That was the most hypocritical thing I have seen. The coach that led the charge on that won two state championships at a previous school and his superstar running back lived in a different school district. Go figure.Rowan County schools did the same thing in 2012. The only reason the votes don’t pass is because soooo many people abstain. Admin deep in the mountains or way east or wherever don’t pay enough attention to matters. I’ll find the numbers for you.
Yes, we do work hard. We pride ourselves on our work ethic. Coach Oddo instilled it in the football program and it bled through into other sports as he was the AD and also won a couple state titles as a women's swim coach. We pride ourselves on outworking the opponent and out executing them. We don't have the talent of a MC, Butler, Chambers or Wake Forest. We do execute at an incredibly high level.
If you think we are out cherry picking athletes then where are all the big D1 signings from football this year? I'll wait. We had one Bucknell signee and one go to Lommis Chaffee prep school from there he'll head to Navy.
Florida is a prime example because their level of football is high, they do not run from competition or try to 'vote it out', same with other states I named.
Optics, lol ok, yes, optics are important, but you ignored the charter school question. You glossed over it, they get to pick from large swaths of territory (25 miles), many of them in metropolitan areas, why are we not throwing them out?
We actually play by tougher rules, we are scrutinized more than any public school in the state would be because the state makes sure we follow those rules to a T. Which we do.
Love that you are such an advocate for all the public schools! Why not be more vocal about the disparities in funding a school like Harding gets from CMS vs Ardrey Kell. You don't care about that do you? No, you don't. You care about your anti-Catholic school bias and that's about it. Do not hide behind a vail of wanting what is best for public schools when you don't know what is really best or needed.
I wonder what your opinion is on Chamber's field, it'd be best for them to get a new one? Where's your advocating for that? I won't hold my breath.
OK coached against Charlotte Catholic twice , both times in the playoffs. Lost both times and afterwards my kids got a lot of Pizza and gatorade. I have nothing but respect for CC and do not think they or the other Catholic schools should be ousted. If you have ever played them they do have 5'8 155 DB's and are not stacked with a ton of athletes. In fact they might be the least athletic winning football team in Charlotte heck some of the .500 teams in Charlotte/Winston/Raleigh are more athletic. What makes them so good is the program they have they run that wing t that no one runs anymore and that just grinds you to hamburger. Defense is pretty much a 4-3. Now why do you think they run that O and D? Lack of athletes. Their kids are so sound so well coached that they beat bigger faster teams. Now do they have normal district lines like say Olympic ? No they don't but they also do not have the players that Olympic has either. If you are going to get rid of the Catholic schools you better get rid of the charter schools as well. If I am some of these 1A or 2A schools I would be screaming from the tree tops saying unfair advantage. But as far as CC, CG , BMcG, CK move them up a classification and be done with it.
I may lose if I play them or I may win but I like the competition, I like to compete and so do my kids.
To me charter schools are more of a problem than the Catholics. You at least have to pay to go there and Charter schools ge to pick who they get to c=keep as well and are shady . But to each their ownWho’s kids don’t enjoy competition? Look, no one thinks Charlotte Catholic is a dirty program filled with bad-intentioned people. No one thinks they’re off signing recruiting classes every year like a college program. I have no personal animosity towards CC. I enjoyed the soccer games and golf matches with CC back in the early 2000s when they were at the 2A level.
But there is a fundamental difference that can’t be ignored and anyone who points it out shouldn’t be labeled a “sore loser”.
Hypothetically, we’re both starting a football program and get 85 players each. My 85 are randomly assigned to me. You get to pick your 85. While nothing is guaranteed, you are far more likely to field a better team.
Two parochial schools, based in our state’s largest cities, have blown by everyone else with 70+ state championships. Some of y’all want to believe it’s just a random coincidence — and they work harder or do this and that better, they’ve figured out something the rest of the schools have not.
Others, like me, don’t see it the same way. Logically speaking, it just doesn’t make sense. It’s not as simple as that.
Parochial schools, who are given permission to operate differently than the rest, have maintained an unparalleled level of athletic success. Any objective person would have questions about a level playing field.
To me charter schools are more of a problem than the Catholics. You at least have to pay to go there and Charter schools ge to pick who they get to c=keep as well and are shady . But to each their own
Not as long as one party holds most of the cards. This thing will become real political in hurry just watch. You 1A and 2A schools are about to get royally screwedIt’s a complicated situation with the charter schools. They operate more like private schools, but they’re technically still considered public and receive public funding. The General Assembly couldn’t get around that key difference.
I imagine charter schools will eventually be separated from traditional public schools once there are enough of them to create a statewide league.
I will illuminate your remarks and say it was Mr Massey from North Stanley who demonstrated some interesting bigotry during these meetings. He was very uncomfortable having any discussion with CCHS principal, Sister Paulette Williams and several of the other school made him appear very small. The coach at Monroe at the time had the most to gain if CCHS was removed becuase at that time they were the two dominate programs. He made some very good points in the session to refute those who asserted their typical false narrative. He simply asked a few question to define their concern. they were not hard questions.. with each question the amount of bias grew until Mr Massey seemed to say they have to go they are just different.North Stanly and West Stanly were the Stanly County schools that spearheaded that with North's principal being the driving force. Albemarle did not vote for it. Not sure about South Stanly but they normally aligned with Albemarle at that time.
So CC doesn’t have to teach state standards. I would guess teachers aren’t paid by the state or have state retirement.I am not aware on any direct State or federal funding. I guess you can say as a non profit they could get indirect funding but the school is not a for profit business.
According to the Ashevill paper all of the atheletic director they contacted in WNC are against this bill.
Putting out false information. Although it may support your theory please refrain.$40M endowment stockpile. Last year NCHSAA handed out $400,000 in fines to our schools while providing just $40,000 in scholarship money for our student-athletes. That’s shameful.
If the Parochials receive mote funding I for one think that should not be the case. We are ok and that money can go towards schools that need itSawyer pointed out that schools with more resources, including some private schools like Charlotte Catholic and Cardinal Gibbons, receive more money from the association than schools from rural and poorer parts of the state. However, Tucker said the board of directors has reviewed its formula and that they hope changes they've made will cause that trend to reverse in coming years.
HSOT: NCHSAA HEARING
Anyone have a good understanding of this formula? On the surface, you can certainly understand why this wouldn’t go over well with a lot of people.
I have read this entire thread and cannot believe anyone can be on here defending the NCHSAA. Can anyone tell me why the NCAA needs to be sitting there with $41,000,000? As someone who spent many years working at a high school that was always selling cookies, hot dogs, shirts, hats, 50-50's, carwashes, pizzas, and anything else you can name, why does the NCHSAA need this kind of money? Would like to hear one reason. I could not believe the concept of the endowment game when it started - we'll let you play an extra game if you give us the gate, that was/is crazy as hell. I have not seen one thing on here from the ones defending this that makes sense: "Oh it's more complicated than you think, there's a lot of planning blah blah blah. That's why people are being (over)paid huge 6 figure salaries at NCHSAA. That has nothing to do with why the organization needs to take $41,000,000 from a lot of broke ass schools in struggling rural communites. Then I see on here the director uses racism as justification - the nchsaa should be completely eliminated if this their response and is how it is run. I have actually communicated with my representatives about this - something I never do but I find this so disgusting to all the small communities that work like dogs and then send the money off. Great information strikerHHS.“In the past five years alone, they’ve levied over $400k in fines against our schools while amassing over $40M in assets as of 2019,” she continued in an interview with CJ. “Despite their deep pockets, they’ve only awarded a total of $40,500 in scholarships to 35 high school students. The disparity between their wealth and the lack of support for our schools is staggering and in desperate need of oversight – which is why we’ve brought this legislation forward today.”
there you go. calm down. it’s fine that we disagree, but you and i’ve talked back and forth all week and you know i haven’t been purposely putting out false information.
i don’t have an agenda. would i prefer to see how things work under a different leadership group than NCHSSA? Yes. Would I prefer public school athletics be compromised of solely public schools? Yes
But at the end of the day if we keep with the status quo, it’s all good.
What the hell !!! Everyone is bitching, claiming that Catholic gives out scholarships (they don’t) and you just admit to it. Public schools are free so is for a new car ?$40M endowment stockpile. Last year NCHSAA handed out $400,000 in fines to our schools while providing just $40,000 in scholarship money for our student-athletes. That’s shameful.
What the hell !!! Everyone is bitching, claiming that Catholic gives out scholarships (they don’t) and you just admit to it. Public schools are free so is for a new car ?
So another benefit that Catholic’s athletes are barred from partaking in. Sure looks like CCHS is willing to give a lot to play with the big boys..What are you rambling about? I’m not sure who everyone is, but I’ve never accused parochial schools of handing out athletic scholarships. From what I’ve read, parochial’s provide financial aid to eligible students when needed — however, athletes are excluded from that consideration.
The scholarship $ from the NCHSAA is to help student-athletes pay for college.