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Battle of Forsyth

Who wins

  • East forsyth

    Votes: 14 70.0%
  • West Forsyth

    Votes: 6 30.0%

  • Total voters
    20
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East Forsyth At West Forsyth.

Interesting fact these two bring a party. By that I mean these two pack stadiums and for this game historically home field advantage has been huge. While East forsyth has won three of the last four matchups. East forsyth will hit the road and travel to a sold out stadium. I honestly think this is a toss up and not really sure who wins.
 
Yes: toss up! But I'll take West Forsyth in an 1pt upset. That defense is straight nasty. It's all about containing East Forsyth's RB Beal who has punished West the past 3 games; East Forsyth graduation loss of QB Noah Smith & Nique Martin was much more significant that many thought.

West Forsyth's Defensive stats KJ Henry, Jaquan McMillion$ & company have been awesome. Henry was unblockable last night.... East Forsyth must stop West RB Marcus Caldwell who has 6 TD's already on limited carries. Madison Cone & his defense will be tested. I found the Walkertown head coach newspaper comments about West Forsyth very intriguing...gave up only 33 total yards & 4 first downs(2 by penalties) He likes West and believes they are much better than last year.

The kicking game favors West Forsyth veterans Harkey has 45yd+ FG's and Punter Zach Brinkley booms nearly every punt. East Forsyth has a great kicker too.... Not sure about the punter; expect a low scoring type of game. Special teams & turnovers will be crucial.
 
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East forsyth had a 50 yard field goal last night and one of the best kickers in the piedmont triad 4a. Keep in mind they played walkertown. I'm sure West destroyed them statistically because they are a 2a school.

I also really hope they test Madison cone. Last year in the playoffs they said they didn't care about Madison cone and would throw to his side. He picked off the first play from scrimmage. All these same guys where on the team last year and east stopped everything they had going and I'm gonna take East.
 
After seeing EF in the NewBridge Jamboree, I'm going with them. The offensive line was huge and athletic, and the one QB could throw it. Athletes all over the field.

I must admit I haven't seen WF play since last year. I gotta ask though, isn't Caldwell on about his 6th year of eligibility? It seems like he has been good for a long time. Am I confusing him with an older brother?
 
From what I gather East is much like ACR at least offensively. I hate to be the guy with the bad news but if ACR can get 4-8 yards on average on a run play. That's gonna spell bad news for west, with respect for the Charlotte schools (not including them) East has one of the biggest offensive lines around, a top running back and TWo QB's one that can run (ACR) and one that can pass (Walkertown). I mean If ACR can do that, leaves me curious about how bad the eagles are gonna be able to run.

Plus walkertown was for the most part walking routes and accepted a defeat before getting out of bed this morning. A lot of the walkertown passes would have been completed if the receivers were playing to win.


Also, just a few quick highlights I saw the West QB a few times just see a semi open receiver, didn't read the field and threw it in to double coverage. You can't do that against the eagles, Madison cone (Wisconsin commit) Khalid Martin (MaxPreps all American) and Brandon Tate (15+ career interceptions are all waiting in the back field and this will be This west QB's biggest challange of his career so far.

I just think the fact ACR was able to run up and down the field is gonna be a major key and east is definitely gonna try and run it down the throats of west
 
AC Reynolds got 135 total yards and scored thier only points of the game on the last play of the game after West called the dogs off. BTW, only points scored n West in 2016. Not sure where you get those numbers.
Anyway, I found it interesting that Christian Beal only carried it 5 times this past week and Marcus Caldwell only 7 carries. I don't think they are hurt, I know Caldwell is 100% both coaches definately saving their RB's. Both were used significantly in the passing game.

6 Big time D-1 players in this game:
West Forsyth:
DE KJ Henry 6 Stars according to 247 Sports(50+ offers)
RB Marcus Caldwell(Tennessee & UNC)
DB Jaquan McMillion$(Wake Forest offered him last year as a starting freshman) he's incredible! watch #3 who has 2ints and a punt return this year as a Soph and will get plenty more offers.

East Forsyth:
RB Christian Beal(Wake Forest) He has owned West Forsyth
SS Khalid Martin(Wake Forest, Illinois & Wisconsin)
DB Madison Cone(Wisconsin) has owned West Forsyth too... Look for Madison to possibly have a change of heart and stay closer to home and decommit from Wisconsin. Yep, I just let that rumor out... Just saying from what I've heard; however, I have no real facts of that situation. When asked in a news video by wxii, he had some serious hesitation when Spivey ask him about Wisconsin. But hey,...body language is NOT facts so let's see where he goes. He may attend Wisconsin but other schools can still recruit him until he signs. It's hard to leave the local girlfriend & family. Just saying
 
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'By the way, only points scored against West in 2016'

Well no duh, they've played two games and walkertown is a 1a school. You SHOULD be shutting them out lol!
 
AC Reynolds got 135 total yards and scored thier only points of the game on the last play of the game after West called the dogs off. BTW, only points scored n West in 2016. Not sure where you get those numbers.
Anyway, I found it interesting that Christian Beal only carried it 5 times this past week and Marcus Caldwell only 7 carries. I don't think they are hurt, I know Caldwell is 100% both coaches definately saving their RB's. Both were used significantly in the passing game.

Big time D-1 players in this game:
West Forsyth:
KJ Henry 5 Stars according to 247 Sports(50+ offers)
Marcus Caldwell(Tennessee & UNC)
JaQuan McMillion$(Wake Forest offered him last year as a starting freshman) he's incredible! watch #3 who has 2ints and a punt return this year as a Soph and will get plenty more offers.

East Forsyth:
Christian Beal(Wake Forest) He has owned West Forsyth
Madison Cone(Wisconsin) He has owned West Forsyth too... Look for Madison to possibly have a change of heart and stay closer to home and decommit from Wisconsin. Yep, I just let that rumor out... Just saying from what I've heard; however, I have no real facts of that situation.


Madison has no plans of decommiting, he is 100% Wisconsin and is already getting the papers right to graduate early and be up their in January. Your story was switched it was Christian beal who wanted to decommit for Syracuse but was talked out of it to stay at wake.

End of the day their is some major holes in the West OL, and even though ACR couldn't score in the redzone I watched their QB and RB march down the field and have decent run plays and I hate to break it to you if the ACR team can run the ball, East Forsyth with the better RB, better running QB and better OL can do the same.

The defense is strong sure, but I watched walkertown highlights on MaxPreps of them blocking KJ Henrey. I think against the people they have played sure they look good but against East Forsyth think east beats them.
 
Say a feller walked into the Honder place, Mister Honder, accompanied by his fair to midlin' moped, lookin' to what one might say, " trade up. " I will say that sometimes the dark blue moped smokes, and if going up a hill, it will stutter step a tad, and on occasion, it leaks gasoline on the operator's lower leg. Please don't perceive this as more internet bullshyt, Mister Honder, but how much would you allow a feller on that moped, and I could also throw another moped into the hat that had a mishap with a yield sign the other day and is currently inoperable slash ain't runnin'. Please round to the nearest thousand, Sir.
P.S. East Forsyth by a landslide.
 
AC Reynolds got 135 total yards and scored thier only points of the game on the last play of the game after West called the dogs off. BTW, only points scored n West in 2016. Not sure where you get those numbers.
Anyway, I found it interesting that Christian Beal only carried it 5 times this past week and Marcus Caldwell only 7 carries. I don't think they are hurt, I know Caldwell is 100% both coaches definately saving their RB's. Both were used significantly in the passing game.

Big time D-1 players in this game:
West Forsyth:
KJ Henry 5 Stars according to 247 Sports(50+ offers)
Marcus Caldwell(Tennessee & UNC)
JaQuan McMillion$(Wake Forest offered him last year as a starting freshman) he's incredible! watch #3 who has 2ints and a punt return this year as a Soph and will get plenty more offers.

East Forsyth:
Christian Beal(Wake Forest) He has owned West Forsyth
Madison Cone(Wisconsin) He has owned West Forsyth too... Look for Madison to possibly have a change of heart and stay closer to home and decommit from Wisconsin. Yep, I just let that rumor out... Just saying from what I've heard; however, I have no real facts of that situation.

How do Underclassmen already have offers? Kinda against NCAA rules for coaches to speak to them until their juniors, kinda hard to have offers when you can't speak?

Would hate to see a kids eligibility messed up bc someone decided to boast the wrong thing...
 
How do Underclassmen already have offers? Kinda against NCAA rules for coaches to speak to them until their juniors, kinda hard to have offers when you can't speak?

Would hate to see a kids eligibility messed up bc someone decided to boast the wrong thing...
What are you talking about? College coaches can talk to kids no matter what grade they're in. What happens when kids go to the College camps? Do they not talk to them while they're on Campus for sometimes for a few days? You are misinformed...there have been kids in middle school get offers from Power 5 teams. The East Forsyth safety had 5 or 6 offers from Power 5 schools before his Freshman year was over. I think the West Forsyth kid had offers his Freshman year too. They watch film on kids then call their HS Coaches and say "Hey we would like to offer this kid" NW Guilford receiver Cam Cloud had a UVA and Elon offer before he was even in High School.
 
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What are you talking about? College coaches can talk to kids no matter what grade they're in. What happens when kids go to the College camps? Do they not talk to them while they're on Campus for sometimes for a few days? You are misinformed...there have been kids in middle school get offers from Power 5 teams. The East Forsyth safety had 5 or 6 offers from Power 5 schools before his Freshman year was over. I think the West Forsyth kid had offers his Freshman year too. They watch film on kids then call their HS Coaches and say "Hey we would like to offer this kid" NW Guilford receiver Cam Cloud had a UVA and Elon offer before he was even in High School.

http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2011/12/13/ncaa-rules-contacting-college-coaches.htm

Coaches can contact coaches but not kids.

Camps are obviously treated different.

http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/resources/recruiting-calendars

http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2014/10/23/ncaa-rules-loopholes-for-contacting-coaches.htm

http://www.ncsasports.org/how-do-yo...unication-college-coaches-when-can-division-1

When will I start hearing from coaches?

You won’t see any official “recruiting materials” from NCAA Division I and II schools in the mail before the summer of your junior year. And that’s because coaches at these levels can’t send specific recruiting literature until then. (Note: Division III and NAIA coaches can sent recruiting materials at any time in high school.)

But that doesn’t mean the recruiting process doesn’t start until junior year. Coaches can send you the following at any time in high school:

  • Questionnaires
  • Camp brochures
  • General college information from the admissions department
http://www.aaaa-sa.org/College PDF/NCAA Recruiting Regulations.pdf


Maybe I've read it wrong...
 
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The thing is, your West Forsyth QB has never thrown against a top DB. He went against JV and has two games under his belt. Friday if he chooses to throw the ball, he is looking at Madison cone at the left side(d1) Khalid Martin middle (d1) and Brandon Tate on the right who has over 20 interceptions in his career and could be d1 with better grades. It's not any old defense around forsyth county. Statistically Mount Tabor went 8/35 for passing. So if your West Forsyth you are forced to run the ball and the west 5'10 165 QB can't run outside like he is used too because the east Forsyth ends are athletic,skinny and strong. West will be forced to run right down the middle against two defensive tackles who have started on varsity for almost three years now. There really isn't a situation where the West offense is able to score here.

East offense will be able to run right down the middle of the field just like ACR did except better and faster not to mention behind a more powerful OL. East by two touchdowns in a low scoring game since East and west will run the ball a lot and will take out the clock while they do so
 
The thing is, your West Forsyth QB has never thrown against a top DB. He went against JV and has two games under his belt. Friday if he chooses to throw the ball, he is looking at Madison cone at the left side(d1) Khalid Martin middle (d1) and Brandon Tate on the right who has over 20 interceptions in his career and could be d1 with better grades. It's not any old defense around forsyth county. Statistically Mount Tabor went 8/35 for passing. So if your West Forsyth you are forced to run the ball and the west 5'10 165 QB can't run outside like he is used too because the east Forsyth ends are athletic,skinny and strong. West will be forced to run right down the middle against two defensive tackles who have started on varsity for almost three years now. There really isn't a situation where the West offense is able to score here.

East offense will be able to run right down the middle of the field just like ACR did except better and faster not to mention behind a more powerful OL. East by two touchdowns in a low scoring game since East and west will run the ball a lot and will take out the clock while they do so
How many passes did Mt. Tabor drop that was in the old bread basket?
 
Did BlackKnightNut give me a "well duh" when talking about schedule because they are the ones who play the sisters of Davidson County every year! C'mon man!... Enjoy 2A next year. It will be the same schedule you've always played.

As far as the CPC *UpGrade* Welcome East Forsyth & Glenn to the CPC.
 
CPC4Life.....the schedules are also about gate, travel, revenue, etc and that has to be kept in mind. Not sure which schedule you are looking at as we only play 2 Davidson Co schools and they are rivalry games (Ledford (3A) and Lexington (2A)). I don't think the schedule ND plays prior to conference hurts us, it hasn't shown up in the conference record if it does hurt us. If not for a few Reagan games, ND has done extremely well in the CPC the last 2 years and very well overall the last 5 years. This past year in the playoffs, we beat Scotland at their place (which doesn't happen very often) and I promise you the Charlotte Catholic game was a lot closer than most would admit. Playing C Christian this year at their place is no "sister of Davidson Co" game. Pretty sure that will be both a test and a great game! Just my opinion.....
 
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Did BlackKnightNut give me a "well duh" when talking about schedule because they are the ones who play the sisters of Davidson County every year! C'mon man!... Enjoy 2A next year. It will be the same schedule you've always played.

As far as the CPC *UpGrade* Welcome East Forsyth & Glenn to the CPC.

Lol, West Forsyth is the biggest school in the CPC and still falls on their face just about every year to my LITTLE SCHOOL!!! So put that in your pipe and smoke it! If North had over 2000 students we would be far better than West is haha! We beat you anyway, being a borderline 3A school! So get over yourselves!

There are no 1A schools on our sched, just 3A teams, 4A teams, and a Private School Powerhouse! So check your facts, troll!
 
Oh, pardon me. I forgot about Lexington. That game goes back to 1965, and they have quite a few state titles under their belt, something west has never done. What's the excuse for walkertown?
 
Other fans please forgive me, but CPC has a tendency to post untrue so called facts, when its usually just rumors and hearsay when you do a little digging talking to coaches that I know personally.
 
Oh, pardon me. I forgot about Lexington. That game goes back to 1965, and they have quite a few state titles under their belt, something west has never done. What's the excuse for walkertown?
It has been probably close to 25 years since Lexington was relevant. But I do understand rivalry games.
 
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Did BlackKnightNut give me a "well duh" when talking about schedule because they are the ones who play the sisters of Davidson County every year! C'mon man!... Enjoy 2A next year. It will be the same schedule you've always played.

As far as the CPC *UpGrade* Welcome East Forsyth & Glenn to the CPC.

All I can say is 'scoreboard'. The little school from Davidson County has beat WF 5 of the last 6 years. And that is after CPC4Life comes on here predicting a state championship for them every year. And also without the open enrollment that every other CPC school enjoys.
 
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by the way blackknightnuts and M193, I just wonder if North Davidson has been in State Championship game in 4A class in past 30 years??? West Forsyth play in a barn burner against the MIGHTY Richmond High back in 1990. That was a heartbreaker for WF for sure. The recievier for Richmond only had one catch the whole year and that was the last play of the game in State Championship. Yep WF was that CLOSE from winning it all. Richmond won three in a row at that point and they were the CLASS of 4A at that time. I think the final score was 9-7

That is better than what ND has done eh? Yes, for past 5 or 6 years, ND has upper hand in head to head game. ND still haven't been in 4A final and by next year, it won't be due to new school near by. This is your last year (chance)! By the way, WF crosstown rival East Forsyth won it all in 1992 in another exciting game at Chapel Hill.

Blackknightnut and M193...I must say WF, Davie Co, Lexington, Thomasville, and even Parkland can say they had been in State Final. Heck, Lexington, Thomasville, and Parkland won it all. That is something that ND could NOT say. Yes Most of us remember past five to ten years at the most but for some of those football fanatics, history is something to build on. Look at those football schools across the state, they have proud history of winning state championship in those four classes. Mallard Creek and Butler are only two I can think of that has short history of football as of now. I think both of those schools have less than 15 years. Butler is older than MC. They have won some titles already due to Charlotte demographics.
 
No matter what classification, North has a better history than west forsyth and has won titles as a 2a and 3a school in 66 and 75. No, we have not been in a 4a title game but who the heck brags about losing a title game lol? Losing is losing, and west has lost more to north recently no matter what your nitpick is, mactaz. North has also always been one of the smallest schools in 4a ball, so the mere fact that we win conference and go deep in the playoffs says a lot more than one of the biggest schools in the state and especially region NOT having success that numbers indicate they SHOULD have. Next!
 
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I suppose by the logic of bragging about losing in a title game that I should brag about ALMOST going to state in 2012, when North COULD have been champs but WAS NOT. Just like West against Richmond, ALMOST gets you nothing.
 
Wow. Now we are going back almost 30 years to point out a loss in a state championship game.

My response was only to the comment that losing ND would be an upgrade to the CPC. I'm sure CPC4Life is glad to see them go, because the Black Knights have not been kind to the Titans lately.
 
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North Davidson fans won't mention losing 6 in a row to WF before there lil' 5 of 6 run.

It's been a luxury to save players from injury during the cupcake season while playing East Davidson, West Davidson, Central Davidson, Lexington, Asheboro etc....just play one half and rest.... ND Would never schedule tough out of conference Charlotte teams or East Forsyth(25 min. away....get to play West Forsyth at the end of year when they are beat up.... when Players like Darion Slade are beat up from tough schedules and he was only 50% the past 3 years for that last game of the year & playoffs. That was a serious advantage ND had

Like I said, the CPC will be better without ND & Parkland and you guys can take your powerful lil team to the 2A message boards.

It's an upgrade adding "Forsyth County teams(Big Schools)" East Forsyth & Glenn added to the CPC 2017. It's going to be a better conference. Sorry I hurt your feelings. Just Facts: CPC=4A football
 
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CPC4LIFE, are your serious? Your argument is weak, it's also WRONG! We play the same conference schedule that you do. We don't play any 1A teams like WF. We play 2 Davidson Co teams a year and haven't played some of those other teams in years. We also play a Charlotte team out of conference that just beat the defending 4A state champs on a neutral field. Please get your facts right before spouting off, really not a good look for you or the school you rep!
 
North Davidson fans won't mention losing 6 in a row to WF before there lil' 5 of 6 run.

It's been a luxury to save players from injury during the cupcake season while playing East Davidson, West Davidson, Central Davidson, Lexington, Asheboro etc....just play one half and rest.... ND Would never schedule tough out of conference Charlotte teams or East Forsyth(25 min. away....get to play West Forsyth at the end of year when they are beat up.... when Players like Darion Slade are beat up from tough schedules and he was only 50% the past 3 years for that last game of the year & playoffs. That was a serious advantage ND had

Like I said, the CPC will be better without ND & Parkland and you guys can take your powerful lil team to the 2A message boards.

It's an upgrade adding "Forsyth County teams(Big Schools)" East Forsyth & Glenn added to the CPC 2017. It's going to be a better conference. Sorry I hurt your feelings. Just Facts: CPC=4A football

Scoreboard.
 
Dude, you are absolutely delusional. We used to plat east forsytb when I was in school and kicked the crap out of them. Also, the county teams got removed from our schedule for tougher opponents a few years ago, but you wouldn't know since you do no research. No hurt feelings here, just utter pity for your delusion. Also, when was the last time west beat a Charlotte school that mattered, hypocrite? Get out of here with your self-deluded nonsense and get some facts before you post.
 
Blackknightnut....you are mistaken about ND winning state champion in 1966. They won REGION champion that year along with other three region champions. You need to get your fact straight. In most of the 60's, they did not have state champions. They played region champions and that is it. In fact, ND did not really win ANY state champion. They tied with Shelby in WNCHSAA. That is basically Western schools. I am sure ND has a rich history of winning seasons. There is no doubt about that but the fact that ND has NOT been in State Final at all while others have. I think it will be awakeing when you guys move down to 2A and it will be just as tough to win State Champion. 30% of the high schools in NC will be in 2A and that would be VERY TOUGH.




1966
Region 1 Ahoskie 55 Clayton 7
Region 2 Stedman 21 Southern Wayne 20
Region 3 North Davidson 21 East Surry 7
Region 4 Sylva Webster 48 Elkin 27

1965
Region 1 Edenton 20 Ahoskie 6
Region 2 Whiteville 19 Burgaw 13
Region 3 Siler City 23 South Stanly 6
Region 4 Surry Central 13 North Davidson 7

WNCHSAA

North Davidson 21 Shelby 21
 
North gives bigger, more talented schools headaches while west gets slaughtered every year by bigger more talented schools... Fact. I'll say it again, west is the most overrated program every year, regardless of classification. Now keep hyping up all your future college all stars that can't seem to win a game that matters for the development of your program. You SHOULD beat us, but can't quite seem to beat a school with far less students and open enrollment. Lawyered.
 
Yep, and seeing as how regional titles were as far as you could go, it counts. As does the wnchsaa title. It is just as legit a title as the nchsaa in the same period, so it counts. Its still more than anything west has ever won, get over it.
 
Shelby counts 75 do they not? And it is recognized as one of their official titles, so we have just as much a claim.
 
Again, I don't care what your nitpick is mactaz. North has won titles, it's in the record book. West has zero. Done.
 
Blackknightnut.... You must not care for WF eh? As of right now, West Forsyth is leading the series over North Davidson . WF won 11 while ND won 8 games while WF won 7 games. In fact, longest winning streak goes to WF, they beat ND five in a row. WF also had won four in a row a good while back. Now ND has upper hand in last 6 years, they won 5 while WF winning just one and that one was in 2013 (17-14).

It is quite interesting that ND do have good football history but not a great one. They went in playoff 17 times since 1990. They missed playoff six times and that won't happen now days due to split playoff in each classification. ND only went to Region Final once and it was a great year for ND. They went 14-1 and only loss was to Porter Ridge by a TD. ND went to third round once and that was last year.

17 times in playoff since 1990
got in first round playoff and lost 9 times
went as far to second round playoff and lost 6 times
went as far to third round playoff once
Region Final playoff once
State final none

It seems that ND has hard time getting out of first round playoff but in past four years, they are getting past first round though. Let see what they can do this year. I just merely point out that I believe that WF does has upper hand but not lately. Most of us usually just remember past few years.
 
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