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All time? Please...when 2A schools like Shelby can compete, it's hard to say the best of all time. As a crest fan however, I would love to see ACR on the schedule every year...I would also love to see TCR destroyed and a toilet placed on its remains...but we don't always get what we want. The 1999 ACR team was one of the best, that's something to be proud of. ACR has what? 3 state titles? That's something to be proud of. But don't go looking to compare to the shelbys, (and yes, Shelby can and has competed with 4A schools and won) of NC. No school can claim complete dominance...and if they could? What fun would it be? Just enjoy each season as it comes, and be thankful that when ACR rolls into certain stadiums the teams and fans start sweating and worrying...unlike Enka...or TCR...or RS Central.
lol... poor TCR, at least they're awesome at baseball and the country club sports, even more so now that they're moving back down to 3A.I would also love to see TCR destroyed and a toilet placed on its remains...but we don't always get what we want.
No school can claim complete dominance...and if they could? What fun would it be?
One can....
"There are no other high school football programs in the state, and only a select few in the entire nation, that have earned the right of being defined as a "dynasty" more than the Shelby Golden Lions. Year in and year out, for more than a century now, the Golden Lions have been the most dominant football force in the State of North Carolina."
www.shelbyhighfootball.com
And, it's a lot of fun!!!
Louisiana is tough?during the last 4 state championship run Shelby has had...how many of those runs were undefeated? One...there are several teams all over the country that has as many state titles as Shelby if not more. Shelby has the most wins in the state blah blah blah, who's to say if Crest wasn't built when Abraham Lincoln was president how many state titles crest could have. How many of those Shelby championship teams could take on the 4AA champion and win? (We'll never know) is the correct answer...and there for makes your argument invalid. If you want to shut up the doubters and truly claim dominance, then it's time for the lions to nut up or shut up...send them Texas, Florida, Louisiana....etc etc
Louisiana is tough?
during the last 4 state championship run Shelby has had...how many of those runs were undefeated? One...there are several teams all over the country that has as many state titles as Shelby if not more. Shelby has the most wins in the state blah blah blah, who's to say if Crest wasn't built when Abraham Lincoln was president how many state titles crest could have. How many of those Shelby championship teams could take on the 4AA champion and win? (We'll never know) is the correct answer...and there for makes your argument invalid. If you want to shut up the doubters and truly claim dominance, then it's time for the lions to nut up or shut up...send them Texas, Florida, Louisiana....etc etc
How does Crest match up to the high elite programs in 2017?......I know Crest only made it to the 2nd round last year against West Rowan(What happened?).Oh poor Crestie...I thought you understood football...undefeated? An undefeated run is as much a function of your talent as it is who you play. When you constantly play up one or two classifications, you're probably not gonna be undefeated year in and year out. That is why classifications exist. Imagine North Dakota State competing against the likes of Clemson and Alabama....would they be undefeated? Nope but would they be one of the most dominant football forces in the land well National Championships in '11, '12, '13, '14, and '15 say yes! Again, this is why classes exist...to make the competition fair. But from time to time you do have an App State vs Michigan scenario.
It is ok to be jealous....you guys always have been....and again, that's ok. I have an uncle who played for Shelby in the late 70s go to a Texas high school football game a couple years ago....one of the better and bigger Texas high schools....when he was down that way. He said Crest or Shelby could have easily handled them. He's a pretty good judge of talent.
We'll see what happens in September....
How does Crest match up to the high elite programs in 2017?......I know Crest only made it to the 2nd round last year against West Rowan(What happened?).
Are they King this year or have too many graduated?
Oh poor Crestie...I thought you understood football...undefeated? An undefeated run is as much a function of your talent as it is who you play. When you constantly play up one or two classifications, you're probably not gonna be undefeated year in and year out. That is why classifications exist. Imagine North Dakota State competing against the likes of Clemson and Alabama....would they be undefeated? Nope but would they be one of the most dominant football forces in the land well National Championships in '11, '12, '13, '14, and '15 say yes! Again, this is why classes exist...to make the competition fair. But from time to time you do have an App State vs Michigan scenario.
It is ok to be jealous....you guys always have been....and again, that's ok. I have an uncle who played for Shelby in the late 70s go to a Texas high school football game a couple years ago....one of the better and bigger Texas high schools....when he was down that way. He said Crest or Shelby could have easily handled them. He's a pretty good judge of talent.
We'll see what happens in September....
Okay...classification makes it fair...agreed...Then how in the world is Shelby the greatest program in NC? They might be...but WE WILL NEVER KNOW. The only thing I can give Shelby absolute credit for is that they are the best program in NC in 2A history...but in all classifications? Whose to with 4A numbers, that Shelby would still have defeated the independence, butlers, Richmonds, mallard creeks of NC? Again...WE'LL NEVER KNOW
Oh poor Crestie...I thought you understood football...undefeated? An undefeated run is as much a function of your talent as it is who you play. When you constantly play up one or two classifications, you're probably not gonna be undefeated year in and year out. That is why classifications exist. Imagine North Dakota State competing against the likes of Clemson and Alabama....would they be undefeated? Nope but would they be one of the most dominant football forces in the land well National Championships in '11, '12, '13, '14, and '15 say yes! Again, this is why classes exist...to make the competition fair. But from time to time you do have an App State vs Michigan scenario.
It is ok to be jealous....you guys always have been....and again, that's ok. I have an uncle who played for Shelby in the late 70s go to a Texas high school football game a couple years ago....one of the better and bigger Texas high schools....when he was down that way. He said Crest or Shelby could have easily handled them. He's a pretty good judge of talent.
We'll see what happens in September....
Okay...classification makes it fair...agreed...Then how in the world is Shelby the greatest program in NC? They might be...but WE WILL NEVER KNOW. The only thing I can give Shelby absolute credit for is that they are the best program in NC in 2A history...but in all classifications? Whose to with 4A numbers, that Shelby would still have defeated the independence, butlers, Richmonds, mallard creeks of NC? Again...WE'LL NEVER KNOW
I have family that play in Texas.. which classification are you referring to? Which big name Texas school are you referring to? I've seen more than a few Texas games. There is no way either would compete in 4A-6A in Texas. Some of those schools have entire defenses that go to Div I. Talent wise, there are whole conferences with 4 Mallard Creeks, a Byrnes, and a Butler in the same conference. At least be specific with your outrageous claims.
Solid Texas teams in recent years, moreso College Station which has been more consistent, but neither is considered a Texas powerhouse. Their enrollments are probably in the 2,500 range and they are 5A. That area is about 1.5 hours NW of downtown Houston. Those are the best options for a Friday night game if in town to watch A&M. Best high school football in Texas is about 3 plus hours north in the Metroplex and the Houston metro area closing in.
Solid Texas teams in recent years, moreso College Station which has been more consistent, but neither is considered a Texas powerhouse. Their enrollments are probably in the 2,500 range and they are 5A. That area is about 1.5 hours NW of downtown Houston. Those are the best options for a Friday night game if in town to watch A&M. Best high school football in Texas is about 3 plus hours north in the Metroplex and the Houston metro area closing in.
He was visiting with some business partners (I believe, maybe some friends) there and one of the guy's sons was a D1 recruit for one of those teams. He said the whole time he was sitting there watching he was thinking to himself Shelby or Crest could easily beat these teams. He said "They get all the hype but not as good a ball at least in the game I saw".
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Houston metro is expected to make alot of noise in 2017, especially the Katy area with Katy(usual suspect), Cinco Ranch, Katy-Taylor, and one of the Cypress schools(can't remember the full name, there were a few of them).
Houston metro has picked it up again recently. Katy is loaded up most years. Pearland is another big power in the Houston suburbs as is The Woodlands, North Shore, and Manvel. That is the difference, there best may not be that much better than the best in several states but the depth of really good teams in Texas is astounding.
Yeah Texas is some football religious folks................never been but heard great things about the hype and truth.I have family that play in Texas.. which classification are you referring to? Which big name Texas school are you referring to? I've seen more than a few Texas games. There is no way either would compete in 4A-6A in Texas. Some of those schools have entire defenses that go to Div I. Talent wise, there are whole conferences with 4 Mallard Creeks, a Byrnes, and a Butler in the same conference. At least be specific with your outrageous claims.