Does Swain Co. ever win another State championship in 1AA?
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East Surry will fall back to earth eventually. I think their run will be short lived. They'll be back to normal. The next realignment could be change some things but who knows.
Please folks, we are 8-2 with tough losses to two quality teams. Tarboro won’t be loaded forever and the same for East. Swain will always be looking to be in the hunt. Sometimes that’s the best you can do. But we do have one AA title with two trips to the finals. Better that the other 1AA school did before they dropped down from the SMC! And who know how long Swain will stay up in 1AA. Economics for the county are hurting with Con Met shouting down. I say with in five yrs we’ll be barely at the five hundred mark. And with new schools being added to the system and talk of realignment to 5A who can honestly guess what tomorrow may bring. Right now I’d be laughing my tail off if folks take this yrs bunch to lightly.
Swain should open a early college so they can drop down. Its helped others win titles.
Are you saying that school districts are intentionally creating these schools in order to create 1A football dynasties?
BK sometimes I feel you have way too much free time on your hands, today is one of those days....
Isn't Swain one of the 3 counties that feed tri county early college?
You know what else is a big advantage? Being the only school in a tiny county that only has bear hunting and high school football as things going on. Everybody has inherent advantages, just some are more obvious than others.
Only 2 counties feed tri county early college
Clay and Cherokee county
Clay and Cherokee county
No.
Im saying its a huge advantage.
Alot of murphy fans agree.
Anytime your enrollment goes way down without affecting your number of athletes its an advantage.
I dont think anyone is accusing anybody of anything. With that said, if there was not a Tricounty Early College with approx 150 students or an Oaks Academy with around 50, thats 200 more kids would potentially be at Murphy High School. That could drastically change their ADM and their classification as 1A. All of the other school districts numbers in the conference more accurately depict the number of people that actually live in their areas. Not saying its wrong or illegal, it just is what it is.
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It really seems based on the numbers that a lot of small schools are getting smaller. It's just the nature of how schooling goes today.
Nope it's a loop hole in the rules that most schools above little 1a take advantage of, all the way to the 4AA level.
lol no it isnt. Hiwassee Dam, Andrews and Hayesville all feed Tri County. Andrews and Hiwassee Dam also feed Oaks. Let's say 40% of all those kids are originally from Murphy's district, they'd still have less students than Swain.
If you think Oaks is some kind of advantage for Murphy over those kids actually being at Murphy High you're wrong. Year to year some of the best athletes in the county are at Oaks. I'm quite sure Murphy's coaches would much rather have them at Murphy High and eligible to play, than not, even if it means being 1AA.
If you factored in all the early college kids from Murphy district, I'm willing to bet they would still have around 80 less kids at the high school than they did 15 years ago. So for BK to say Murphy's enrollment has changed, but the athlete pool hasn't is patently false. 80 kids, that's roughly 40 males. You exclude freshman that's 30. Let's be somewhat conservative and say only 15% of those 30 are legitimate athletes, that's still 4-5 more potential starters for Murphy's varsity than they have now. Odds are good 1 or 2 of them are difference makers. That certainly sounds to me like the athlete pool is different than it was.
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So what about Alleghany, Ashe, Madison, and Hayesville? Being the lone wolf doesn't seem to work for them.
I think you just sort of proved his point. If you took those 80 ( which is probably fairly accurate) kids and added them to the 466, that would put Murphy at 546. Murphy still might still be smaller than Swain, but would much larger than the smallest school in the 1AA. If it were not for TCEC and the Oaks, Murphy would not be in the 1A bracket for playoffs. Not saying its wrong, but again, it is what it is. Its not a matter of how many athletes you have, we all have athletes, its not about males and females, we all have them. Its not about freshman, we all count them. Its not about ineligible players, we all have those too. Its strictly about an accurate depiction of enrollment
On a side note, 1-2 big play makers can make a huge difference in 1A football.....
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He said Murphy's enrollment has changed but the athlete pool hasn't, i'm saying thats not true and provided numbers based evidence. I don't care about the other parts of it because it's already been hashed over 100 times before on here.
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Stanly County now allows community college EC students and alternative school students to play at their home school. AHS went from 380 on campus to 435 with their off campus students added.
I'm glad counties are allowing these kids to play sports at their home school. We have to remember in education we have to do what's best for the kids and a kid shouldn't be told they can't play a sport just because they choose to take advantage of an awesome opportunity and program with an early college.
And even if Swain was in the 1a bracket and Murphy was in the 1aa, they have already lost to Murphy and Robbinsville. Kind of a moot point till Swain wins the conference. Robbinsville is going small 1a, that’s a given. Murphy teeters.
Im kinda new so Ive not hashed anything hundreds of times, but again on a side note, 1-2 playmakers as you say can make a huge difference in 1A football. I would hate for someone to take out two of our best players and think we would be the same team....
Tri County Early College has it's own sport program. Those kids "home school" is Tri County Early College, as the school itself is located on the campus of the community college.
That still keeps them well below the threshold. It would not be the case in Murphy. Again Im not complaining, but it is what it is.
Why is this on “will Swain win a 1aa championship again post”? This should be a “ will Robbinsville win a 1a state championship while Murphy is in 1a as long as Murphy has EC kids?” I personally think they do this year.
Lol, I don’t cause Mitchell is a Murphy. Don’t know yr to yr where we’ll be.
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