High Point Andrews VS Trinity
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HARRYT I agree with you that Andrews should win easily but wonder why you backed off the score you said you were going with again this week? Think you said 62-7?
I know Andrews put 52 on ER and 51 on Wheatmore who both beat Trinity. Just picking on you. I think your score is right on but I think Andrews may score a little more if they want to.
I know Andrews put 52 on ER and 51 on Wheatmore who both beat Trinity. Just picking on you. I think your score is right on but I think Andrews may score a little more if they want to.
I think after the score gets 38 to 0, they have a running clock, that's what happen when we played Wheatmore, plus we are playing in Trinty.
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Trinity that bad again this year? I saw the Wheatmore/Trinity game, and it looked like they have some skill players that could be a problem. The defense just isn't built for bully football. Wheatmore just pounded the ball when they wanted. Andrews usually has the most skilled and athletic players in this conference, as well as a good defense, with ER and Randleman right behind them. I haven't been able to see much PAC football this year, but what does the future hold for the conf? Will Andrews dominate the next realignment as well?
running clock begins at the 42 point spread and then only the 2nd half....trust me I know this because 7 of Reidsville's 10 wins this year has had a running clock....If some games had it at 38 pts.....they were fudging the actual rule..........................
Andrews should continue to do well in football. The numbers at most teams in the conference cannot come close to them or Randleman. Numbers seem to effect football more than other sports.
As far as realighment only difference will be addition of Jordan Matthews making it a PAC7 I guess. Every now and then ER or Randleman will rise to give Andrews a tussle in football. Other sports are pretty much even across the conference.
After next year you will see Andrews start a downfall. The middle school that supplies Andrew has really went down. They (Welburn) has only 15 Players this year, plus HP Central, Southwest and Southern Guilford have district lines that are depleting Andrews players. Even this year the JV is the worst we have ever had.
If it was't for the Aviation School, Andrews would be 1A.
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Andrews will be 1A unless something changes in the next 8 years or so. Take away the aviation academy and they are already small 2a at this point.
The state missed the boat sadly in the alignment and didn't make some changes that would have made the PAC a much better and competitive conference. Firstly Thomasville was going to be included. Yes they are down this year but they are Thomasville after all. One of the big programs in the state and would have added some name value to the conference. Given some changes they'd be competitive. More so than all the bottom schools. Then they could have added Carver back in from the WPAC or put Walkertown in as they will be 2A. Either 1 of those 2 schools would compete well in that conference.
Instead they went backwards and put Jordan Matthews in for some odd reason. Firstly that hurts the Mid State 2A because they really could have used them due to all the charters being put in and Graham/Cumming's problems to compete. That makes that conference unstable. Secondly it doesn't benefit the PAC at all besides giving HPA/Randleman/and ER another easy win and give the lower schools a chance at another win. JM doesn't even field a JV team either so that's another -. Gonna be the HPA/Randleman/ER show for another 4 years more than likely.
Instead they went backwards and put Jordan Matthews in for some odd reason. Firstly that hurts the Mid State 2A because they really could have used them due to all the charters being put in and Graham/Cumming's problems to compete. That makes that conference unstable. Secondly it doesn't benefit the PAC at all besides giving HPA/Randleman/and ER another easy win and give the lower schools a chance at another win. JM doesn't even field a JV team either so that's another -. Gonna be the HPA/Randleman/ER show for another 4 years more than likely.
That'll be a game changer for sure. For not just HPA but a lot of schools and counties.
The hard part will be figuring where they would go. Not many 1A conferences around there besides the Northwest and the Yadkin Valley. The Northwest would loathe the move because it would be a good haul for all of them and East Surry/Mount Airy in particular have been unhappy the last alignment and this one about playing the Forsyth schools they really wouldn't like that. The YVC would probably be the better fit but Albemarle's struggling and the Montgomery's future is in tango so not much could be left if they get put in there.
They very well may have to make a 2A/1A split out of the PAC or something off the wall.
I would expect a split 1A/2A conference for the Triad at some point if trends continue. Thomasville is headed towards 1A numbers again as well. You likely would have those 2 looped in with the Randolph County crowd again.
I also agree that the folks in the 52 corridor would bitch and moan to avoid having to add another Triad school to their conference for a lot of reasons, not just athletic reasons and we'll leave it PC.
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After looking at the JV standings, I see Randleman (8-0 Ovr 4-0 Pac) and Wheatmore (7-1-1 Ovr. 3-1 Pac) as the best teams. Looks like other JV teams aren't doing so well and JM doesnt have one. Most have their best on Varsity, so there could be some young talent not playing on the JV level. If that's not the case,could this have an effect over the next 4 years?
At ER JV has struggled for wins but have been competitive in most of their games. ER feeder middle school won championship last year (however one of their main threats moved to Randleman and is on JV team this year) and won 3-4 game this year. They should be fine for next few years if they can settle on a QB.
Someone mentioned numbers at Andrews. If you look at ADMs released today Andrews has 984 while ER has 743. I realize those are not all male athletes but does lend credence to my numbers are better in football statement.
Not sure why Thomasville was dropped but seems like JM was added because of less travel maybe? I believe that in previous realignment they were in conference with some of the PAC6 .
Someone mentioned numbers at Andrews. If you look at ADMs released today Andrews has 984 while ER has 743. I realize those are not all male athletes but does lend credence to my numbers are better in football statement.
Not sure why Thomasville was dropped but seems like JM was added because of less travel maybe? I believe that in previous realignment they were in conference with some of the PAC6 .
The reason TV was dropped was becase HPA had a contract to play TV for 4 years and after 2 years with scores of 44 to 6and
41 to 7 they dopped the contract, and said they will never play us again(Andrews) Then they begged off the alignment. I mean really beg!
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Harry isn't our spelling bee champion but what he says is correct. Thomasville committed to home and home for 4 years as both sides agreed it would be good to rekindle an old rivalry. Needless to say they got stomped out like a roach in a crackhouse 2x and decided to pull out of the original agreement.
You guys keep believing what makes you feel good. No doubt you stomped us. But I think we all know the reason. Let's move on.
Tell us the reason OC.....curious to hear your take.
For the record, you guys deciding not to play us is just bad for the local football community. 2 traditional powers of similar size not playing each other makes no sense. It's not the first time you guys stopped playing us. Same thing happened in the 90's. We have a nice little cushion on the overall series between our programs.
For the record, you guys deciding not to play us is just bad for the local football community. 2 traditional powers of similar size not playing each other makes no sense. It's not the first time you guys stopped playing us. Same thing happened in the 90's. We have a nice little cushion on the overall series between our programs.
Had as much to do with events off the field as on. It's been acknowledged many times that Thomasville had several kids who lacked discipline. Sometimes it manifested during football and basketball games. Sometimes it was in the community. All of that has been well documented, including in the press.
Several Andrews posters have talked about the lack of discipline by Andrews players during those same years. But when somebody else mentioned it, the Andrews posters got defensive.
The bottom line is that it wasn't a healthy rivalry. Multiple times it spilled over onto the Thomasville campus. There's a reason the campus now has a fence. You can paint it any way you want, but the score of the games had nothing to do with it. And no, I'm not blaming it all on kids from High Point. There was plenty to go around in both communities.
I'd like to see one press clipping related to the incidents you speak of that include Andrews. I believe you are mistaken in it was Thomasville had issues with High Point Central on the field which led to the cancellation of their series. In both years, post game handshakes led to conflict including players and coaches. There were never conflicts in the games or after between Andrews and Thomasville. The games were intense as you'd expect given the pride and proximity of the schools but there wasn't anything outside the confines of a football game. That's the facts.
The assertation that Thomasville High now has a fence as a direct correlation between Andrews beating them like a dog 2 years in a row is blasphemy and downright shameful. I expected you to say something good like the coach/ad didn't want to schedule teams in non conference that they may see in the playoffs.
The assertation that Thomasville High now has a fence as a direct correlation between Andrews beating them like a dog 2 years in a row is blasphemy and downright shameful. I expected you to say something good like the coach/ad didn't want to schedule teams in non conference that they may see in the playoffs.
Please go back and read the previous post. I said Thomasville's issues were documented in the press. But the incidents of Andrews kids coming onto Thomasville's campus happened. If you have any contacts in the High Point law enforcement community, ask them. You may reassess your facts.
As I said, we all need to move on.
I have many contacts within the Police department and know 100% the issues you speak of involved Central kids, not Andrews kids. Happened the same year of the last football game between you 2 that got ugly with Central coach and dickie cline damn near throwing punches. Thomasville kids always were fine when we played them. And I stand by the fact our kids were respectable to the bulldogs.
Our lack of discipline is specific to football related bonehead plays. Late hits, offsides, delay of game, etc.
Our lack of discipline is specific to football related bonehead plays. Late hits, offsides, delay of game, etc.
Our kids are no saints but the kids and incidents were 100% Central and Thomasville issues. Hell the Thomasville basketball team has still attended the preseason scrimmage/jamboree at Andrews and HPU in recent years.
