Football Playoffs at Bank of America Stadium
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A bunch of states do it but it is mixed from college to NFL stadiums. it would be interesting to see how the NCHSAA sees it since they do get a lot of support from the State Universities. I could see the CLT teams doing it or maybe the semi final games in the area. I am sure the NCHSAA wouldn’t do it that is probably why they have never used ECU as one of the sites doesn’t give that neutral field feeling like it does in the triangle area.
Maybe they should do some of those big games in the Charlotte area rather that memorial stadium as a test.
Maybe they should do some of those big games in the Charlotte area rather that memorial stadium as a test.
I’d be for that! The experience at Memorial Stadium this year was the SUCK! I bet BOA stadium would open more than one gate.
Not sure how I feel about the championship games being there. I was against it earlier in the year, but now hearing that the new owner would welcome these types of games, it may indicate that they’d take them seriously. My one reservation is that parking in uptown Charlotte is terrible. (Memorial Stadium Parkig is no better though.
Not sure how I feel about the championship games being there. I was against it earlier in the year, but now hearing that the new owner would welcome these types of games, it may indicate that they’d take them seriously. My one reservation is that parking in uptown Charlotte is terrible. (Memorial Stadium Parkig is no better though.
Call me the party pooper, but i guess Im just old school. I like the High School Atmosphere... avg. sized college stadiums is good. It is high school though and I bet the kids and most fans would rather play capacity crowdz... Alot more expenses and alot more maintenance... jmo though and I relate to the bigtjme thing too... I remember playing Keenan Stadium and places.and only used a drop in the bucket on one side...not as much fun....then they opened both sides...lol... It just gave me that empty feelin...like I said jmo. Nothin like a capacaty crowd. Bigtime experience though.
Yes I do agree with you on that, the Highschool settings, but as we both know all schools can not hold large crowds one reason why things went neutral. I do agree that the stadiums look 1/4 full at championship games but if the championship was let’s say If teams had to travel of one side of the state to the other the attendance would be one sided.
In Charlotte there does need to be something done with those games at memorial stadium. UNC Charlotte needs to come in place there stadium isn’t as large at the other schools that could be an option. But I am sure the HS kids would enjoy at least playing a game on an NFL field. I know some kids that played on the Giants field and that is all they talked about and there wasn’t but a drop of people there in Dec.
At least someone threw in another option great typic can’t wait to see what happens
Que Tucker said that they would be open to talk to Mr. Tepper but feel like they are in great shape with the 4 venues currently.
There could be 25k fans at a game and it would look empty and wouldn't be very load.
Are you suggesting when a tree falls in an empty forest it doesn't make a sound when it hits the ground? 25K people cheering is just that; 25k people cheering. It would be loud.
No a more confined space would be louder. 25k not going to show up for NC championship game anyway. Myself I wish they would play at some of the smaller college's in the area.
I am not implying 25k would be there, just the point that it would look empty with 25k imagine 10k or less. A lot of space in a big stadium. 15k at RC would sound a lot louder than 15k at BOA stadium.
Using the central georgraphical point that is used for comparisons in this specific item, ECU is 77 miles farther than UNCC is from that same point. ECU is way too far from the center of the state. Ridiculous to consider that as a site for title games. If anything they need to centralize and down size. They did play some of the East Regional title games there and it did not work out very well. When you get two teams that are located very close to one another why have them drive a much greater distance to play.
The parking is great down town near BofA on the weekend. They handle 74,000 for a Panther game on Sunday so there would be no issue with 20,000 or less.
It would be loud but I think there is a difference in the noise when the fans are packed together and breathing on you than when they are spread out.
Largest reported crowd at a game in NC is 18,000. I have been to the biggest rivalries in the state and have not seen probably more than 13,000 although the crowds are often exaggerated. I do think more people would initially come to a title game at BofA because it is an NFL stadium and it would be different. Over time I think it would even out.
I saw what it was like at 2A, 3A, and 4A title games on campus. Worked out great for the home fans but overall was not very good logistically. Also, not a very good look when a team with an undefeated record traveled six or more hours to play a team with losses or even another undefeated. (East and West alternated sites.) I want to see the two teams as evenly matched as possible.
Understand what you are saying and agree. I am sure some will think that many have been to a game at The Rock. As their former AD said to me when I asked if they had ever had 15,000 there, "where would you put them." Fans overestimate crowd sizes.
I feel confident that Monroe and HP Andrews had no more than 2,500 and probably closer to 2,000 at a Friday night title game in Kenan a few years ago.
You are missing the point it isn’t about them playing at ECU this point is planing at a smaller stadium rather than BOA Stadium..To get more of a HS feel. I get the neutral part playing in the Triangle area as I stated. there are several other schools that are smaller and hold about 10-12k people which have a big stadium feel.
As Far as one team driving further than another that happens through out the playoffs so that is really not a point. Again the topic was about playing in BOFA stadium. If that happens every team that makes it east of The Triangle area work have a 3 to 5 hour ride west of Charlotte would be 1-2 hours past Asheville.
Without a doubt, two of the best high school stadiums in North Carolina. They could easily host a state title game or two. For those wondering, Jamieson Stadium is the home of the Grimsley Whirlies (Greensboro), and Simeon Stadium is shared by High Point Central and T.W. Andrews high schools. Deaton-Thompson Stadium in Winston-Salem (Shared by Parkland and R.J. Reynolds high schools) is another one of my favorites, but I do think for a state title weekend, parking would be a problem there.
ECU seats over 50,000. Wake Forest seats 32,000 plus the hill which is really not used in title games. Duke has 41,000 or so seats. UNC will be 51,000 this year not including the few thousand in the Blue (End) Zone which is not used. NC State holds about 56,000. ECU is nearly as big as UNC now and larger than Wake and Duke.
The Triangle is too far east especially NC State. Charlotte is too far west and south. The Triad is the sensible spot. The schools for the Asheville area are in the same situation travel wise to The Triangle as the far east schools are to Charlotte.
UNCC's Richardson Stadium is twelve miles further than NC State from the point the NCHSAA uses as the geograhical center of the state. I think Charlotte is too far but if the title games are in Raleigh, Charlotte should be in the discussion.
If the Panthers want to foot the bill and make it a very special event then BofA makes sense in that regard. The Panthers will have two other facilities as a possibility in the next few years if they locate them in NC. A major league soccer venue that will seat about 25,000 (expected to be down town) and a turf practice stadium that will seat about 15,000 whose location is up in the air and could end up in SC. I think either is probably better than BofA although UNCC should be the main focus if title games are destined for the Charlotte area.
Here is a post I had made about this topic before.
I think they (Simeon and Grimsley) are the perfect size and each have a decent press box, Simeon may be more up to date but not sure. I do not see the 1A schools agreeing to it if the other classifications are not in the rotation. Grimsely would have the gym locker rooms available allowing for four dressing rooms.
My thought has been the 1A playing the week before (with four rounds) in a facility that "fits" the game would give them the attention on "their" Saturday and also have a much better atmosphere. I think Elon is the perfect location and it is a college campus. If they move the other classifications out of the Triad ACC stadiums I think it is very comparable for 1A to them.
I think they (Simeon and Grimsley) are the perfect size and each have a decent press box, Simeon may be more up to date but not sure. I do not see the 1A schools agreeing to it if the other classifications are not in the rotation. Grimsely would have the gym locker rooms available allowing for four dressing rooms.
My thought has been the 1A playing the week before (with four rounds) in a facility that "fits" the game would give them the attention on "their" Saturday and also have a much better atmosphere. I think Elon is the perfect location and it is a college campus. If they move the other classifications out of the Triad ACC stadiums I think it is very comparable for 1A to them.
Another post:
Wake Forest supports the game much better than NC State and UNC. State used to do a good job but it has waned over the years. Duke was terrible previously but will see how they do now.
The biggest negative with Wake Forest is they only have two dressing rooms. Causes issues for teams coming in while the other game is still going on especially when there are three games.
Based on a geographical central point used in the past for this specific item Carter Finley 69 miles drive distance and one hour and four minutes. UNCC is 81 miles and one hour and 15 minutes. They are very close in distance from the center of the state. Kenan Stadium is 49 miles and 53 minutes (farther from the interstate) while Wallace Wade is 50 miles and 48 minutes drive time. Groves Stadium is 32 miles and 34 minutes. If they can play games at NC State then UNCC is not out of question.
I would like to see 1A go to four rounds and play their title games the week before the other three classes. It was presented to the 1A schools but they were against it. Reasoning is they want to be treated the same as the other three classes although that is the class that brought you subdivided playoffs (only 1A in 2001) and the playoff pod system. By removing two games they could do three games on Saturday at two facilities or two games at three stadiums.
I would like to see NC A&T get in the mix but they do not want to commit as their goal is an NCAA FCS home playoff game that weekend. The NCHSAA is concerned with that also but it is a very remote possibility and I think there could be a contingency plan. Shrine Bowl had one for Wofford when they came up just short of hosting a home game the weekend of the Shrine Bowl.
Elon may be feasible for the 1A games. Home side is about perfect but the visitor side is about too small. For just one game it is probably more than adequate (referencing specifically the visitor side but the stadium as a whole, also) but the overflow of the second game during the prior game would be an issue. Due to this they would need to spread the games out more and this would be the spot to only play two games on the same day or include a Friday game as well.
With the current setup I would like to see two sites have a Friday game and two on Saturday with one other site having two on Saturday. Have start times spread out to take care of locker room, parking, and entry/exit concerns. I prefer Wake and UNCC with Elon and A&T alternating in some form and the other being the backup facility.
Wake Forest supports the game much better than NC State and UNC. State used to do a good job but it has waned over the years. Duke was terrible previously but will see how they do now.
The biggest negative with Wake Forest is they only have two dressing rooms. Causes issues for teams coming in while the other game is still going on especially when there are three games.
Based on a geographical central point used in the past for this specific item Carter Finley 69 miles drive distance and one hour and four minutes. UNCC is 81 miles and one hour and 15 minutes. They are very close in distance from the center of the state. Kenan Stadium is 49 miles and 53 minutes (farther from the interstate) while Wallace Wade is 50 miles and 48 minutes drive time. Groves Stadium is 32 miles and 34 minutes. If they can play games at NC State then UNCC is not out of question.
I would like to see 1A go to four rounds and play their title games the week before the other three classes. It was presented to the 1A schools but they were against it. Reasoning is they want to be treated the same as the other three classes although that is the class that brought you subdivided playoffs (only 1A in 2001) and the playoff pod system. By removing two games they could do three games on Saturday at two facilities or two games at three stadiums.
I would like to see NC A&T get in the mix but they do not want to commit as their goal is an NCAA FCS home playoff game that weekend. The NCHSAA is concerned with that also but it is a very remote possibility and I think there could be a contingency plan. Shrine Bowl had one for Wofford when they came up just short of hosting a home game the weekend of the Shrine Bowl.
Elon may be feasible for the 1A games. Home side is about perfect but the visitor side is about too small. For just one game it is probably more than adequate (referencing specifically the visitor side but the stadium as a whole, also) but the overflow of the second game during the prior game would be an issue. Due to this they would need to spread the games out more and this would be the spot to only play two games on the same day or include a Friday game as well.
With the current setup I would like to see two sites have a Friday game and two on Saturday with one other site having two on Saturday. Have start times spread out to take care of locker room, parking, and entry/exit concerns. I prefer Wake and UNCC with Elon and A&T alternating in some form and the other being the backup facility.
I have pitched Jamieson and Simeon as a potential site for the 1A games. D-T is probably not as viable but a good high school stadium.
BofA could work if they did all the hosting all the games would have to start on Thursday with smaller schools then Friday and most games on Saturday. That is pretty much how they do it when HS use NFL stadiums for championships so everyone gets the experience.
Cannot play eight games at one site in three days without it being a complete logistical cluster. Did four on Saturday at Kenan in 2001. Terrible. First game at 11am. A game scheduled every three hours but you cannot do the game, the award presentation, and any warmup in that time. Would need to play multiple games on school days, Thursday and Friday. If they play eight games in three or four days the field could be an issue especially if the weather goes bad. Best bet is to alternate. Would need to ensure away game fir Panthers on that Sunday.
Actually it is pretty easy 2 games on Thursday starting at 5 next one at 8
2 games on Friday same time
4 games on Saturday starting at 10, 1, 4, and 7 they do it on NJ at Met life all the time. They have have even more schools then NC and make it happen, I would look at other states That has been doing it for years . 1a/aa gets Thursday 2a/aa gets Friday 3A/aa 4A/aa gets Saturday.
I know we look for that neutral location but if the NFL jumps in the experience is what matters they already reward HS coaches of the year. 3 days is a drop in the bucket for them especially if they would help with some of the logistics.
Playing games on a Thursday night is a sure fire way to take anything special out of championship weekend. Students can’t go. Parents can’t always go. Most of the interested general public isn’t going to go until Friday. Take a Saturday crowd, divide in half, then half again... that’s what you’ll get in attendance on a Thursday night. Traffic sucks on a Thursday or Friday evening.
First, never use New Jersey as an example. Their classifications and state playoff setup are absolutely horrid!
Sorry, but high school games take close to three hours not to mention state title games have a slightly longer half time. They have also been live TV games in the recent years adding additional time (that is hit n miss now with Time Warner out of it). With that schedule the teams are rushed off the field which is fine for me but it hurts the experience. As I wrote, 2001 was a four game Saturday and it was not well received by the participating teams.
NC played a 2A state title game on Thursday pre subdividing. Bad response from all involved. NCHSAA stated it would not happen again. Shelby felt it hurt their following and was bad for fans and students.
A normal trip from Thomasville to Charlotte airport is about an hour and fifteen minutes. A recent return trip took me three hours. And that was on a Sunday. The traffic on the other side heading south was a parking lot for six miles. Throw in rush hour traffic during the week and that alone is reason enough to avoid playoffs in Charlotte.
Until they complete the construction projects in a thirty mile radius of Charlotte, traffic will always be a bear. And since those projects have been ongoing for ten years, it’s not gonna change soon.
Add in all the other obstacles and I don’t think this will ever happen. But it is the NCHSAA so logic isn’t necessarily part of the equation.
That's whats wrong with NCHSAA Que Tucker she needs to be replaced the sport needs to grow and playing at Bank of America Stadium will help.
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