Is It Over at Erwin?

[footsoldier]

Just wondering. They have been waxed like a cheap surfboard these past two weeks. I know for the longest time they were an easy win like Enka Stinka or N. Buncombe but that changed when they stole one of the Haywood County coaches and have enjoyed some solid seasons of good football. We played them twice in post season and split 1-1. Seems like they might be slipping back into obscurity on the mountain radar. Anyone?

 

[reynoldsrocks]

Don't write them off yet, they are picking on much better opponents this year then the past years. As an ACR fan I am not looking forward to playing them, a passing team gives us fits!

 

[Jerald119]

The funny thing is the team that beat Erwin tonight will get beat pretty bad next week.

 

[jumbob]

The funny thing is the team that beat Erwin tonight will get beat pretty bad next week.

Weren't you the guy saying that Erwin would match up well with SH?

 

[Jerald119]

I thought Erwin might play Science Hill closer. Did Erwin have a lot turnovers tonight.

 

[jumbob]

I thought Erwin might play Science Hill closer. Did Erwin have a lot turnovers tonight.

Not sure (not an Erwin fan). Sorry, you responded before I could amend that post to make it seem less confrontational (upon reading it, I thought "that's not really the tone I was going for here)

 

[Jerald119]

From the Johnson City Press.

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Football/2015/09/11/Hilltoppers.html?ci=stream&lp=1&p=1

 

[jumbob]

I will say that football over there in the state to the West has certainly improved in the past 10-15 years. I used to go watch Greene, Cocke, and some of the Sullivan schools with friends and they were definitely more Madison level than MAC level. Must be some tough teams, cause I don't think Erwin is a bad team at all.

 

[AhsCougar1]

Erwin still probably has a pretty good team, but getting pummeled the last couple weeks and starting 1-3 has to damage your confidence and hurt your playoff seeding without a doubt. Franklin and Reynolds the next two weeks could mean 1-5. We will see

 

[Jerald119]

I'm not Erwin fan either. I went to Watauga and ACR tonight. Wanted to see Dowdle play. Being a Vol fan I keep up with the TN football. Next Week I will be at the Science Hill game to watch them play Maryville.

 

[Jerald119]

I will say that football over there in the state to the West has certainly improved in the past 10-15 years. I used to go watch Greene, Cocke, and some of the Sullivan schools with friends and they were definitely more Madison level than MAC level. Must be some tough teams, cause I don't think Erwin is a bad team at all.

Most of those schools you mentioned are still not that good expect Greeneville . They have won a couple of state championships the past few years.

 

[Packer10]

What were your thoughts on dowdle apvol?

 

[Jerald119]

He is a good football player. Watauga sacked him few times but also had a hard time tackling him too. Like to see him just playing RB but I understand why he is playing QB.

 

[Jerald119]

Here is a few highlights starting at the 5:35 mark.


http://wjhl.com/2015/09/11/wjhltdfn-week-3-high-school-football-scores-and-highlights-here/

 

[GATA 88]

Just wondering. They have been waxed like a cheap surfboard these past two weeks. I know for the longest time they were an easy win like Enka Stinka or N. Buncombe but that changed when they stole one of the Haywood County coaches and have enjoyed some solid seasons of good football. We played them twice in post season and split 1-1. Seems like they might be slipping back into obscurity on the mountain radar. Anyone?

Foot the HC and OC at Erwin are actually Enka guys. The HC did coach in Haywood county. Warriors aren't slipping, scheduled a tougher preseason.

 

[ceingle]

Dear Footsoldier: After many-many years of being a other sport kind of school, (basketball-baseball)Erwin decided to try getting serious about this fall sport you call American Football. After hiring a few veteran coaches to teach us this sport, we found out we could not just jump in and be "the dog". Other schools were very upset that this new found Warrior bunch wanted to be a player in the sport that they and only they were the master of." Win lots of games" they said and you can be the best. Soon after doing just that, we were told "NO NO NO" you are not playing the RIGHT teams. "You need better foes than that!" Ok then, lets try this another way. Let us play the very good teams and then we are playing the game the right way. Now after starting the season1-3 and playing the teams everyone said we must play to do this right, we find our validity being questioned. Where do we go from here? Maybe these football experts can offer up more wonderful advice? For now I believe that the kids will not quit. The conference schedule starts in two weeks and I think the veteran coaches will take us to the playoffs. Just as soon as we have mastered this, maybe we could try this thing called European Football. Just a thought.

 

[footsoldier]

I'm no expert just posed a question. All the best from here.

 

[AhsCougar1]

^^^^wtf

 

[Billy28804]

I believe going undefeated against a weak non conference schedule doesn't prepare you for ACR and Asheville. Beat them to win the MAC and your playoff seeding is just fine. If you don't win the MAC and still make the Playoffs, then prove the seeding experts wrong and beat someone.

 

[COUGAR-90]

CEINGLE, you may need therapy. Your post sounds like you're trying to blame everyone in the MAC for decisions your coaching staff makes. Take the blue pill and try it again.

Footsoldier, all will be well at Erwin. They stepped up this year and scheduled some out of state 5A and 6A teams from Tennessee as well as a good 1A state championship team from Georgia. Right now they are exposing their players to real competition instead of the very, very weak teams they used to play. As long as they can stay healthy they should be in good shape when MAC play starts. The only negative I can see about them is the fact that they still haven't fixed their defensive problems. Every year they blow people out of the water with their offense but their defense isn't enough to keep them in the big games. That's not an attack on Erwin, just fact. The logic the rest of us follows when playing Erwin is this: How do you stop a high powered offense that can literally score every time they touch the ball? You don't let that offense on the field. You score just enough to win and burn every second off the clock possible while doing so.

 

[AHSDYNASY]

I think Erwin will be alright for this year but they need a win bad against a solid Franklin team this week. They might be the team to beat in the mountains next year with all the juniors they have. But after next year, things aren't looking so good in West Asheville.

 

[AhsCougar1]

Ahsdynasy Erwin has been a year away since 2009. Since 2006-7 they have made a tremendous leap from bottom dweller to competing at a high level and have solidified themselves as the 3rd best team in the Mac. How they play this week against Franklin will be a good measuring stick to what kind of team they really are. I actually think Erwin matches up better with Franklin than we did. Erwin uses their speed in spots where they have mismatches.

 

[LonnieFarmJimmy]

Just wondering. They have been waxed like a cheap surfboard these past two weeks. I know for the longest time they were an easy win like Enka Stinka or N. Buncombe but that changed when they stole one of the Haywood County coaches and have enjoyed some solid seasons of good football. We played them twice in post season and split 1-1. Seems like they might be slipping back into obscurity on the mountain radar. Anyone?

How do you wax a cheap one fin surfboard verses a brand name tri-fin surfboard. SEXWAX from what I was told has melted the same way on any board from January to December

Strange

 

[ceingle]

COUGAR 90: I probably am a little crazy for listening to people who want to belittle everyone but their team. Erwins past is just that, in the past. We have gone from the school everyone wants to schedule for homecoming to the school that a lot of schools fear. Other schools not only will not play us for homecoming but drop us from their opposition at all.(reference to Pisgah-Madison-East Rutherford etc.) Then we have teams that have to play us but down us for the way we get the job done. Line up and run,run,run is all some schools want to do. The Warriors come along with a passing game that can score at anytime from anywhere and they are the villains. It is not the nineteen hundreds anymore. Modern football and great coaches have changed the attitude at Erwin. The joke that Pisgah had about calling Erwin just Er" because they have not learned how to win yet" is over. They are now working on the eighth winning season in a row. I believe but mostly they believe they are winners now. More to come.

 

[BlueVols]

Several things- 1) Erwin didn't steal their present HC from Haywood Co. Rightly or wrongly depending on one's point of view, he was pressured out of here. He has done a superb job turning around an Erwin program that historically wasn't much save for the early 80's. He comes out of that whole Enka-Pisgah Danny Miller cabal. 2) I would say their overall talent level may have dropped a notch. Their last two QB's are/were D2, D1AA athletes and they had a bevy of talented backs and receivers that have graduated. 3) Many area schools have quit scheduling them for non-conference games, that is true. The competition they have scheduled from out of state is pretty tough. It might help them a little more than rolling through a conference schedule that in some weeks wasn't that daunting for them. They are probably still not better than Asheville & Reynolds.

 

[AhsCougar1]

Ceingle. You realize pisgah dropped you guys and played us right? Very unlikely they were "fearful" of Erwin and then go schedule Asheville.

 

[Pisgah Bears]

Ceingle. You realize pisgah dropped you guys and played us right? Very unlikely they were "fearful" of Erwin and then go schedule Asheville.

Agree with you on that.Also think Erwin will start turning their season around this Friday.

 

[artvandelay]

im guessing the coach from haywood county may be travis nolan who really got erwin going toward where they are now. that said he did take one of your all-time players to tuscola when he left erwin

 

[papabear2]

Ceingle. You realize pisgah dropped you guys and played us right? Very unlikely they were "fearful" of Erwin and then go schedule Asheville.

So true Cougar so true

 

[Pisgah Bears]

im guessing the coach from haywood county may be travis nolan who really got erwin going toward where they are now. that said he did take one of your all-time players to tuscola when he left erwin

The coach from Haywood County is the currently coach Sexton .Was an assistant at Pisgah and head coach at Tuscola.He's done a good job at Erwin.

 

[ceingle]

AhsCougar1:You are missing the point. Pisgah could not win if they beat us or lost to us. In their fans minds they are always supposed to beat Erwin. Pisgah generaly is not favored to beat AHS. Pisgah wins either way if they play Asheville WIN OR LOSE. As for the saying that I refered to, yes that saying can be contributed to Travis Noland. He did a great job at Erwin before moving on. Yes he did take John Crompton with him when he left. Football still went on. Travis and the Cromptons are still our friends. Some people come out of college and everything works for them. Then there are coaches that do not travel down that smooth road. Coach Sexton and Coach Tarr have been head coaches at other schools. I don't know their complete history but coming to Erwin and turning the program around has been a blessing to the entire community. They are not quitters and have taught the kids the same. Must be a satisfying feeling to see a program generate success on the scoreboard and with the fine young athletes that go on to the next level. Yes the turnaround starts with Franklin this Friday night.

 

[COUGAR-90]

Ceingle, as I have stated many times, most of us here are glad that Erwin has found success in the last 8 or so years. It's simple math, and no I'm not being sarcastic. The better Erwin becomes, the better Asheville has to be to beat them. The better Reynolds gets, the better Asheville and Erwin have to be to beat them etc.
You and I had a few harsh words last year because you felt that I was disrespecting your team. I asked you back then to point out exactly what disrespectful remarks I had made and you never did. Understand that even though I am and have always been an Asheville fan, I watch kids from all over the MAC from youth league football all the way to the high school level. I like seeing all of them do well, no matter who they play for. And, as I have also often said, when it comes time for playoffs I will cheer for all the MAC teams until we have to play each other. When Asheville plays Erwin every year in conference play I am your enemy for a full 60 minutes. When the game is over it's over. I have nothing but respect for Erwin's players and coaches, period. But at the same time you should understand our viewpoint. Last year when we played the #1 ranked 5A state champions from Tennessee several Erwin posters made the comments that "they weren't impressed because the TN team was composed of slow white kids." Now you're getting a taste of what it's like to play some of those big TN teams and you aren't singing the same song.
My point is this. You yourself have imposed this double standard. Not any of us. You can't have things both ways. I want you to also notice one additional thing. The Warriors have had their butts handed to them twice this year from big TN schools. Not one single Cougar or Rocket fan has come on here making sarcastic or disrespectful statements about the Warriors. See, sometimes you can become so wrapped up in the finger pointing and "disrespect" game that you fail to notice when people are showing your team respect. We could have all laughed and blasted Erwin, but we didn't. I'd like to think it was out of respect.

 

[AhsCougar1]

Very true what you said about the Tennessee teams cougar90. Last year people acted like Knoxville west wasnt all that and were appalled when we cougar fans suggested they would demolish any team in wnc last year. And coincidentally some of the Erwin fans last week were saying "oh nobody in wnc would have come close to beating ootewah". Which is true, but when said it last year everybody thought we were full of s*it

 

[AHSDYNASY]

Ceingle, I don't know of anyone who criticizes Erwin's style of play or coaching. Almost every team in the Mac is in some variation of the spread except for Asheville and McDowell. So I'm not sure what you mean when you say that people down Erwin for throwing the ball a lot.

 

[ceingle]

I never said anything about AHS playing Knox West. I simply stated that Erwin gets no respect no matter what we do. You try to turn my statements around and make me seem like I am complaining about playing good teams from TN. Never have. I simply stated that no matter who Erwin plays, win or lose we get talked bad about. I want teams from WNC to do well in the playoffs too. But dealing with people who want to act like their schools team is the greatest thing since football was invented turns me off. AHS and ACR think that the football world revolves around their teams. If seven years of winning and beating the likes of your teams have not changed your attitude then nothing will. I have not commented on here about any out of state team that we have played. Not one word. When Erwin beat AHS all that I heard was we were" down" that year and that's why we lost. Face it, you lost. Admit it for once and be a man. No excuses. That's what's called a double standard. Sweep off your own doorstep my friend.

 

[AHSDYNASY]

You beat Asheville twice in one season. Erwin was the better team that year. It is also a fact that the only two seasons that Asheville has lost to Erwin in the Wilkins' era(2001&2012) were the two worst seasons record-wise under Wilkins(6-5). For all I know, Erwin may kick our butts this year but as of right now that is the facts. Erwin has had a good 7-8 year run and their staff has done a good job turning it around over there and building excitement in the community. But to say you are on par with Asheville and Reynolds during that time span is a bit of a reach when you only have 1 shared conference title in the last dozen years. Erwin has definitely elevated their program though and they have been one of the top teams in the mountains every year since 2010. They may even be the team to beat in the mountains next year. From what I'm hearing though, after next year Erwin will be back in the middle of the pack for a while.

 

[cqajdd]

I never said anything about AHS playing Knox West. I simply stated that Erwin gets no respect no matter what we do. You try to turn my statements around and make me seem like I am complaining about playing good teams from TN. Never have. I simply stated that no matter who Erwin plays, win or lose we get talked bad about. I want teams from WNC to do well in the playoffs too. But dealing with people who want to act like their schools team is the greatest thing since football was invented turns me off. AHS and ACR think that the football world revolves around their teams. If seven years of winning and beating the likes of your teams have not changed your attitude then nothing will. I have not commented on here about any out of state team that we have played. Not one word. When Erwin beat AHS all that I heard was we were" down" that year and that's why we lost. Face it, you lost. Admit it for once and be a man. No excuses. That's what's called a double standard. Sweep off your own doorstep my friend.

The facts are Erwin is not in the same league as Asheville. Erwin has to earn respect. This is the first they have playeda tough schedule and that why Erwin is1-3. The only game they have was against a team they were supposed to beat. Yes. Erwin is not the old Erwin but they are still learning how to win. Erwin beats Asheville once every7 years.

 

[Billy28804]

When Asheville loses to Enka it's a down year (2012).

 

[ceingle]

cqajdd, Erwin is the only team to put pressure on AHS during that stretch in the conf.. If you remember ACR and TCR were both 4a during part of those years. Leaving Erwin as the only 3a team that AHS had to fight for the conf. championship.

 

[ceingle]

AHSDYNASY: How many teams during this time beat or shared the conf. title with AHS? The Answer is only Erwin. Thanks for giving us some props. We may not have the history that AHS has but don't slow up because EHS is right behind you.