell last year it was bad but nowhere as bad as that was. We also had a makeup game down there on a Monday last year and there was maybe 20 total fans on both sides; not pretty.
Atkins I'll give them credit they have a very small but passionate fanbase who roots for them no matter what. We started playing them when Hamlin started and they had 4-5 fans at our first varsity game but last year they had 15-20 who were loud even though we put the game away after a quarter lol. Their JV game with us had a good 30+ people there for it which was amusing as they were not nowhere that good unlike the previous 2 years.
Walkertown's okay at home but on the road not so much. Same for NF.
Blame WS/FCS open enrollment, school of choice, etc. plus building WAY TO MANY High Schools in close proximity.
Who can justify having East Forsyth, Atkins, Walkertown, Carver, WS Prep all within such a close proximity of one another? Talk about a waste of resources both educationally and athletically.
Atkins, Carver, Walkertown, WS Prep combined would be fine but no sense at all in having 4 wich small enrollments so close to one another PLUS the fact that Walkertown has to SHARE facilities with the Middle School which can be a nightmare.
Who can justify having East Forsyth, Atkins, Walkertown, Carver, WS Prep all within such a close proximity of one another? Talk about a waste of resources both educationally and athletically.
Atkins, Carver, Walkertown, WS Prep combined would be fine but no sense at all in having 4 wich small enrollments so close to one another PLUS the fact that Walkertown has to SHARE facilities with the Middle School which can be a nightmare.
It's that bad. Forsyth County is finally getting what they wanted though. A depleted Carver.
I’ve heard this said before. It’s intriguing. Can’t close Carver because of its history. So instead its death by attrition.
Carver's situation started to decline when FCS/WS agreed to build Walkertown at the end of the 2000's. They claimed it was supposed to help overcrowding at East the best I could find in news pieces but all it did was negate Carver more than anything. It was slow at first but the past 3 years has been very rapid in terms of the drop. They had 800+ kids when I was in school and now they have less than 600; very sudden drop the past 2 years. They had 1A numbers in 2012 for a year technically but this is the lowest they have had that I could find. Not good.
Worst thing they ever did was to build Walkertown. They shoulda just rebuilt Carver into a more modern and safer school and made it a solid 3A. In that world there woulda been no Walkertown, a solid Carver, and the two prep schools down the road for some options. They also coulda sent a few hundred kids to North Forsyth and they wouldn't be stuggling ADM wise either.
Still blows my mind seeing NF who I always considered a 4A. now a 2A school.
If any part of the county needed a new school it could have been West or Parkland's area; that Walkertown/Carver area sure didn't need one. Waste of time and money.
Worst thing they ever did was to build Walkertown. They shoulda just rebuilt Carver into a more modern and safer school and made it a solid 3A. In that world there woulda been no Walkertown, a solid Carver, and the two prep schools down the road for some options. They also coulda sent a few hundred kids to North Forsyth and they wouldn't be stuggling ADM wise either.
Still blows my mind seeing NF who I always considered a 4A. now a 2A school.
If any part of the county needed a new school it could have been West or Parkland's area; that Walkertown/Carver area sure didn't need one. Waste of time and money.
Agree, no more unsafe than any other HS. I have been there for many sporting events and never felt unsafe.
In the last 5 years I have been at the school: 1 week after there was a shooting at the school; I have been at the school within a month of a player being stabbed in a locker room; I have been at the school during a game when shots were fired within a couple hundred yards of the football field.
I think I might consider that fairly unsafe.
As far as future WSFC schools go... I hear that there is a plan to build a high school in the area between Parkland and West Forsyth. Near the existing Flat Rock Middle School/Kimel Farm Elementary on Ebert Rd.
If that is the case, it just feels like Parkland will be the next to decline. Thoughts?
If that is the case, it just feels like Parkland will be the next to decline. Thoughts?
North Forsyth could get things turned around quickly with the right coach. Open enrollment makes a difference
No offense to Carver's staff as they do the best they can do with what little they have but it is what is as the kids say now. Stuff happens there quite a bit. You can look at state school report cards and see it dramatically. I'll give them new guy credit he hasn't had anything awful happen yet unlike Crowell who had stuff happen all the time during his run there. His last month there during that '16 season was unreal.
I seen that heads on twice. In 2014 we had to wear our home jerseys on the road there for their homecoming because some kids broke in and stole every one of their then new grey home jersey's Crowell spent thousands of bucks on (why not wear the black jerseys they wear on JV now I have no clue.) in 2016 the day we played them there was a big fight during their spirit assembly and it got ugly; we weren't informed of it until that next week and we were quite upset, mainly because that coulda expanded to the ball game later. Thankfully it didn't; but we had a right to know about it and they never told us which irritated us a good bit.
During the games I haven't felt threatened at all (they are hospitable to us every year,) but the possiblity of something happening makes me always on my toes. I hope nothing ever happens but I can't ever rule it out.
I seen that heads on twice. In 2014 we had to wear our home jerseys on the road there for their homecoming because some kids broke in and stole every one of their then new grey home jersey's Crowell spent thousands of bucks on (why not wear the black jerseys they wear on JV now I have no clue.) in 2016 the day we played them there was a big fight during their spirit assembly and it got ugly; we weren't informed of it until that next week and we were quite upset, mainly because that coulda expanded to the ball game later. Thankfully it didn't; but we had a right to know about it and they never told us which irritated us a good bit.
During the games I haven't felt threatened at all (they are hospitable to us every year,) but the possiblity of something happening makes me always on my toes. I hope nothing ever happens but I can't ever rule it out.
Makes sense to me. West is huge and might could use some help with some kids; however a split might make them less solid unless they away with not losing their best areas of kids. But their rep will always keep them afloat. West has the luck of being a directional county school which means they will never be neglected too much.
Parkland's back and forth every year in terms of ADM's but they have improved program wise quite a bit and Marshall's a good hand so I see them staying solid at 3A. A loss of kids would hurt them though due to their magnet status. They have to compete with Atkins now who is about a 3A theirselves so it will be intresting the next few years..
